Will near death experience accounts cause Christianity to find common ground with other religions?

Will near death experience accounts tend to unite Christianity and other religions?

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I am looking forward to the day of the upsidedown world :)

I,m reckonimg it will be that those who are on top now,
lining their pockets by robbing and oppressing the poor,

will be on the bottom then.

When the Messiah comes he will rule with justice and fairness.

May he come soon.

But not too soon, gotta get the engine fixed in the boat first,

HAHA, just kidding.

Who knows, I may be allowed to set up a boatrepair buisness, that would be something. :)


There is a fascinating prediction that land within a hundred miles of cities in the USA will skyrocket in value for a number of reasons. So certainly....... land on water will be especially desirable.

"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.

Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and

nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it

all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by

people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of

becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.

Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to

all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).
 
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There is a fascinating prediction that land within a hundred miles of cities in the USA will skyrocket in value for a number of reasons. So certainly....... land on water will be especially desirable.

America is a big, big big country,

I know so little about it, been there once, long time ago,
a cargo of white stuff from, Bremen.

Saw so little, but noticed they had tons of radio stations,
it was when doo-wap was the thing.

So it may be a great place but I do not feel that attracted,
haha.
 
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America is a big, big big country,

I know so little about it, been there once, long time ago,
a cargo of white stuff from, Bremen.

Saw so little, but noticed they had tons of radio stations,
it was when doo-wap was the thing.

So it may be a great place but I do not feel that attracted,
haha.

So do you mind if I ask if you are living in Sweden?

People in Sweden and people in Canada both try to be good neighbours to people in The Netherlands.
 
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So do you mind if I ask if you are living in Sweden?

People in Sweden and people in Canada both try to be good neighbours to people in The Netherlands.

Yes, here I am sitting on the edge of the pot after being shanghaeid from Norway.

A horrible story.

Have not noticed much about the Dutch.

Strange you ask.
 
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Yes, here I am sitting on the edge of the pot after being shanghaeid from Norway.

A horrible story.

Have not noticed much about the Dutch.

Strange you ask.

I am referring to a question on Physics and Mathematics and the behaviour patterns of a liquid within a massive container that is relevant to both Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, the State of Maine...... and of course... The Netherlands......

If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...
... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?

This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters.

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I am referring to a question on Physics and Mathematics and the behaviour patterns of a liquid within a massive container that is relevant to both Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, the State of Maine...... and of course... The Netherlands......

If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...
... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?

This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters.

tidalmap.jpg

Jersey in the channel islands has high tides too,
last spring tide 21st Feb, 11.97m, 39,3 feet.

Have wondered why there are no sea turbines to generate power, tides twice a day.

Don,t know what would happen.

But there is a promise; Genesis 9:11.
 
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Jersey in the channel islands has high tides too,
last spring tide 21st Feb, 11.97m, 39,3 feet.

Have wondered why there are no sea turbines to generate power, tides twice a day.

Don,t know what would happen.

But there is a promise; Genesis 9:11.

Interesting.... I think that Israel has already developed the technology that will be used to address both the coming financial crisis as the Derivatives market goes through a correction........ but basically humanity has got to think and act on a much more grand scale.

With 117 trillion USA petrodollars in the derivatives market by 2014..... I think it is time for a meta- project or two or three that will turn things around.

Cheap Water from the World’s Largest Modern Seawater Desalination Plant

One trillion dollars US would build 2000 plants of this size.....
and once they were running at full capacity could desalinate
627,000 x 2000 = 1,254,000,000 cubic meters of ocean water daily!

This actually could turn out to be A LOT LESS expensive than building
dams and levees and massive pumping stations in cities and towns that
are vulnerable to rising ocean levels.

Isaiah 35:

35 The wilderness and the dry land shall be glad; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.

2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing; the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon: they shall see the glory of Jehovah, the excellency of our God.

3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.

4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come [with] vengeance, [with] the recompense of God; he will come and save you.

5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.

6 Then shall the lame man leap as a hart, and the tongue of the dumb shall sing; for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

7 And the glowing sand shall become a pool, and the thirsty ground springs of water: in the habitation of jackals, where they lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.

Up until now the amount of H2O being added to the central region of Antarctica has saved our coastal communities.

At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water
. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie!" (Gershom Gale, Expanded Discussion on HAB Theory).
 
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Interesting.... I think that Israel has already developed the technology that will be used to address both the coming financial crisis as the Derivatives market goes through a correction........ but basically humanity has got to think and act on a much more grand scale.

With 117 trillion USA petrodollars in the derivatives market by 2014..... I think it is time for a meta- project or two or three that will turn things around.

Cheap Water from the World’s Largest Modern Seawater Desalination Plant

One trillion dollars US would build 2000 plants of this size.....
and once they were running at full capacity could desalinate
627,000 x 2000 = 1,254,000,000 cubic meters of ocean water daily!

This actually could turn out to be A LOT LESS expensive than building
dams and levees and massive pumping stations in cities and towns that
are vulnerable to rising ocean levels.

Isaiah 35:

35 The wilderness and the dry land shall be glad; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.

2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing; the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon: they shall see the glory of Jehovah, the excellency of our God.

3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.

4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come [with] vengeance, [with] the recompense of God; he will come and save you.

