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It is a bodily felling, I know, I have been filled with the spirit many times, every time, its a bodily experience. You fell complete love and pureness and truth. And you whole body is mingled with a electric charge not of this world.

Your telling born again Christians who has been filled with the spirit something other then what we know and have felt.
If you had read post #23, you would know I have had that sensation and still do after 45 years. My point is that it is not required as God wants us to walk by faith in His Word. The feelings 'may' follow..
 
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Are we not suppose to feel agape or phileo either?
Did I say anything of the sort?
Last time, feelings MAY come as a result of faith. They are not required. There is nothing in Scripture that says, "Unless you feel the Holy Spirit you will not be saved".
 
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Blaspheming the Spirit.

In a growing section of the evangelical Christian community, the pursuit of a sensual experience of God has led to a kind of blasphemy against the Spirit. In an effort to “experience God,” many believers today are chasing after tingles, warm sensations, and electrical pulses that run over and through them. They cheer at fog (aka “glory clouds”) coming out of air vents, and gasp at gold dust and feathers falling from above. “This is the Spirit of God!” they say. But when they are pressed to explain how they know this, the answer is ultimately “I just know! And if you knew the Spirit like I do, you would, too!” Thus, without good grounds, believers assign to the Holy Spirit experiences and actions to which they cannot adequately connect him. It may well be that he is not involved at all in the things they are feeling and experiencing and so to say that he is amounts to lying about the Spirit which is tantamount to blasphemy.

The apostle James warned of the “wisdom that is not from above” (James 3:15), describing it, among other things, as “sensual,” that is, oriented on what appeals to our physical senses and our emotions. We are fundamentally sensual creatures, interacting with reality in large part through our physical senses. When we are confronted with interacting with God, who is a Spirit and not accessible to our senses like the material reality in which we constantly move, we may begin to try to force an experience of Him that conforms to our natural sensuality. But when we do this, we corrupt and diminish the spiritual nature of our fellowship with God and open ourselves to demonic deception. So it is we are commanded in Scripture:

John 4:23-24 (NKJV)
23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father
in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
24 God
is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

In the record of Scripture, when God “showed up” He did not resort to fog, feathers and gold dust; He did not confine Himself to trivial things like giving people shivers, and tingles, and warm oozies; He did not make them laugh like maniacs, or writhe about in ecstatic prostration. No, when God manifested Himself, He empowered one man to kill a thousand with the jaw-bone of an ass, the wicked were swallowed alive by the earth, cities were destroyed by heavenly fire, seas were parted, mountain tops were clouded in thunder and lightning, and the dead were raised to life! How is it, then, that the expectations of modern believers of God have grown so small? How is it that so many have settled for a momentary shiver instead of fire from heaven? How is that believers enthuse over gold dust from air vents instead of the conviction of the Holy Spirit driving them to their knees in deep and full confession of, and repentance from, their sins? How is it that when a person claims God is manifesting Himself in these trivial ways, so many are eager to believe it without skepticism? This is where a sensual pursuit of God leads people: Grasping for anything that might provide a sensual experience of God, however silly and trite.

Matthew 12:38-39 (NKJV)
38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You."
39 But He (Jesus) answered and said to them, "
An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.


Satan is the Great Counterfeiter. At every turn he is looking to deceive believers with false facsimiles of God's truth, presence and power. He comes to us as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14), offering us half or twisted truths, and/or outright lies made to look like “good sense.” If we aren't “sober and vigilant,” as Scripture warns us to be (1 Peter 5:8), we will soon fall prey to his deceptions. So, it is that we must have more than “I just know!” as a basis for our claims that the Spirit is at work. If we say, “These shivers are the Holy Spirit!” we must be able to prove it; if we say, “This healing is by the Spirit's will and power!” we must be able to show that it really is; if we say, “This vision is from the Spirit!” we had better be able to fully justify our claim. When believers get in the habit of making unfounded, unproved and unprovable claims about the work of the Spirit, they run the very great risk of falling under false beliefs and the destructive manipulations of the devil.
 
