Should Christians use hemp oil? (non THC hemp oil)

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How is trying to ease pain and suffering in ones life being like the world? Do you ever take Ibuprofen? Aspirin? Anything? Are you then being like the world for doing so? Unless you have cried all day, everyday in pain--you have no right to impose your will on others.
most of the people who use hemp oil for pain use the non THC type of oil anyway, I have never had a problem with that. I don't even have a problem with 5% THC, so I am sort of confused by your comment. Are you talking about alcohol?
 
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I was ingesting cannabis. I cooked it in water and coconut oil and then added lecithin--drank 1/2 cup twice a day. Never got high. As I said, I ordered high CBD and strains for pain control, muscle relaxants, and sleep. It never made me even sleepy. At first I thought it was doing nothing--in fact my pain got worse--then after the 3rd day--the pain just lifted. I read later that in some it can have a detoxifying effect and that is why I felt worse at first.
I think I would go the THC 5% oil, only 2 drops took away all pain for my mother in law. You could increase the drops depending on severity of pain. It's worth a shot. That way you don't have to compromise.
 
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most of the people who use hemp oil for pain use the non THC type of oil anyway, I have never had a problem with that. I don't even have a problem with 5% THC, so I am sort of confused by your comment. Are you talking about alcohol?

I was referring to this comment:
What you are doing is encouraging the legalization of pot.

I was doing no such thing. And I am all for legal medical marijuana and if insurance covered it, I would go back on it. I just can't afford it, legal or otherwise.
 
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I think I would go the THC 5% oil, only 2 drops took away all pain for my mother in law. You could increase the drops depending on severity of pain. It's worth a shot. That way you don't have to compromise.

My friend gave me a small bottle of oil, unfortunately---it did nothing for my pain, I think I took it for about 2-3 weeks. 1 drop twice a day. It would be too expensive for me anyway, esp. if it takes more than that.
 
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I was referring to this comment:


I was doing no such thing. And I am all for legal medical marijuana and if insurance covered it, I would go back on it. I just can't afford it, legal or otherwise.
it is not my desire to fight with you, however I would ask yourself with everything you buy and use, would Jesus buy this, or use this. Remember on the cross when the offered Jesus a pain medication mixed with wine, as was common practice. He rejected it. Not saying that all pain medicines are wrong, but the ones that are called controlled substances by the government. I know that the government is not God. But I happen to agree with the government that marijuana is a controlled substance. And in the OP I offer peer review saying that use of marijuana can bring on mental illness. The study I presume is based on the most common usage of marijuana, smoking it, or eating it. Not based on using hemp oil. But I could be wrong, thats why I created this thread to find out more info on it.
 
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it is not my desire to fight with you, however I would ask yourself with everything you buy and use, would Jesus buy this, or use this. Remember on the cross when the offered Jesus a pain medication mixed with wine, as was common practice. He rejected it. Not saying that all pain medicines are wrong, but the ones that are called controlled substances by the government. I know that the government is not God. But I happen to agree with the government that marijuana is a controlled substance. And in the OP I offer peer review saying that use of marijuana can bring on mental illness. The study I presume is based on the most common usage of marijuana, smoking it, or eating it. Not based on using hemp oil. But I could be wrong, thats why I created this thread to find out more info on it.

If it is accurate information you want, do not go by what any American educated doctors have to say about it!!! This was a totally legal herb to use, even on teething babies, until the 1930's at which point William Randolph Hurst got on the bandwagon of trying to outlaw it as he considered it a black and Mexican thing and when the depression hit, then the whites wanted to work the fields (which they previously had looked down their noses at) It then became fashionable to be anti marijuana and Hurst's money finally got it outlawed. IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW TO PRINT ANYTHING FAVORABLE ABOUT IT! If you wanted government money for a project, you got it by printing anything bad about it, true or not, and then you could use the money for your pet project. Consequently no doctor, police force or anyone else got any true information on it again!
It wasn't until several years ago that the Israelis' began doing research on it (their government did not have such a ban) that the truth about it finally started appearing and other countries started doing research. If an American research team or doctor says anything negative about it--I will not listen to them---If an Israeli doctor says something negative, him I will believe.
I don't believe Jesus would have turned down my tea, it wouldn't have altered His mind one bit. I feel He led me to it to ease my suffering.
 
