Nancy Pelosi says impeachment of Trump 'just not worth it'

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I was referring to the 2020 Presidential Election - if this President is facing federal and/or state criminal charges once he leaves office, to what extremes would Donald J. be willing to go to remain in the White House!

Michael Cohen made a passing reference to this in his testimony - what happens if this President refuses to accept the legitimacy of the 2020 Election, should he lose!

We've already seen hints of this when he described the 2016 Election as "rigged" before he won, and then establishing a "commission" to investigate the 3 million "illegal" ballots that prevented him from winning the popular vote!
If Cohen is the basis for further investigation then the House has completely lost their marbles.
 
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Guys, if he's being controlled by Putin then he absolutely must be impeached since yesterday. By implication, if Pelosi and the other Democrats do not want to impeach a Russian plant, the only logical explanation is that they themselves have been compromised as well, and are working for Russia and covering for Trump. This is devastating to realize, but we must consider all possibilities here.

Not necessarily. Pelosi may be perfectly aware that Trump is being manipulated by Putin, but it still could be worse for the country as a whole to create division, since either way, Putin will win (Putin's cyber troll farms have been trying to stoke animosity in both the left and right). The best thing may simply be damage control. Sometimes wise governance requires restraint.
 
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Not necessarily. Pelosi may be perfectly aware that Trump is being manipulated by Putin, but it still could be worse for the country as a whole to create division, since either way, Putin will win (Putin's cyber troll farms have been trying to stoke animosity in both the left and right). The best thing may simply be damage control. Sometimes wise governance requires restraint.

Oh wow people STILL believe in the "Russian collusion" today! Amazing.
 
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Oh wow people STILL believe in the "Russian collusion" today! Amazing.

Being manipulated by Russia and colluding with Russia are not necessarily the same thing. The burden of proof is higher for collusion, for one.
 
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Being manipulated by Russia and colluding with Russia are not necessarily the same thing. The burden of proof is higher for collusion, for one.

Enlighten me on how Putin is manipulating Trump and making Trump do anything he wasn't already planning on doing.
 
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Nancy Pelosi says impeachment of Trump 'just not worth it'

1. Because house Democrats look stupid, and insidious, enough already.

2. Democrats should be held responsible for false accusations, against a sitting president (and against 62 million American voters (accusing them of racism).

3. The media should be held liable for touting and pushing this false backhanded accusation against an American president.

8. The 8th Commandment says 'Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor'. 'Christians' should know better than to make allegations, without evidence (and against neighbors, fellow Americans), yet they are doing so 'here'.
 
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Nancy Pelosi says impeachment of Trump 'just not worth it'

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she doesn’t support impeaching President Trump, dealing a major setback to the anti-Trump resistance that has clamored for House Democrats to take the politically charged step.

Mrs. Pelosi, in an interview with The Washington Post Magazine released Monday, said that while she doubts Mr. Trump’s fitness for office, impeaching him would be too divisive.

“I’m not for impeachment,” she told the magazine, adding she was aware she was breaking news with the announcement. “Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.”

Mrs. Pelosi had been trying to tamp down impeachment talk within her ranks for months, but she has had only moderate success.

More at link:
Nancy Pelosi rules out impeaching Donald Trump as 'so divisive' - Washington Times

Poster note: Is Madame Speaker basically saying Trump is not worth the effort?
"Just not worth it" means they don't have anything to impeach him on. If they had ANYTHING, they would impeach.
 
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Poster note: Is Madame Speaker basically saying Trump is not worth the effort?
I doesn't appear to be what she means. She understands just how difficult impeachment is and her concern is for the 2020 election cycle. Unless enough GOP senators are on board for the process, it won't be successful.
 
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Putin manipulates everyone, or at least attempts to do so. He said it best himself, "There is no such thing as former KGB".

Yes but I don't think you know how strong willed Trump is. Trump is probably one of the strongest willed person who has ever lived. Good luck with manipulating that.

Manipulation is a tactic that only works on the weak willed.

You still have not said HOW Putin is manipulating Trump. Is Putin calling the white house directly and telling Trump what to do or does he have a secret brain ray in the white house that allows him to remotely control Trump's brain?
 
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Manipulation is a tactic that only works on the weak willed.

Would you say there is a difference between weak willed and thin-skinned?
Trump may have a strong will but he has VERY thin skin.

You still have not said HOW Putin is manipulating Trump.