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How could the Apostles have received the Holy Spirit with flaming tongues of fire, spoke supernaturally in other tongues, received impressions from the Holy Spirit through prayer, unleash the power of God to heal the lame, cast out devils, see visions, and receive conviction from the Spirit... without them "feeling" anything???

I'm of the Pentecostal flavor of Christianity. I can attest to feeling tingling (the electricity like charge people are talking about), deep emotional impressions and leadings, even the sense of the power of God being released through prayer.

Now, I know this isn't necessarily the topic of this thread... but it might have some bearing. In my studies and experience with the Holy Spirit I've actually been heavily criticized by my peers in ministry. Why? Because in discussing prayer cloths, miracles, sanctification, casting out demons, dreams, and visions... I've discovered what I was calling the "power of God". This "power" is a part of God's nature, and is activated and experienced through faith. By just studying the Scripture, I came to a conclusion that there is a "power" of God that we can experience, much like the heat and light we can experience that comes from the Sun. As I dug deeper I discovered the Orthodox teachings of God's "energies". I thought it was interesting how studying Scripture could lead an ol' Pentecostal boy like me to an Orthodox understanding of something. lol
A surprising amount of my Pentecostal background helped lead me to Orthodoxy. Certainly much is different, but there are quite a few elements that carried over. That said, we shouldn’t focus on obtaining spiritual gifts or on the experience of these gifts, but rather should focus on our spiritual repentance and growth. We constantly need to seek to follow God and become more like Him.

As St Gregory Palamas (who is a big influence on the teachings regarding God’s energies) said
We who are in Christ's ranks should long for the world above. Let our desire be directed towards the kingdom He promised us. Let us shun enjoyments which drag down our soul, fear the hell-fire with which pleasure-lovers are threatened, flee self-indulgence, drunkenness, fornication, prodigality, greed, injustice, vanity, pride, hatred, anger and inhumanity. These are the things which give the evil one power, alas, over ourselves and the world. We should escape from the world's deception and from its prince, and show through our good works that we are the work of God's good hands. By so doing, we shall make best use of the present, and enjoy the promised eternal benefits when the time comes.

May we all attain to these by the grace and love for mankind of Our Lord Jesus Christ, to Whom belongs glory together with the Father and the Holy Spirit unto the ages of ages. Amen.

I don’t say this to imply that you have spiritual pride, as I don’t know you :) I just say this as a reminder for us all as we seek God. It is especially important to remember in the context of sanctification (to use the western terminology) or theosis (Eastern terminology).
 
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Blaspheming the Spirit.

In a growing section of the evangelical Christian community, the pursuit of a sensual experience of God has led to a kind of blasphemy against the Spirit. In an effort to “experience God,” many believers today are chasing after tingles, warm sensations, and electrical pulses that run over and through them. They cheer at fog (aka “glory clouds”) coming out of air vents, and gasp at gold dust and feathers falling from above. “This is the Spirit of God!” they say. But when they are pressed to explain how they know this, the answer is ultimately “I just know! And if you knew the Spirit like I do, you would, too!” Thus, without good grounds, believers assign to the Holy Spirit experiences and actions to which they cannot adequately connect him. It may well be that he is not involved at all in the things they are feeling and experiencing and so to say that he is amounts to lying about the Spirit which is tantamount to blasphemy.