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IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW TO PRINT ANYTHING FAVORABLE ABOUT IT!
One might also have to consider that those who had so much invested at the time in petroleum, chemicals and steel might not like the competition that non drug hemp offered. it was easier to lump it in with marijuana and have it banned through legal means to wipe out competition. Ironically the US had to revert back to using hemp to manufacture vehicles during WWII when metals were at a shortage.
 
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One might also have to consider that those who had so much invested at the time in petroleum, chemicals and steel might not like the competition that non drug hemp offered. it was easier to lump it in with marijuana and have it banned through legal means to wipe out competition. Ironically the US had to revert back to using hemp to manufacture vehicles during WWII when metals were at a shortage.

Yes--and the cotton industry hated hemp for they had started to make clothing from it and they were afraid it would interfere with their financial gains. The tobacco industry went all out against it as tobacco use dropped with the use of marijuana and they didn't like it. Blacks and Mexicans did use it a lot--it was the blacks and Mexicans that did the menial labor that the whites didn't want to do until the depression and it was used for pain relief as they couldn't afford to go to doctors. Making it illegal protected a lot of other interests, and only harmed those that were using it for pain control and other health reasons. And yes, of course, there are always those that will use anything to try to alter their minds. But there are idiots out there who use bath salts for that purpose also!! It was not for the good of the people or the good of the country as was bandied about that cannabis became illegal.
 
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It was not for the good of the people or the good of the country as was bandied about that cannabis became illegal.
Not to worry. They will get back on the bandwagon as soon as they see the profits to be made from switching the industry from corn to industrial hemp lol Grow your own diesel fuel
 
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There are people who swear hemp oil helps them with many problems related to there health.

I was placed on Marinol (some kind of pot) it really did not do much in helping to improve my appetite in the early days of my cancer.I

I'm not sure, but I think Hemp is still considered illegal by the Federal Government.

Regular Marijuana is a controlled substance, but any Hemp variety without THC is legal to grow and use. I took a good dose of CBD yesterday knowing I'd be on my feet all day at work and I'd normally be unable to stand by the time I got home from work.

But I've compared the two in action and the level of pain relief is the same as Ibuprofen for me. Given the much higher cost, I usually take advantage of free Ibuprofen in the first aid cabinet at work.

I had an "incident" when experimenting with CBD where I woke up with bloodshot eyes and found my blood pressure at 129/47. I'd really like to find a dose that could control my blood pressure becasue Valsartan might be hard on the liver, long term.
 
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Regular Marijuana is a controlled substance, but any Hemp variety without THC is legal to grow and use. I took a good dose of CBD yesterday knowing I'd be on my feet all day at work and I'd normally be unable to stand by the time I got home from work.

But I've compared the two in action and the level of pain relief is the same as Ibuprofen for me. Given the much higher cost, I usually take advantage of free Ibuprofen in the first aid cabinet at work.

I had an "incident" when experimenting with CBD where I woke up with bloodshot eyes and found my blood pressure at 129/47. I'd really like to find a dose that could control my blood pressure becasue Valsartan might be hard on the liver, long term.

You can get a reaction to Ibuprofen---even though you've used it for years without a problem. I used it for years, helped with my back pain. Then I began to get slight nausea, from what I couldn't figure out. It got worse. I suspected the Ibu and stopped it. My nausea left. Then after a few weeks, I started it again, no problem---all of a sudden I got super nauseous and began vomiting, it was non-stop. I got so dizzy I could barely stand, my husband called an ambulance. They couldn't stop my vomiting for a long time. I felt the sickest I had ever felt in my life. I was overnight in the ER, they could find nothing. When I got home I did a lot of research and there it was---a rare side affect of Ibu---"non-stop, continuous vomiting." That was all it said. I didn't take it again for over a year, took one tablet and again felt nauseous---haven't touched it since.
 
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You can get a reaction to Ibuprofen---even though you've used it for years without a problem. I used it for years, helped with my back pain. Then I began to get slight nausea, from what I couldn't figure out. It got worse. I suspected the Ibu and stopped it. My nausea left. Then after a few weeks, I started it again, no problem---all of a sudden I got super nauseous and began vomiting, it was non-stop. I got so dizzy I could barely stand, my husband called an ambulance. They couldn't stop my vomiting for a long time. I felt the sickest I had ever felt in my life. I was overnight in the ER, they could find nothing. When I got home I did a lot of research and there it was---a rare side affect of Ibu---"non-stop, continuous vomiting." That was all it said. I didn't take it again for over a year, took one tablet and again felt nauseous---haven't touched it since.

