It will take a miracle for me to find "Miss Right"

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Maybe God is not in a way saying to you either of those, but instead -Open your eyes! Get to looking! Have confidence! Get ready for the lady of your dreams!

I doubt He is saying that. We talk every day and He knows my eyes are open, I'm looking, I'm confident, and I'm ready. :smile: What I lack is prospects. Everyone I know is married or not a good match.
 
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I doubt He is saying that. We talk every day and He knows my eyes are open, I'm looking, I'm confident, and I'm ready. :smile: What I lack is prospects. Everyone I know is married or not a good match.
What makes them not a good match?
 
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What makes them not a good match?

It could be one of the things I mentioned in my opening post, or it might be something else. A person can be great as a person, but not a good match for someone.

I've only visited some large churches, but I still don't understand why you can see some ladies at yours, then not meet them for months. Why don't you go sit near them so you can be more likely to have an opportunity to chat and let them know you find them interesting?

You can only sit near them if they don't already have a crowd they sit with every week. :wink: You can only talk to them once they've broken away from that crowd, assuming they do so before they get to their car. Plus, you can only stand around doing nothing for so long before you start looking like a weirdo. haha And I don't know how long you normally wait before you ask someone out, but I try to at least let them know I exist and give them an opportunity to interact with me a couple of times. I'm just not the type of guy who is going to walk up to group of people talking after church and ask a woman out who doesn't have any idea who I am. :grinning: There was a woman at church I was somewhat interested in and it took a lonnng time before I had a chance to ask her out (and she immediately said yes). She's a very nice person, but we ended up not being a good match for a couple of reasons. And that's fine because that is exactly what dating is supposed to find out, whether two people are a good match. But look how long it took to find that out! Months!

mingle after the church service
It's tough to mingle when you're alone and they aren't. haha Big churches can be amazingly impersonal places. The only way to meet people, really, is to join home Bible studies (I've been in two. Both are full of married people) or volunteer to help with something at church (I've done that...and met a bunch of men. haha). Still, I think volunteering is my best option for meeting people and I do intend to continue to do so.

I appreciate your suggestions, but what I lack isn't confidence or "openers", it's opportunities and prospects. :wink:
 
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I'm pretty discouraged at the moment.

Consider all the variables :


- I have to meet her. I go to a big church and you can go there for years without meeting 3/4 of the people. And even if I see a woman at church I am interested in meeting, it can take months to be in a situation where that meeting isn't weird and ham-fisted. Most of the time they are surrounded by people from the moment they enter church until the moment they are getting in their car.


Thoughts?
It could be one of the things I mentioned in my opening post, or it might be something else. A person can be great as a person, but not a good match for someone.



You can only sit near them if they don't already have a crowd they sit with every week. :wink: You can only talk to them once they've broken away from that crowd, assuming they do so before they get to their car. Plus, you can only stand around doing nothing for so long before you start looking like a weirdo. haha And I don't know how long you normally wait before you ask someone out, but I try to at least let them know I exist and give them an opportunity to interact with me a couple of times. I'm just not the type of guy who is going to walk up to group of people talking after church and ask a woman out who doesn't have any idea who I am. :grinning: There was a woman at church I was somewhat interested in and it took a lonnng time before I had a chance to ask her out (and she immediately said yes). She's a very nice person, but we ended up not being a good match for a couple of reasons. And that's fine because that is exactly what dating is supposed to find out, whether two people are a good match. But look how long it took to find that out! Months!

If you go to a large church you can not tell me that all single women are always in large groups. Focus on the women who are in small groups or alone. They exist.

If you are interested in a woman who is in a large group, find out what is their commonality and join/visit that (do they all go to the same small group, bible study class, etc). You can do this by starting a conversation with one of the men in the group. (However, if you don't already know this, I am wondering why you have picked someone...just based on their looks since you obviously don't have any other way of knowing who she is or if she is even a Christian).
 
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If you go to a large church you can not tell me that all single women are always in large groups. Focus on the women who are in small groups or alone. They exist.

I think you're trying to be helpful, but I can't help but laugh that, based on everything I've written, you have still come away with the idea that I wouldn't do that if I saw someone I was interested in who was alone. I'm not shy.

If you are interested in a woman who is in a large group, find out what is their commonality

I'm sure their commonality is that they know one another and always sit together...The woman I went on a date with told me that was the situation in her case.

do they all go to the same small group, bible study class, etc).

