Trump Border Wall National Emergency Stands as The House Fails To Override Trump's Veto

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Eventually it's going to break. Don't feel sad when it does because you aren't willing take up cause with people who disagree with you on other stuff.

It broke a long time ago. You can act sanctimonious all you like, but your partisan-led morality of only caring about things when the people that you don't like are in charge is what broke it. Bush was a nasty escalation, and Obama was even more terrible. Any chance to rein in Trump was lost the moment Democrats chose to waste two years on an absurd conspiracy theory. The chance to fix things is over, and it's only going to get worse.
 
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It broke a long time ago. You can act sanctimonious all you like, but your partisan-led morality of only caring about things when the people that you don't like are in charge is what broke it. Bush was a nasty escalation, and Obama was even more terrible. Any chance to rein in Trump was lost the moment Democrats chose to waste two years on an absurd conspiracy theory. The chance to fix things is over, and it's only going to get worse.

Old saying. If you aren't part of the solution that makes you part of something else.

And, also a raging hypocrite not worth my time.
 
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Old saying. If you aren't part of the solution that makes you part of something else.

And, also a raging hypocrite not worth my time.

You want to pour water on the ashes, and call me a hypocrite for pointing out that it's too late to save the house.

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We've had a prior president override the Supreme Court to have his way. If I thought democrats actually cared about limiting the executive branch, I'd be happy. However , I know that this is just more outrage inappropriate content for the left, and they will drop it as soon as they are in office again.

Try again.
 
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One of the few purposes of the government outlined in the Constitution is national security.

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Trump’s Wall/barrier/fence/whatever is not a National Emergency any more than the plot twist on the Walking Dead.
 
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Why? As soon as a Democrat is president, they'll do something even worse and you'll be cheering them on.
The only thing worse than the current President would electing Alex Jones.
 
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Why? As soon as a Democrat is president, they'll do something even worse and you'll be cheering them on.

Why would you assume that? I happen to agree with Rand Paul on this issue. At least he has principals and stand by them. In any case, there is no precedent for what Trump did. And the GOP Congressmen are demonstrating that immediate political objectives is far more important than following their Constitutional mandate.
 
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I'm not sure I care either way. I figure Trump still lost on the 25 billion dollars wall. That he could of got. And he will get less this way. But he's blocking people, that are against abortions, and are very religious. In the end Americans will get more Muslims. The thing Christians fear most. By that time I will be dead or in Europe.
 
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Trump’s Wall/barrier/fence/whatever is not a National Emergency any more than the plot twist on the Walking Dead.

What is and is not an emergency is determined by the president. That is the law. And it is a law enacted by the Congress. The Congress can change the law if it wants to. It doesn't want to. Just like the Congress can change the immigration laws if it wants to. It doesn't want to. Ask Eric Cantor what happens when they try to.

Rather than changing the laws some members of the Congress want to get their way by doing end runs around the law. They don't like our immigration laws so they propose abolishing law enforcement or refuse to fund border enforcement.
 
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What is and is not an emergency is determined by the president. That is the law. And it is a law enacted by the Congress. The Congress can change the law if it wants to. It doesn't want to. Just like the Congress can change the immigration laws if it wants to. It doesn't want to. Ask Eric Cantor what happens when they try to.

Rather than changing the laws some members of the Congress want to get their way by doing end runs around the law. They don't like our immigration laws so they propose abolishing law enforcement or refuse to fund border enforcement.
Trump is abusing the intent of the law and you know it. The law needs to change and Congress should take it on.
 
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Trump is abusing the intent of the law and you know it. The law needs to change and Congress should take it on.

Which law? The emergency declaration law or the immigration law?

There is nothing wrong with what Trump did. There are countless thousands of people crossing the border illegally. Something should be done about it. And if the Congress thinks he did something egregious they can overrule him.
 
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