Nancy Pelosi says impeachment of Trump 'just not worth it'

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Indeed. By the way, does anyone remember how different Obama spoke during a serious speech vs. when he was addressing a crowd at a campaign rally?

He who was the Ivy League graduate most of the time became a veritable 'Aw shucks Andy of Mayberry' type with arm gestures and rolled up sleeves when the audience was labor union workers or Democrat volunteers.
 
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What? Being narcissistic would make him resilient to manipulation. A narcissist would place himself and his ideas far above the ideas and desires of others.
No. A narcissist is the most fragile of all. They are Very Vulnerable to manipulation. They cannot stand the thought of being humbled in any way.
 
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No. A narcissist is the most fragile of all. They are Very Vulnerable to manipulation. They cannot stand the thought of being humbled in any way.

Narcissists are very self willed people, are they not?
 
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No. They are driven by indescribable fear. They are not driven by "themselves."

That doesn't describe my experience with narcissists at all. They don't care what anyone thinks but themselves. You can't get them to do anything that will not immediately benefit their own lot.
 
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That doesn't describe my experience with narcissists at all. They don't care what anyone thinks but themselves. You can't get them to do anything that will not immediately benefit their own lot.
You do not have a full perspective. If a narcissist thinks they are going to be hung out to dry (exposed as a fraud, a fake, a criminal), they will do ANYTHING to prevent it. They are extremely vulnerable to blackmail.
 
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You do not have a full perspective. If a narcissist thinks they are going to be hung out to dry (exposed as a fraud, a fake, a criminal), they will do ANYTHING to prevent it. They are extremely vulnerable to blackmail.

So then Putin knows something that our own intelligence agencies do not know.
 
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Honestly, it makes sense because he really isn’t worth it. He is essentially a lame duck that can’t anything of worth passed thanks to the loss of the Republican majority. Dividing a country over an ineffective president who will cry like a small child that he’s being picked on, rallying the base who likes to claim they’re picked on when the problem will resolve itself in less than 2 years is fairly pointless.

If (when) they tie him to illegal activity during his campaign and presidency, impeachment becomes less decisive. It also saved a means to get him out should he be re-elected. Heaven forbid.
 
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We have a saying in Army targeting..”.is the juice worth the squeeze?”

Apparently Madame Speaker does not think so.
I think if she thought she could successfully impeach Trump, she would be doing it.
 
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How many Presidents has the FBI opened an investigation on to look into whether or not He was on the Kremlin's Payroll?

What level of evidence needs to be presented to the FBI before the FBI would open such an investigation against a sitting President? Would the FBI require ANY evidence before they would open such an investigation?

Our Intelligence agencies KNOW PLENTY.

Buckle up Kids.
 
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Uh uh and it's almost like all rumors about a collusion is automatically true with no proof! Especially if you don't like the candidate!

Insinuation is all that's need in todays world in some small circles, for the rest of us it's innocent until proven guilty.
 
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Apparently Madame Speaker does not think so.

She doesn't have the juice to try to squeeze to begin with. And she knows if the rest of the party doesn't put their masks back on 2020 is not going to be pretty for her party, they'll be voted out in droves again and she might as well retire.
 
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How many Presidents has the FBI opened an investigation on to look into whether or not He was on the Kremlin's Payroll?

What level of evidence needs to be presented to the FBI before the FBI would open such an investigation against a sitting President? Would the FBI require ANY evidence before they would open such an investigation?

Our Intelligence agencies KNOW PLENTY.

Buckle up Kids.

I thought we were going to drop our argument since there is no reasoning.
 
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I thought we were going to drop our argument since there is no reasoning.

yah I know... sorry.. this seemed to be a different argument than whether or not Trump has a thin skin..I'll unquote you though.
Feel free to ignore my posts.
 
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yah I know... sorry.. this seemed to be a different argument than whether or not Trump has a thin skin..I'll unquote you though.
Feel free to ignore my posts.

No worries, I just know that if we just argue then we will never get it resolved since we clearly are from different points of view and so thus there is no convincing either one of us to see the other way.
 
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No worries, I just know that if we just argue then we will never get it resolved since we clearly are from different points of view and so thus there is no convincing either one of us to see the other way.

I know... that's really the MO around here anyway. I've never been much of a "Preach it to the Choir" type of guy.

Mostly I post for the Lurkers and the seekers to help provide a different viewpoint for them to consider, and having someone such as yourself willing and able to present a staunchly opposite viewpoint, I find very helpful for that purpose...

I know I'm not changing your mind nor are you changing mine... but the fruits of our debate may help our readers make up their minds.

But if that's not your bag, I get it.
Cheers!
 
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Barbarian observes:
She seems to be really good at pushing his buttons. She got him to take responsibility for shutting down the government, after she angered him when she pointedly told him "you don't have the votes" for his wall.

Then she beat him on the shutdown. And nothing infuriates him more than being outsmarted by a woman.

Trump was the first president to win with a female campaign manager.

Apparently, because she was the last one standing; at least two earlier campaign managers got themselves into legal trouble, and were removed.

I don't think he has an agenda against women.

He throws tantrums when they outsmart him, and when they oppose him, he acts like a foul-mouth 8-year-old.
 
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I know... that's really the MO around here anyway. I've never been much of a "Preach it to the Choir" type of guy.

Mostly I post for the Lurkers and the seekers to help provide a different viewpoint for them to consider, and having someone such as yourself willing and able to present a staunchly opposite viewpoint, I find very helpful for that purpose...

I know I'm not changing your mind nor are you changing mine... but the fruits of our debate may help our readers make up their minds.

But if that's not your bag, I get it.
Cheers!

There are very few "undecided" people these days. Most people have an opinion on Trump by now so you aren't going to be influencing anyone and neither will I.
 
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Barbarian observes:
She seems to be really good at pushing his buttons. She got him to take responsibility for shutting down the government, after she angered him when she pointedly told him "you don't have the votes" for his wall.

Then she beat him on the shutdown. And nothing infuriates him more than being outsmarted by a woman.



Apparently, because she was the last one standing; at least two earlier campaign managers got themselves into legal trouble, and were removed.



He throws tantrums when they outsmart him, and when they oppose him, he acts like a foul-mouth 8-year-old.

More like he throws "tantrums" when ANYONE opposes him. This is not a gender issue.
 
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