How could I know that if I don't have the opportunity to talk to her? If I do have the opportunity to talk to her, my problem is solved without knowing how they all know each other. And it's no less weird to walk up to one of the men and say, "So! How do you all know each other?!"
One bothersome thing about my church other than that it is very hard to meet people is that there are several small groups that are for women only. I have to wonder if a lot of the single women go to them, since I have met the members of three regular (not women only) small groups and it was all married couples except for one single woman.

However, if you don't already know this, I am wondering why you have picked someone...just based on their looks since you obviously don't have any other way of knowing who she is or if she is even a Christian.

Yes, I "pick" someone I am interested in based on whether I am attracted to her. That's not exactly a revolutionary concept. As for whether I know she is a Christian, I can only draw that conclusion based on my observations of her behavior, regular church attendance, etc. ....since I haven't met her yet.
 
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I'm sure their commonality is that they know one another and always sit together...The woman I went on a date with told me that was the situation in her case.

How did you meet this woman to go on a date with? I actually find that a lot of groups that gather together don't see each other every day and often it is something within the church that groups them together.

And it's no less weird to walk up to one of the men and say, "So! How do you all know each other?!"

Why is this weird?

Stick out your hand and say: "Hi, my name is John. I have been trying to find new places to "plug into" here at church and make more Christian friends. Your group seems to be ... (fun, have a lot of comradery, ... ) Is there a Bible study or group that you all belong to?"

It is no different than how people who don't know each other interact in business and new activities...at least if they want to make friends. You simply introduce yourself.
 
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1. People online make snap judgments based on variables that don't carry as much weight if they were initially encountering a person face to face. For instance, if I meet a woman in person, she judges her level of interest based on whether she thinks I'm attractive, funny, intelligent, and whether we have chemistry. If a woman encounters me through my profile online, on the other hand, she focuses first on my age and she makes assumptions about me based on that age ("A 54-year-old is ___"); She scrutinizes my pictures (if they are just selfies, she might assume I have no friends. If they are pictures of me with a bunch of other people, she might assume I'm a party animal. :grinning: AND she assumes I probably don't look like my pictures. I gathered this information from women on CM's old message board, by the way); She might read waaaay more than I intended into some offhand comment in my profile.
So, the "me" that women see in my dating profile is not me at all.

That's more due to the way that online dating operates rather than what women (or men) do. Users are forced to make an assessment of the person based on what's in their profile. So there's always going to be the possibility that you pass on someone because their profile doesn't resonate with you even though you might have hit it off with them in real life. It's an inherent drawback in online dating for which I don't think there's a solution.
 
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How did you meet this woman to go on a date with?

When opportunities presented themselves, I'd smile and say things in passing to her when I'd see her in the hall or when I'd walk past her when she was seated and not talking to the people around her. This led to a sort of friendly familiarity. That led to us talking as we walked to our cars, which led to me asking her if she wanted to grab some coffee, which led to her saying yes.

Why is this weird?

Stick out your hand and say: "Hi, my name is John. I have been trying to find new places to "plug into" here at church and make more Christian friends. Your group seems to be ... (fun, have a lot of comradery, ... ) Is there a Bible study or group that you all belong to?" It is no different than how people who don't know each other interact in business and new activities...at least if they want to make friends. You simply introduce yourself.

Again, using the example of the woman I asked out, it's a group of people (all in their 60s except her) who are all seated together and talking to one another (and all are married except her). There was no opportunity to inject myself in a natural way.

And another example I can think of is a woman who always comes with another couple, usually late, and they sit in the middle (again, of a big church). Finding an opportunity to speak to her was tougher than finding an opportunity to speak to the previous woman. It eventually happened one morning when she was running late and we were both in the parking lot at the same time. I made small talk to her, but didn't find her friendly or personable at all and immediately lost all interest. One thing both women have in common, I discovered, is that they are both fairly recent widows. That may be why the second woman was unfriendly. I can only imagine the difficulties widowhood brings when it comes to being ready to date. The first lady managed to be very nice about it, while the second woman gave me a small case of frostbite. And, again, I am not criticizing her for it.

I'm still trying to get the scene of ladies all around 50 or so/your age choice/that sit together for church as large groups. When I see the huge churches on TV, I certainly don't observe anything like that. It is mostly couples and families sitting together.