5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.

6 Then shall the lame man leap as a hart, and the tongue of the dumb shall sing; for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

7 And the glowing sand shall become a pool, and the thirsty ground springs of water: in the habitation of jackals, where they lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.

Up until now the amount of H2O being added to the central region of Antarctica has saved our coastal communities.


Around 7 billion + persons all containing 50-65% water.

Just something I came to think of remembering something someone said once,
that there is only a decided amount of water,
in the clouds and the sea.

IDK

That must include underground streams too.


"What is man that You think of Him?"

A drop in the bucket?
:)
 
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Around 7 billion + persons all containing 50-65% water.

Just something I came to think of remembering something someone said once,
that there is only a decided amount of water,
in the clouds and the sea.

IDK

That must include underground streams too.


"What is man that You think of Him?"

A drop in the bucket?
:)

When the soldier stack a spear into his side there came out blood and water.

Maybe for another thread.
 
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When the soldier stack a spear into his side there came out blood and water.

Maybe for another thread.


Here is an interesting chapter from the Book of Adam and Eve that was preserved into our time period in Ethiopic Coptic, (if I remember correctly).... but I suspect the original language of this document was probably Hebrew but all the copies of this in Europe got burned.

Chapter 69
Twelfth apparition of Satan to Adam and Eve, while Adam was praying over the offering on the altar; when Satan beat him.

1 Then Satan, the hater of all good, envious of Adam and of his offering through which he found favor with God, hastened and took a sharp stone from among the sharp iron stones; appeared in the form of a man, and went and stood by Adam and Eve. 2 Adam was then offering on the altar, and had begun to pray, with his hands spread before God. 3 Then Satan hastened with the sharp iron stone he had with him, and with it pierced Adam on the right side, from which flowed blood and water, then Adam fell on the altar like a corpse. And Satan fled. 4 Then Eve came, and took Adam and placed him below the altar. And there she stayed, crying over him; while a stream of blood flowed from Adam's side over his offering. 5 But God looked at the death of Adam. He then sent His Word, and raised him up and said to him, "Fulfill your offering, for indeed, Adam, it is worth much, and there is no shortcoming in it." (The Book of Adam and Eve)
 
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So? I read that book too, at one time . Anne Rice wrote the forward. But Howard Storm never claimed to have a public revelation or to be a prophet.

True....... but he was shown a lot of things during his near death experience and I do believe that he recorded them as faithfully as he humanly could do and I have heard many interviews from him and he always seems to be exceptionally sincere and honest about the humbling that he took during his NDE.


He had a really good career at the time of his NDE.... he gave it up.... and went back to school to become a Theologian. His wife divorced him due to this decision and to the changes in the he thought and changed after his NDE.
 
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BTW, the Rev. Howard Storm is a retired minister in the United Church of Christ.
He said in one interview I saw that the book he wrote was edited a bit for general audiences, and he wanted to clarify that he only believed in Jesus, not any religion.

But I wouldn't really want to base my spiritual life on these accounts. Mostly because , as interesting as these accounts are, I think its difficult to really pull away from it anything particularly deep that functions in a way that religion does in peoples lives.

I read Anita Moorjani's book, Dying to be Me, also. It was also moving. She is a nominal Hindu who isn't religious. But I found the book's overall message something I couldn't really relate to. She had a profound experience, but I think its difficult to communicate that to other people, especially from a different culture

And Ms. Moorjani's account was something I struggled with alot. It was so confusing and rambling to read her book, even though I do understand something of Hinduism. Her experience seems to have given her a sense of self-respect she did not have before, in a culture that didn't seem to give much self-esteem. And she suggests her cancer was caused by absorbing negativity (?) which is a very questionable concept. Despite the fact it was a rambling book without a deep, coherent message, I'm glad her cancer went into remission and she found a sense of peace in her life, though.
 
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Here is an interesting chapter from the Book of Adam and Eve that was preserved into our time period in Ethiopic Coptic, (if I remember correctly).... but I suspect the original language of this document was probably Hebrew but all the copies of this in Europe got burned.

I don,t know if it was his left side or right side that was pierced by the spear, but there are thoughts that Jesus died of a broken heart,
as far as I know the heart is on the left side,
which would mean, according to some is why there came out both water and blood.

But I suspect there is much deeper meanings,
 
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I don,t know if it was his left side or right side that was pierced by the spear, but there are thoughts that Jesus died of a broken heart,
as far as I know the heart is on the left side,
which would mean, according to some is why there came out both water and blood.

But I suspect there is much deeper meanings,

Yes.....surely there must be a connection with.......

John 7:38 "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."
 
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Near death experiences are often debunked, as far as I know.

Yes........ but the religious officials at the time of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and Lazarus who he had resurrected after four days....... wanted to kill Lazarus........ and this could have been due to his ability to draw crowds as some near death experiencers are also doing in this time period?????

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43 And when he had thus spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

44 He that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with grave-clothes; and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

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10 But the chief priests took counsel that they might put Lazarus also to death; 11 because that by reason of him many of the Jews went away, and believed on Jesus.

Something of a common ground being found for various religions is being illustrated in the direction that this discussion is going in:

What about the Roman Catholic idea of Purgatory?
 
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