'Captain Marvel' presale tickets have already outpaced those of 'Wonder Woman'

[SummerMadness]

The movie was good, not great, but definitely not bad. The movie felt a little small for this phase of Marvel movies, but that may be by design (i.e., it was shot like a 90s movie, especially the hard wink to Independence Day). It was much better than Wonder Woman, although I find DC stuff boring.

I will have to give it another look so I can dig a little deeper into the film content. As a non-comic reader, I couldn’t care less about changes made, so as long as the story is coherent and makes sense (e.g., Joker did not fall into vat of acid or create Two-Face as occurred in Nolan universe).

 

[LiberalChristian1980]

Princess Leia...when did that movie come out again?

I went to see Captain Marvel. It was dull, plodding, and dogmatic. Also boring. The Skrull-chase scene through the city played out like a nineties version of a seventies cop show. It was a poor attempt at a buddy film only where one buddy disdains the other. And just about everyone else. Unlike every other movie comprising the MCU, there was no joy in it at all.

It is so amazing that you went to a movie you were planning on hating and ended up hating it.

 

[Ttalkkugjil]

'Captain Marvel' presale tickets have already outpaced those of 'Wonder Woman'

Captain Marvel is a so-so movie. It's no Guardians of the Galaxy, but it's no Thor: Ragnarok either.

 

[SummerMadness]

It is so amazing that you went to a movie you were planning on hating and ended up hating it.

I usually just skip those movies if I think I won't like it. Seems like that's the strategy most use, but I guess not always...

 

[Lost4words]

The cat was the star of the movie! Lol

 

[SummerMadness]

The cat was the star of the movie! Lol

Mother flerken!

 

[Sistrin]

Did you happen to notice that the dogfight through the canyon was a direct rip-off of the dogfight in Independence Day?

Yeah, I did:

 

[iluvatar5150]

Yeah, I did:

lol wow

That's your channel, right?

 

[Sistrin]

My younger son runs it, I just post stuff there at times.

 

[SummerMadness]

When 'Captain Marvel' Became a Target, the Rules Changed

One audience reviewer deemed the movie "a complete disaster." Another was "tired of all this SJW nonsense," using the abbreviation for "social justice warrior," a pejorative term for progressives. Yet another groused that Brie Larson, the movie’s star, "says I shouldn't see the movie anyway."

"Captain Marvel" had not even been released yet — its opening day was a month away — but that did not stop negative remarks from piling up against the film and Ms. Larson.

Much as Facebook and Twitter have had to grapple with false stories aimed at inciting violence or disrupting elections, movie review aggregators like Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb are often besieged by users trying to manipulate a film’s box office success.

I am reminded of IMDb removing its forums, Rotten Tomatoes removing user comments for critics, and other changes to websites brought about by trolls and/or threats. These folks probably argue to themselves that the movies couldn't stand up to the scrutiny, yet they fail to miss the fact that attempting to skew the numbers with a negative campaign defeats the purpose of the rating systems.

I think this movie as a flashpoint is not surprising, it says something about subconscious sexism; I would say the same thing about racism and Black Panther, which ironically is now used by some detractors to attack this film as a failure if it does not achieve particular box office numbers. I think the fact that MCU threads on this forum that are not about Black Panther and Captain Marvel have so few posts in comparison points to an obvious fact: people (mostly men) who are so virulently angry at this fun superhero movie would benefit from self-examination. The quality of the film is not the problem, it is far better than The Incredible Hulk or Thor: The Dark World, so it's fairly evident to me that the issue is resentment of shared space (it certainly comes across that way when you demand a woman with a female lead have elements that you have not required of films with male leads).

This was a Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 quality movie, which is good, but not great. It can't hold a candle to Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Black Panther, or Spider-Man: Homecoming (my top 3 for MCU movies).

 

[RDKirk]

When 'Captain Marvel' Became a Target, the Rules Changed


I am reminded of IMDb removing its forums, Rotten Tomatoes removing user comments for critics, and other changes to websites brought about by trolls and/or threats. These folks probably argue to themselves that the movies couldn't stand up to the scrutiny, yet they fail to miss the fact that attempting to skew the numbers with a negative campaign defeats the purpose of the rating systems.

I think this movie as a flashpoint is not surprising, it says something about subconscious sexism; I would say the same thing about racism and Black Panther, which ironically is now used by some detractors to attack this film as a failure if it does not achieve particular box office numbers. I think the fact that MCU threads on this forum that are not about Black Panther and Captain Marvel have so few posts in comparison points to an obvious fact: people (mostly men) who are so virulently angry at this fun superhero movie would benefit from self-examination. The quality of the film is not the problem, it is far better than The Incredible Hulk or Thor: The Dark World, so it's fairly evident to me that the issue is resentment of shared space (it certainly comes across that way when you demand a woman with a female lead have elements that you have not required of films with male leads).