It is mostly couples and families sitting together at my church, too. And often when a woman is sitting alone and I start to wonder if she is single, I catch the glint off a wedding ring or her husband comes to join her later. This has happened over and over. Single women should have to wear headbands or clothes that are a certain color for easy identification. :smile:

I can't emphasize enough that I am not shy. If there is a woman I am attracted to and I have an opportunity to meet her in a non-weird way, I'll walk up and meet her. That is rarely the case in the context of my church's services. I've also tried home studies and virtually everyone is married. I also signed up for a couple of classes (Financial Peace and a Creation Science course) and everyone was married. So, I stand by what I said in my opening post. :wink:
 
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What kind of workouts do you do?
Haha! That's an odd question in this context. But the answer is that I lift weights.

Where are some cool places that you want to travel with her?
Lots of places, both foreign and domestic. :wink:

Do you wear shirts with those locations named on them?
No, and especially not to church. haha

I get that these are great ice breaker topics, but until I can find a woman I'm interested in and can engage her in conversation, these topics won't come up. I'm really not struggling to find something to say to a woman. I'm struggling to find a Christian woman I'm interested in and, if I find her at church, I'm struggling to have the opportunity to talk to her. Once I find a prospect and can speak to her, I'll be fine. It's been 35 years since I was intimidated by a woman. When I was a teenager, they were this terrifying alien breed. I've dated a lot of them since then and raised daughters. They don't scare me. haha :wink:
 
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When opportunities presented themselves, I'd smile and say things in passing to her when I'd see her in the hall or when I'd walk past her when she was seated and not talking to the people around her. This led to a sort of friendly familiarity. That led to us talking as we walked to our cars, which led to me asking her if she wanted to grab some coffee, which led to her saying yes.



Again, using the example of the woman I asked out, it's a group of people (all in their 60s except her) who are all seated together and talking to one another (and all are married except her). There was no opportunity to inject myself in a natural way.

And another example I can think of is a woman who always comes with another couple, usually late, and they sit in the middle (again, of a big church). Finding an opportunity to speak to her was tougher than finding an opportunity to speak to the previous woman. It eventually happened one morning when she was running late and we were both in the parking lot at the same time. I made small talk to her, but didn't find her friendly or personable at all and immediately lost all interest. One thing both women have in common, I discovered, is that they are both fairly recent widows. That may be why the second woman was unfriendly. I can only imagine the difficulties widowhood brings when it comes to being ready to date. The first lady managed to be very nice about it, while the second woman gave me a small case of frostbite. And, again, I am not criticizing her for it.



It is mostly couples and families sitting together at my church, too. And often when a woman is sitting alone and I start to wonder if she is single, I catch the glint off a wedding ring or her husband comes to join her later. This has happened over and over. Single women should have to wear headbands or clothes that are a certain color for easy identification. :smile:

I can't emphasize enough that I am not shy. If there is a woman I am attracted to and I have an opportunity to meet her in a non-weird way, I'll walk up and meet her. That is rarely the case in the context of my church's services. I've also tried home studies and virtually everyone is married. I also signed up for a couple of classes (Financial Peace and a Creation Science course) and everyone was married. So, I stand by what I said in my opening post. :wink:

As far as single women wearing easy identification is concerned. In the Hawaiian culture,when a woman wears a flower on here right ear,opposite your left eye,that means she is single.When a woman wears a flower on her left ear,opposite your right eye,that means tha she is married and/or taken.
 
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As far as single women wearing easy identification is concerned. In the Hawaiian culture,when a woman wears a flower on here right ear,opposite your left eye,that means she is single.When a woman wears a flower on her left ear,opposite your right eye,that means tha she is married and/or taken.

I wish women did the same in the continental states! A flower on the side of the head is a lot easier to see than a ring on a hand, especially at a distance! :grinning:
 
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Do you go jogging every morning or run a track, belong to a club, the interests you have that she can also use to keep healthy- thought you might share here with us.
I don't really do cardio anymore, since my heart rate gets high enough just by lifting weights. The closest I get to cardio is taking my dog for a walk.
I belong to a big, locally-popular gym.
I've never been a swimmer, but would like to get into that at some point. It's a great workout.

The shirts were not for church, just to see how strong your dreams might be. For instance, if you go play miniature golf, do you wear a Hawaii shirt?
I don't own a Hawaiian shirt. I really can't imagine me wearing one. :grinning: The places I'd like to visit that require a plane ride are mostly in Western Europe. Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I'd also like to return to the Netherlands. I've been twice for work, but I'd like to visit with "Miss Right."

Me, I'm a batons twirler and hula hooper/have 14 of them, like to skate, swim, play tennis, shoot baskets, toss a Frisbee, and more. Tried lifting weights some when my brother did as a teen, but it was never for me.
As long as a person is doing something to keep active, that's what matters. Those habits will help with mobility in the decades to come. :wink:
 
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