I work in the "Miscellaneous" department at work and have a couple captains chairs and stools for all my odd jobs. But I ran out of work and have had to work on my feet in the CNC shop for a couple days. If I'm not standing for 10 hours, my big duck foot is ok. I'll be waiting for that continuous vomiting to show up. Sounds like a hoot! Thanks!
 
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I work in the "Miscellaneous" department at work and have a couple captains chairs and stools for all my odd jobs. But I ran out of work and have had to work in the cnc shop for a couple days. I'll be waiting for that continuous vomiting to show up. Thanks!

It is rare---you may not get it. Hope not--it is an awful feeling, when I was put in the ambulance, I thought I might not return home.
 
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I would like to share an analogous incident in my life. Some years ago my wife and I and a friend and his wife went to dinner. I occasionally have a glass of wine I wanted a glass of wine but that place only served carafes, about 2 1/2 glasses. So I ordered a carafe. Some time later I heard the friend's wife talking to someone, trying to excuse or justify her husband's alcoholism she said "Well, he drank a whole bottle of wine." Since that time nobody will ever see me drink my occasional glass of wine. Actually one of the little 8 oz bottles that airlines serve. So if I were to try CBD oil nobody would know. One of my relatives recently told me that her sister was greatly improved after using CBD oil for a few weeks but that another relative was not helped at all.

I take Hemp oil pretty much daily so that I don't have to take the much more toxic nsaids or worse, opioids for pain due to a chronic back issue. It keeps the need for the artificial stuff to a minimum. The hemp oil I take though does not contain the thc that gives marijuana its mind altering characteristics but it does include omegas in correct proportions and beneficial nutritional acids.

A lot of people using it.

We have some in the cabinet didn't seem to do much for us?

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Not to worry. They will get back on the bandwagon as soon as they see the profits to be made from switching the industry from corn to industrial hemp lol Grow your own diesel fuel

I work in the "Miscellaneous" department at work and have a couple captains chairs and stools for all my odd jobs. But I ran out of work and have had to work on my feet in the CNC shop for a couple days. If I'm not standing for 10 hours, my big duck foot is ok. I'll be waiting for that continuous vomiting to show up. Sounds like a hoot! Thanks!

It is rare---you may not get it. Hope not--it is an awful feeling, when I was put in the ambulance, I thought I might not return home.

I added a peer review to the OP regarding using cannibus and a side effect of schizophrenia:

now it does not say what form the cannibus was taken in, I presume if you are using low THC that this will not affect you, but it really does not say, and I don't actually know for sure.

here is one peer review study:
Cannabis and psychosis/schizophrenia: human studies
 
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There has been considerable debate about this. Many say hemp oil helps them with pain, seizures and a host of other illnesses. I asked a pastor the other day, and while he is pretty certain smoking week for recreation is against the bible, he was sort of unsure about hemp oil, especially non THC hemp oil. While he did not think it was suitable for him or his wife, who has a lot of pain to use it (because they are in ministry), they could not find a suitable answer to if a christian should use it or not. I personally think non THC hemp oil is not a bad thing, but I do want to post a peer review about it. My son has autism, and I asked his psychiatrist about it, and she said that hemp oil can induce psychosis. Basically that means if Schizoaffective disorder runs in the family, that someone taking hemp oil regularly can get psychosis earlier than if the did not use it. It won't give it to you if it does not run in the family but it can if it does. So I was just thinking, I would like some confirmation about this so i googled it, and found out she was right:

here is one peer review study:
Cannabis and psychosis/schizophrenia: human studies

Cannabis-Induced Bipolar Disorder with Psychotic Features: A Case Report
(now the study does not mention if they are smoking it or using oil with THC or oil without THC, it does not say, I assume the article is about THC).

This is not a thread about recreational use of marijuana, or about using THC hemp oil as that is against the rules.

but this is about the morality of non THC hemp oil.
(I don't think it's against the rules to post this, but I just wanted you to know I am not really sure)
I use a topical application of THC and CBD 2/1, for my tendinitis... .works better than any non steroidal over the counter..

