Futurist Only Psalm 83 and Israel's Neighbors

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Lately Hamas has attacked Israel with missiles.So far Israel has not retaliated but zzI think we can expect so swift and fierce retaliation.I have wondered if Psalm 83 is about to come to pass. Thoughts?
Air Force hits enemy targets after 30 rockets pound Israel
Air Force hits enemy targets after 30 rockets pound Israel
 
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Lately Hamas has attacked Israel with missiles.So far Israel has not retaliated but zzI think we can expect so swift and fierce retaliation.I have wondered if Psalm 83 is about to come to pass. Thoughts?
Air Force hits enemy targets after 30 rockets pound Israel
Air Force hits enemy targets after 30 rockets pound Israel
Things are surely heating up!
But we need to see a few signs yet, such as: Where is Elijah? Malachi 4:5
When is the fulfilment of Isaiah 3:1-7 ? Maybe that will happen after the Israel Elections?

But it will be Iran attempting to fire a nuke missile to Israel, that will call forth God's wrath. Ezekiel 7:14
They will try it when the time seems right, which will be the Appointed Day. Habakkuk 2:3-4
 
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Lately Hamas has attacked Israel with missiles.So far Israel has not retaliated but zzI think we can expect so swift and fierce retaliation.I have wondered if Psalm 83 is about to come to pass. Thoughts?
Air Force hits enemy targets after 30 rockets pound Israel
Air Force hits enemy targets after 30 rockets pound Israel

I've heard numerous times over the last few years that the Psalm 83 war was imminent. Sure, at some point it will happen, but I don't think we are quite there yet, at least not without signs of the mobilization of troops by all the nations listed.
 
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Things are surely heating up!
But we need to see a few signs yet, such as: Where is Elijah? Malachi 4:5
When is the fulfilment of Isaiah 3:1-7 ? Maybe that will happen after the Israel Elections?

But it will be Iran attempting to fire a nuke missile to Israel, that will call forth God's wrath. Ezekiel 7:14
They will try it when the time seems right, which will be the Appointed Day. Habakkuk 2:3-4

Hi Elder Brother,:hug:. I appreciate your input.Yes things are heating up, thus the OP. Does the scripture put Elijah's return before the conflict of Psalm 83? I missed that.:scratch: I always thought that Elijah was one of the two witnesses during the tribulation period, which comes after the Psalm 83 conflict.
 
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I've heard numerous times over the last few years that the Psalm 83 war was imminent. Sure, at some point it will happen, but I don't think we are quite there yet, at least not without signs of the mobilization of troops by all the nations listed.
Thank you brother for your input.:) I have heard the same. But it is looking more like it is about to happen today than ever before. What do you make of Hamas firing the missiles into Israel? I think Israel will invade Gaza. They have been talking about doing so for a while now.
 
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Thank you brother for your input.:) I have heard the same. But it is looking more like it is about to happen today than ever before. What do you make of Hamas firing the missiles into Israel? I think Israel will invade Gaza. They have been talking about doing so for a while now.

You may end up being right. I've just become a bit more cautious about this particular fulfillment over the years. I'd personally just need to see more before making a guess.
 
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You may end up being right. I've just become a bit more cautious about this particular fulfillment over the years. I'd personally just need to see more before making a guess.
That is probably wise. But I can see Israel invading Gaza and her neighbors protesting vehemently taking the side of Hamas.
 
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That is probably wise. But I can see Israel invading Gaza and her neighbors protesting vehemently taking the side of Hamas.

I kind of look on this event as I do the building of the next Temple. I know it will happen at some point, and it's a definite sign the age is wrapping up (which is good), but both events are within themselves ultimately devastating for those involved. So, I anticipate it, but at the same time, I don't desire it.

Accordingly, part of me thinks you might be right, and another part of me hopes you are not.
 
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Psalm 83 Orthodox Jewish Bible

1 (Shir. Mizmor of Asaph).Keep not Thou silent, O Elohim; hold not Thy peace, and be not still, O El (G-d).

2 (3) (3) For, hinei, Thine oyevim are in tumult; and they that hate Thee have lifted up the rosh.

3 (4) (4) They lay out a crafty conspiracy against Amecha (Thy people), and plot against Tzefunecha (Thy sheltered, protected, hidden ones).
4 (5) (5) They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a goy (nation); that the shem Yisroel may be no more remembered.

5 (6) (6) For they have plotted together with one lev; they cut a brit against Thee;

6 (7) (7) The ohalim Edom, and the Yishm'elim; of Moav, and the Hagerim;

7 (8) (8) Geval, and Ammon, and Amalek; Peleshet (Philistia) with the inhabitants of Tzor;

8 (9) (9) Assyria also is joined with them; they are the zero'a (strong arm) of the Bnei Lot. Selah.

9 (10) (10) Do unto them as unto Midyan; as to Sisra, as to Yavin, at the Wadi Kishon [T.N. see Judges chp 4-8];

10 (11) (11) Which became shmad at Ein-Dor; they became like domen (dung, fertilizer) for ha'adamah.

11 (12) (12) Make their nobles like Orev, and like Ze'ev; yes, all their princes like Zevach, and like Tzalmunna;

12 (13) (13) Who said, Let us take possession for ourselves of the pasturelands of Elohim.

13 (14) (14) O Elohai, make them like galgal (tumbleweed); like chaff before the ruach (wind).

14 (15) (15) As the eish consumeth the forest, and as the flame setteth ablaze harim;

15 (16) (16) So pursue them with Thy sa'ar (tempest, storm), and make them afraid with Thy storm.