The apostle James warned of the “wisdom that is not from above” (James 3:15), describing it, among other things, as “sensual,” that is, oriented on what appeals to our physical senses and our emotions. We are fundamentally sensual creatures, interacting with reality in large part through our physical senses. When we are confronted with interacting with God, who is a Spirit and not accessible to our senses like the material reality in which we constantly move, we may begin to try to force an experience of Him that conforms to our natural sensuality. But when we do this, we corrupt and diminish the spiritual nature of our fellowship with God and open ourselves to demonic deception. So it is we are commanded in Scripture:

John 4:23-24 (NKJV)
23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father
in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
24 God
is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

In the record of Scripture, when God “showed up” He did not resort to fog, feathers and gold dust; He did not confine Himself to trivial things like giving people shivers, and tingles, and warm oozies; He did not make them laugh like maniacs, or writhe about in ecstatic prostration. No, when God manifested Himself, He empowered one man to kill a thousand with the jaw-bone of an ass, the wicked were swallowed alive by the earth, cities were destroyed by heavenly fire, seas were parted, mountain tops were clouded in thunder and lightning, and the dead were raised to life! How is it, then, that the expectations of modern believers of God have grown so small? How is it that so many have settled for a momentary shiver instead of fire from heaven? How is that believers enthuse over gold dust from air vents instead of the conviction of the Holy Spirit driving them to their knees in deep and full confession of, and repentance from, their sins? How is it that when a person claims God is manifesting Himself in these trivial ways, so many are eager to believe it without skepticism? This is where a sensual pursuit of God leads people: Grasping for anything that might provide a sensual experience of God, however silly and trite.

Matthew 12:38-39 (NKJV)
38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You."
39 But He (Jesus) answered and said to them, "
An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.


Satan is the Great Counterfeiter. At every turn he is looking to deceive believers with false facsimiles of God's truth, presence and power. He comes to us as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14), offering us half or twisted truths, and/or outright lies made to look like “good sense.” If we aren't “sober and vigilant,” as Scripture warns us to be (1 Peter 5:8), we will soon fall prey to his deceptions. So, it is that we must have more than “I just know!” as a basis for our claims that the Spirit is at work. If we say, “These shivers are the Holy Spirit!” we must be able to prove it; if we say, “This healing is by the Spirit's will and power!” we must be able to show that it really is; if we say, “This vision is from the Spirit!” we had better be able to fully justify our claim. When believers get in the habit of making unfounded, unproved and unprovable claims about the work of the Spirit, they run the very great risk of falling under false beliefs and the destructive manipulations of the devil.

I never seek the felling's, never look for it nor never ask for it, its a free gift of love from God.

You wrote a book to explain, I wrote one sentence.
 
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I never seek the felling's, never look for it nor never ask for it, its a free gift of love from God.

You wrote a book to explain, I wrote one sentence.

Whatever feeling you might have had, it wasn't of God. And, apart from saying, "I just know it was," you can't supply any concrete evidence that what you felt was the Holy Spirit. How's this for a more concise reply?

By the way, a shorter statement is not always better than a longer one.
 
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Whatever feeling you might have had, it wasn't of God. And, apart from saying, "I just know it was," you can't supply any concrete evidence that what you felt was the Holy Spirit. How's this for a more concise reply?

By the way, a shorter statement is not always better than a longer one.

The devil does not love you nor does a demon give you felling's of love and truth.
The devil does not convert you and make you a new person in Jesus, Only God sends his own to his son, and when I was baptised I was filled with the holt spirit and it converted me into a new creature that follows Jesus every word.

And guess what?

I felt love and truth and conviction and a warm electrical charge all over my body.

Dont tell me its not God.
 
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Is there a feeling associated with having the Holy Spirit inside of you? I mean a literally feeling in your body, like one you would get after drinking alcohol.
Not sure any of ways the Holy Spirit manifests his power on, in or through an individual is describable or comparable to anything in this world. Certainly not a drug. Has to be experienced.
 