However, I am in Canada and it's legal here now.

As an aside, the only reason that I would have not used this is if it was a controlled substance and would have incriminated me to have it. God gave us all the plants. There are many uses for these plants and chemicals. Pharmaceutical companies find the active reagent, synthesize it and sell it to you. Problem is that most of the time the synthetic agent is harder on the body and may have adverse side affects that the natural form does not.

It's amazing, now that canabinoids are legal, the number of products out there that are great for treating ailments.

As a Christian, I see it no different than Ginko Biloba, Milk Thistle, Willow Bark, St John's Wort or any other natural extract that is legal.
 
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I use a topical application of THC and CBD 2/1, for my tendinitis... .works better than any non steroidal over the counter..

However, I am in Canada and it's legal here now.

As an aside, the only reason that I would have not used this is if it was a controlled substance and would have incriminated me to have it. God gave us all the plants. There are many uses for these plants and chemicals. Pharmaceutical companies find the active reagent, synthesize it and sell it to you. Problem is that most of the time the synthetic agent is harder on the body and may have adverse side affects that the natural form does not.

It's amazing, now that canabinoids are legal, the number of products out there that are great for treating ailments.


As a Christian, I see it no different than Ginko Biloba, Milk Thistle, Willow Bark, St John's Wort or any other natural extract that is legal.
In the united states it is a controlled substance federally because it is widely known that THC causes several mental illnesses.

here are a few more peer reviews:

Cannabis and psychosis: what is the link? - PubMed - NCBI

Causal association between cannabis and psychosis: examination of the evidence. - PubMed - NCBI
 
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If pre-existing conditions can be used to deny health insurance thus helping those who would profit, then it is not a stretch to see pre-existing conditions then being used to help those who profit by banning medical M. Far more exacerbation of pre-existing conditions is caused by stress then other factors, yet we don't see stress being made illegal. I do agree that abuse of THC can indeed lead to paranoia and the like in those so inclined but like anything else, abuse means just that compared to moderation. What does the Bible say about abuse? What about moderation? And THC is not a factor in industrial hemp or it's products.
 
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I added a peer review to the OP regarding using cannibus and a side effect of schizophrenia:

now it does not say what form the cannibus was taken in, I presume if you are using low THC that this will not affect you, but it really does not say, and I don't actually know for sure.

here is one peer review study:
Cannabis and psychosis/schizophrenia: human studies

Yes--I accept this study as it was done by Israelis and they publish good and bad, not just bad. It is to be noted that there is an increase of the problem--with those who have a predisposition to it and use it when they are young.


"Use of marijuana during adolescence significantly increases the risk of schizophrenia among young people with a genetic predisposition to the disease, according to a new study by Israeli and American researchers.

The study was recently published in the journal Human Molecular Genetics.

During the research, which was done on mice, the scientists identified the biological mechanism that contributes to the outbreak of the illness while using marijuana, hashish and a synthetic drug known as “Nice Guy.” The study was conducted by researchers at Tel Aviv University, Geha Psychiatric Hospital and Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore."
Israeli, U.S. scientists link pot with teen schizophrenia

And the line you quoted was in regards to my use of Ibuprofen, not medical marijuana.
 
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Yes--I accept this study as it was done by Israelis and they publish good and bad, not just bad. It is to be noted that there is an increase of the problem--with those who have a predisposition to it and use it when they are young.


"Use of marijuana during adolescence significantly increases the risk of schizophrenia among young people with a genetic predisposition to the disease, according to a new study by Israeli and American researchers.

The study was recently published in the journal Human Molecular Genetics.

During the research, which was done on mice, the scientists identified the biological mechanism that contributes to the outbreak of the illness while using marijuana, hashish and a synthetic drug known as “Nice Guy.” The study was conducted by researchers at Tel Aviv University, Geha Psychiatric Hospital and Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore."
Israeli, U.S. scientists link pot with teen schizophrenia

And the line you quoted was in regards to my use of Ibuprofen, not medical marijuana.
Oh, I was referring to the 50% THC topical ointment. That seems a bit high on THC. That is why I posted the studies. The original article has lots of peer reviews in the end. More than I posted.
 
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