Gotta be $$$$.
It's the only language strong enough to bring Him to his knees.
 
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Would you say there is a difference between week willed and thin skinned?
Trump may have a strong will but he has VERY thin skin.



Gotta be $$$$.
It's the only language strong enough to bring Him to his knees.

Okay so if Trump had a thin skin then that's marvelous how someone with such a thin skin managed to not only destroy his opponents and win the election for the highest position in the USA. Can you explain to me how a thin skinned person managed that?

And do tell me how Trump is benefiting from Putin financially?
 
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Nancy Pelosi says impeachment of Trump 'just not worth it'

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she doesn’t support impeaching President Trump, dealing a major setback to the anti-Trump resistance that has clamored for House Democrats to take the politically charged step.

Mrs. Pelosi, in an interview with The Washington Post Magazine released Monday, said that while she doubts Mr. Trump’s fitness for office, impeaching him would be too divisive.

“I’m not for impeachment,” she told the magazine, adding she was aware she was breaking news with the announcement. “Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.”

Mrs. Pelosi had been trying to tamp down impeachment talk within her ranks for months, but she has had only moderate success.

More at link:
Nancy Pelosi rules out impeaching Donald Trump as 'so divisive' - Washington Times

Poster note: Is Madame Speaker basically saying Trump is not worth the effort?
impeachment is really just pointing the finger it alone doesn't actually do much except perhaps get a lot of people stirred up and wastes a lot of time. For perspective, it took a full year for Clinton to be acquitted by the Senate after impeachment.

Trump's inabilities, however few or many, I can't see going very far if impeached. Trump simply hasn't done enough to warrant a conviction and the rest of the world will just be laughing. Pelosi is right but I don't see it as a personal attack, rather that it's just bad business. In a year Trump will be up for a vote again and perhaps it will solve itself, if not I still doubt impeachment will be on the table. Johnson was impeached for basically political reasons but that was 150 years ago and those games don't work the same way.
 
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Okay so if Trump had a thin skin then that's marvelous how someone with such a thin skin managed to not only destroy his opponents and win the election for the highest position in the USA. Can you explain to me how a thin skinned person managed that?
The Cult of personality. Plenty of celebrities at the top of their game are thin skinned...
Can you explain how a thick skin is in any way a prerequisite for winning a popularity contest?

And do tell me how Trump is benefiting from Putin financially?
He's not.
 
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The Cult of personality.


He's not.

So explain to me how Trump has exhibited thin skin?

So if Trump is not benefiting from Putin financially then you admit that Putin is NOT manipulating Trump?
 
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I doesn't appear to be what she means. She understands just how difficult impeachment is and her concern is for the 2020 election cycle. Unless enough GOP senators are on board for the process, it won't be successful.
They "abhor" him. If they had evidence, they would impeach. They just don't have any.
 
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Yes but I don't think you know how strong willed Trump is. Trump is probably one of the strongest willed person who has ever lived. Good luck with manipulating that.

Manipulation is a tactic that only works on the weak willed.

You still have not said HOW Putin is manipulating Trump. Is Putin calling the white house directly and telling Trump what to do or does he have a secret brain ray in the white house that allows him to remotely control Trump's brain?

Trump is not strong willed, he's narcissistic and vain. That should not be confused with a strong will. And that's precisely what makes him vulnerable to manipulation.

It is obvious Putin manipulated Trump last year when they met and Trump contradicted his own intelligence community, and took up the Russian talking points. Putin manipulates people subconsciously through methods he has been taught in the KGB on how to influence people. Haven't you watched The Americans?

Putin even manipulated George W. Bush years ago when they met, he intentionally wore an old cross in an attempt to appeal to Bush's sense of religiosity. You don't think that was accidental? Putin knows how to read people and knows how to push their buttons and get them to move closer to seeing the world his way.
 
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So explain to me how Trump has exhibited thin skin?

Would you like me to google that for you?

Why Is Donald Trump So Much More Thin-skinned Than Hillary Clinton?

https://www.google.com/search?q=tru...rome..69i57.4545j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

So if Trump is not benefiting from Putin financially then you admit that Putin is NOT manipulating Trump?

Wait...are you claiming that I can't be manipulated by a creditor if I'm not benefiting financially by my debt to that creditor?

Or, perhaps you are claiming I can't be manipulated by someone who has evidence of my illegal financial dealings?

How does that work?
 
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