This was a Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 quality movie, which is good, but not great. It can't hold a candle to Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Black Panther, or Spider-Man: Homecoming (my top 3 for MCU movies).

I'm annoyed that they turned a strong black male into the comedy relief.

I'm annoyed that they broke up an intact black family with a strong black father and turned them into the stereotyped black single mother.

I'm annoyed that they deprecated the first black female superhero to a sidekick supporting the blonde.

And none of that was necessary to have a strong female superhero, if they had stuck to the comics and made Monica Rambeau the superhero that succeeded Mar-vell.

 

[RDKirk]

That was probably the one I had from DC. It was not good so I did not get another. THen I saw the Marvel guy with the Saturn logo on his shirt and gave up on the whole thing as too confusing.

Never had too much interest in the Marvel characters anyway. I did read FF and X men for a while, with cyclops being my favorite of those, but lost interest rather quickly.

But i did like the cross over spoofs of Not Brand Echh comics.

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I would LOVE to see movies made from THOSE comics ...

I still have a copy of one of those issues.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Boy am I ever glad I never invested much of my time into any of these superhero movies.

 

[Ironhold]

When 'Captain Marvel' Became a Target, the Rules Changed


I am reminded of IMDb removing its forums, Rotten Tomatoes removing user comments for critics, and other changes to websites brought about by trolls and/or threats. These folks probably argue to themselves that the movies couldn't stand up to the scrutiny, yet they fail to miss the fact that attempting to skew the numbers with a negative campaign defeats the purpose of the rating systems.

I think this movie as a flashpoint is not surprising, it says something about subconscious sexism; I would say the same thing about racism and Black Panther, which ironically is now used by some detractors to attack this film as a failure if it does not achieve particular box office numbers. I think the fact that MCU threads on this forum that are not about Black Panther and Captain Marvel have so few posts in comparison points to an obvious fact: people (mostly men) who are so virulently angry at this fun superhero movie would benefit from self-examination. The quality of the film is not the problem, it is far better than The Incredible Hulk or Thor: The Dark World, so it's fairly evident to me that the issue is resentment of shared space (it certainly comes across that way when you demand a woman with a female lead have elements that you have not required of films with male leads).

This was a Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 quality movie, which is good, but not great. It can't hold a candle to Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Black Panther, or Spider-Man: Homecoming (my top 3 for MCU movies).

FYI -

There's a functional difference between a "progressive" and a "social justice warrior".

A "progressive" is the kind of person who would politely stand outside city hall with a banner to protest a recent decision. These people want change, and are usually willing to work within the system... even if they don't understand quite how or why the system works in the first place. Generally, you can reason with these people and help them see what's going on.

A "social justice warrior" is the kind of person who would wait behind city hall to hit the mayor with a brick. They don't care about any system that doesn't agree with them, and will burn everything down around them to make the change they want to see happen. These people have all too often closed their minds off, and may even attack anyone who tries to call them to repentance.

I say this not as stereotype, but from personal experience in dealing with both types of people.

Ever see a self-professed "feminist" try to explain that it's OK for such-and-such other woman to be bullied and harassed for having the "wrong" political views? I have.

 

[SummerMadness]

FYI -

There's a functional difference between a "progressive" and a "social justice warrior".

A "progressive" is the kind of person who would politely stand outside city hall with a banner to protest a recent decision. These people want change, and are usually willing to work within the system... even if they don't understand quite how or why the system works in the first place. Generally, you can reason with these people and help them see what's going on.

A "social justice warrior" is the kind of person who would wait behind city hall to hit the mayor with a brick. They don't care about any system that doesn't agree with them, and will burn everything down around them to make the change they want to see happen. These people have all too often closed their minds off, and may even attack anyone who tries to call them to repentance.

I say this not as stereotype, but from personal experience in dealing with both types of people.

Ever see a self-professed "feminist" try to explain that it's OK for such-and-such other woman to be bullied and harassed for having the "wrong" political views? I have.

The person with the brick in this analogy are the people attempting to destroy the movie’s Rotten Tomatoes rating, spreading lies about audience attendance, and spending every waking moment attacking a movie that probably wouldn’t have gotten as much attention if not for their negative campaign.

 

[Dave-W]

I still have a copy of one of those issues.

We need to have a movie on Forbush Man.

 

[RDKirk]

We need to have a movie on Forbush Man.

I always thought it said something positive for Stan Lee and crew to so spicily parody themselves.

 

[bhsmte]

Boy am I ever glad I never invested much of my time into any of these superhero movies.

I'm with ya.

When it comes to movies, whatever suits your taste folks.

 

[super animator]

I found the whole SJW vs anti-SJW and anti-anti-SJW vs anti-SJW to be stupid.

 

[LiberalChristian1980]

I'm annoyed that they deprecated the first black female superhero to a sidekick supporting the blonde.

Isn't Storm the first black female super hero?