How would the position of no end of the world be classified?

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

So they are NOT at this time at rest then?

You said they were.

Which is it? you seem to be all over the map on this.

They would have to NOT be at rest at this moment and still suffering from their persecution at the hands of their persecutors RIGHT NOW if The Lord has not yet avenged them, if we read the passage LITERALLY and accept it at face value.

I recommend that you pray and study the word of God and let yourself be open to having the Spirit of God show you the truth of his word brother.

They are resting in revelation 6 we see them calling out for their blood to be avenged, after waking up and crying out they are clothed in white and put back to sleep for a little while longer. They are at this time at rest, they will not be awoken to cry out until the fifth seal is opened. My position has been the same the whole time.

They suffered and died(rested) and their blood had not yet been avenged(as described in Thessalonians), so to understand the Passage literally we must take it as the Prophecy has not yet been fulfilled, and will not be fulfilled until Christ's return on the Last day.

 

[parousia70]

They are resting in revelation 6 we see them calling out for their blood to be avenged, after waking up and crying out they are clothed in white and put back to sleep for a little while longer. They are at this time at rest, they will not be awoken to cry out until the fifth seal is opened. My position has been the same the whole time.

They suffered and died(rested) and their blood had not yet been avenged(as described in Thessalonians), so to understand the Passage literally we must take it as the Prophecy has not yet been fulfilled, and will not be fulfilled until Christ's return on the Last day.

This view of yours fully contradicts the Thessalonian text.

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

This view of yours fully contradicts the Thessalonian text.

It is fully in line with the whole of Scripture

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

parousia70 said: ↑
What scripture says that???
The scripture YOU POSTED says they get their rest from that persecution “when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels“
You disagree??

StephenDiscipleofYHWH said: ↑
It says they will rest with the Apostles(who did not live to see the Lord's return with fire). The Lord we are told will return in that day of fire and vengeance(spoken of -Revelation 20), this has not yet occurred so we see from a clear reading of Scripture that it is speaking of the Lord's coming on the Last day.

parousia70 said: ↑
Yet, again, you must completely change the meaning of this passage to make your view work:

6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

The 1st-century Thessalonains were being actually, literally persecuted by actual, literal 1st-century persecutors. Paul says those actual persecutors will go through tribulation, which requires them to still be alive, and Paul also states that the faithful will get rest from that persecution :
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

Not before... not after, but WHEN. Which, again, requires them to still be alive, if we are to take this passage literally.

Your view can't have this passage mean what it literally means. You have to alter the meaning to fit your view.

I recommend altering your view to fit the scripture.

StephenDiscipleofYHWH said: ↑
I changed nothing brother I read it just as it was written. Well we see that the souls of them which were persecuted under the alter are still calling for their blood to be avenged. So we can clearly see that the Lord did not come and exact vengeance yet as described in Thessalonians. The view that is clearly written in scripture the one that I hold, it literally means exactly as it reads and I have shown you how it reads by comparing it to rest of scripture comparing the word of God with the word of God and letting scripture interpret scripture.

parousia70 said: ↑
So they are NOT at this time at rest then?
You said they were.
Which is it? you seem to be all over the map on this.
They would have to NOT be at rest at this moment and still suffering from their persecution at the hands of their persecutors RIGHT NOW if The Lord has not yet avenged them, if we read the passage LITERALLY and accept it at face value.

They are resting in revelation 6 we see them calling out for their blood to be avenged,

G373 used in 2 verses of Revelation...

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

373. anapano from 303 and 3973;
(reflexively) to repose (literally or figuratively (be exempt), remain); by implication, to refresh:--take ease, refresh, (give, take) rest.
3973. pauo pow'-o a primary verb
("pause"); to stop (transitively or intransitively), i.e. restrain, quit, desist, come to an end:--cease, leave, refrain.

Revelation 6:11
Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren,
who would be killed as they were, was completed.

How do the dead die again?

Revelation 14:13
Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ”
“Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”

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[parousia70]

It is fully in line with the whole of Scripture

We have both stated our case. I’m confident our readers have enough information to decide whose position has the weight of scripture behind it.

 

[parousia70]

Only one translation of any given passage can be right. KJV is the Closes to the Original greek and therefore is the Closest to the true and pure word of God.

Can you define what you mean by closest? Closest in time or closest in accuracy?

The KJV is wrought with mistranslations of the original Greek text, so I’m assuming you mean closest on the calendar, But it is spurious to assume spatial proximity equates to a higher level of accuracy, especially when the facts tell the opposite.