16 (17) (17) Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek Shimcha, Hashem.

17 (18) (18) Let them be put to shame and dismayed adei ad (forever); yes, let them perish in disgrace;

18 (19) (19) Let them have da'as that Thou alone, Shimcha Hashem, art Elyon al kol HaAretz.
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Psalm 83 Brenton Septuagint Translation

1A Song of a Psalm for Asaph. O God, who shall be compared to thee? be not silent, neither be still, O God.
2For behold, thine enemies have made a noise; and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3Against thy people they have craftily imagined a device, and have taken counsel against thy saints.
4They have said, Come, and let us utterly destroy them out of the nation; and let the name of Israel be remembered no more at all.
5For they have taken counsel together with one consent: they have made a confederacy against thee;
6even the tents of the Idumeans, and the Ismaelites; Moab, and the Agarenes;
7Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalec; the Philistines also, with them that dwell at Tyre.
8Yea, Assur too is come with them: they have become a help to the children of Lot. Pause.
9Do thou to them as to Madiam, and to Sisera; as to Jabin at the brook of Kison.
10They were utterly destroyed at Aendor: they became as dung for the earth.
11Make their princes as Oreb and Zeb, and Zebee and Salmana; even all their princes:
12who said, let us take to ourselves the altar of God as an inheritance.
13O my God, make them as a wheel; as stubble before the face of the wind.
14As fire which shall burn up a wood, as the flame may consume the mountains;
15so shalt thou persecute them with thy tempest, and trouble them in thine anger.
16Fill their faces with dishonour; so shall they seek thy name, O Lord.
17Let them be ashamed and troubled for evermore; yea, let them be confounded and destroyed.
18And let them know that thy name is Lord; that thou alone art Most High over all the earth.
 
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Handmaid, didn't you once believed Psalm 83 was a prophecy about Israel's war of Independence back in 1947-1949?
A lot of people attacked back then. But I don't know if that ws fulfilment of Psalm 83.
 
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Lately Hamas has attacked Israel with missiles.So far Israel has not retaliated but zzI think we can expect so swift and fierce retaliation.I have wondered if Psalm 83 is about to come to pass. Thoughts?
Air Force hits enemy targets after 30 rockets pound Israel
Air Force hits enemy targets after 30 rockets pound Israel
Hi I am a futurist and psalm 83 certainly reveals the heart of many nations over the years. Psalm 83 is a prayer for God to deal with them and is not addressed as thus sayeth the LORD so it may not be a prophetic verse at all. It may be I will wait and see if you compare that to Ezekiel 36-38 and Isaiah 17 there is no doubt that the LORD is proclaiming a certain outcome before it happens.
 
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Hi I am a futurist and psalm 83 certainly reveals the heart of many nations over the years. Psalm 83 is a prayer for God to deal with them and is not addressed as thus sayeth the LORD so it may not be a prophetic verse at all. It may be I will wait and see if you compare that to Ezekiel 36-38 and Isaiah 17 there is no doubt that the LORD is proclaiming a certain outcome before it happens.

Thanks for your input. :) So you think this may just be a foretelling of things to come?
 
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I kind of look on this event as I do the building of the next Temple. I know it will happen at some point, and it's a definite sign the age is wrapping up (which is good), but both events are within themselves ultimately devastating for those involved. So, I anticipate it, but at the same time, I don't desire it.

Accordingly, part of me thinks you might be right, and another part of me hopes you are not.
LOL! I feel you brother. But we all know that things are going to get worse before they get better. I don't think any of us can discern how bad it is going to get. Now as I watch, it looks like Israel will be at peace and living without walls when Ezekiel 38 takes place. But both imho are future events.
 
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I just noticed this headline this morning, which really caught my attention. o_O

Iran's president urges regional unity after U.S. move on Golan Heights
Iran's president urges regional unity after U.S. move on Golan Heights | Reuters
LONDON (Reuters) - Iranian President Hassan Rouhani told Iraq’s prime minister on Tuesday that regional countries must unite to fight against U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to recognize the Golan Heights as part of Israel.

Trump's decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem (symbolically declaring it the capital of Israel, not Palestine) - and especially his latest decision to establish the Golan Heights as part of Israel - really stirred the hornets nest. It's also expected that he may declare the West Bank as officially belonging to Israel as well. It would be very interesting if he did this around the time of the annual March of Return protests and the upcoming Israeli elections. I could see Trump's declarations as being a key role in the fulfillment of this prophecy.

A ground operation into Gaza by Israel's military may also be imminent, due to the recent escalation. I'm sure Israel has had enough of the attacks. If they take back the Gaza strip (especially after Trump's latest actions in support of Israel), I could definitely see that leading to Psalm 83, and possibly Ezekiel 38 & 39 and other prophesies as well. :oldthumbsup:

Edit: a source related to the possible annexation of the West Bank.
Israel says US Golan recognition helps pave way for keeping other captured lands
Israel says US Golan recognition helps pave way for keeping other captured lands
In hint at possible future West Bank annexation, official — named by NYT as Netanyahu — says Golan sovereignty move shows Israel can retain land occupied after a defensive war
 
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We know from Ezekiel 38 that Israel will be at peace when that conflict begins. I am wondering if there will have been another prior conflict in which Israel won new territory. They are not at peace now, but will be dwelling in the land safely then. Is it possible that Israel will annex Gaza and the West Bank in the future?
 
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