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Think of it like this. When you've had something fulfilling happen in your life, it brings many things with it. Jesus Christ brings the ultimate fulfilment and the things you would fill for a moment, is a billion times that when we are made completed by being reconciled to Father through Jesus. Many feelings come from this. Just like when you get into a new relationship, so many feelings burst from you stemming from the state of peace that that fulfillment(although it's only temporary until we recieve the ultimate fulfilment of Salvation) from your heart, mind and soul. The same happens when we are saved but it's a supernatural communion with our Spiritual Father the Creator Yahweh that is permanent and will never run dry. The closer we are to the Father and the more mature we become, there is more "spiritual" feelings that come about as a result of Father showing His Love, Grace, Mercy, provision, and everything else that comes from him. Think if a child with their parents. Emotions and feelings come from children in response to their parents, you wouldn't tell a parent that the feelings they have for their child and vise versa, that those feelings have nothing to do with the love they have for each other? Certainly not. Just enjoy The Lord and express yourselves to him. Who cares what legalistic wants to steal your joy of expressing your love for the God that saved you. Let's enjoy our Salvation and grow in that so that we can shine our lights brighter and bring the Lost to what is different, a true relationship with the Experiental God of all Creation that will give your hearts desires of peace, joy and love, the Land flowing with milk and Honey. It's a death march, but is well worth it.
 
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Did I say anything of the sort?
Last time, feelings MAY come as a result of faith. They are not required. There is nothing in Scripture that says, "Unless you feel the Holy Spirit you will not be saved".
I agree and would add..
The word love (all Greek forms) are typically used as a verb. Love is something we are to do... if you love me you will keep my commandments. Sound familiar? This is partly the reason our society has such a high rate of divorce today. That sweet, gooey feeling we typically associate with love is not love, it's a feeling and it fades with time. Often before the honeymoon is over. Attempting to use our feelings as a yardstick of righteousness is a very dangerous thing to do. Our feelings can easily fool us. The book Proverbs provides much insight into the handicapped nature of our humanity.
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Why would God give us emotions and feelings if they are not in any way associated with our worship of Him. Man is created with flesh, soul and spirit. All three are drawn to God in some way as we worship our Father. We experience joy, peace and happiness. As a result, some may bow down in awe of God, while others laugh or wail. This has happened to me in private esp during trials when I just pour out my heart to God in prayer.
That being said, am well aware that I shouldn't base my assurance of the Holyspirit presence on emotions. I believe this is how some movements have led Christians astray and given room to demonic encounters.

Paul gives an illustration in Ephesians 5:18 He says we should be filled with the Holy Spirit counter to being drunk with wine. Drunkenness leads to clumsiness, and all emotions/actions are dictated by the intoxicant's control. In the same way, a fullness of the Holy Spirit means we are led and controlled by Him in us. This spills over to our emotions as well in experessions of joy, or peace etc.
 
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I only feel him when I am in prayer and only sometimes. I also strongly felt him when I got water baptized, and when I first got saved (baptized by the holy spirit). But we shouldn't rely and trust our feelings which is why God doesn't always give us it he doesn't want us to get addicted to the feeling but simply walk by faith and truth. If you don't feel anything it does not mean you don't have the holy spirit. But yeah sometimes when I ask during prayer for him to speak to me or I meditate on scripture, I can feel the holy spirit if God wants me to.
 
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I agree and would add..
The word love (all Greek forms) are typically used as a verb. Love is something we are to do... if you love me you will keep my commandments. Sound familiar? This is partly the reason our society has such a high rate of divorce today. That sweet, gooey feeling we typically associate with love is not love, it's a feeling and it fades with time. Often before the honeymoon is over. Attempting to use our feelings as a yardstick of righteousness is a very dangerous thing to do. Our feelings can easily fool us. The book Proverbs provides much insight into the handicapped nature of our humanity.
In Him
Feelings are part of us, they serve some purpose. What is it?
 
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Is there a feeling associated with having the Holy Spirit inside of you? I mean a literally feeling in your body, like one you would get after drinking alcohol.

Acts 2
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

On the day of Pentecost Peter stands up in the middle of town and yells "Everybody listen to me!" Then he accuses them all of murder. This is Peter, the same flake who was unhinged because a maid recognized him just 50 days before. The one unmistakable symptom of being born again is this tremendously strengthened personality, the same thing that atheists find so annoying.
 
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