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I am going to have to agree.
I do feel much younger than my age.
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I am going to have to agree.
No I don't say reincarnated, nor resurrected. But come back to life, as his body will not be put in the grave.
It will be like somebody dying and a funeral for him - and the person setting up in the casket alive again. After being dead for three or four days.
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There is no 8th head. I don't know where you getting that. The seven heads on the beast are 7 kings. The beast himself will be the 8th king, having been of the seven. It doesn't mean 8th head. It means the 7th king becomes the 8th king/ and will become possessed by the unclean spirit of the beast now in the bottomless pit..
It would be quiet a constitutional question, if you lengthen that out to maybe three or four days.If Pres. Trump dies and 'comes back to life', then you are saying that Trump, as the 45th president suddenly becomes the 46th president when he gets off the operating table?
Really, who would think this?
Hey JTF,Hello Dadad
Are you saying the four kingdoms that came out on top are not the four being spoken of in Daniel 8?
It would be quiet a constitutional question, if you lengthen that out to maybe three or four days.
Let's hypothetical say president Trump dies, he is immediately replaced as commander in chief by the vice president. And three or four days later, Trump comes back to life. Who continues as president? The former vice president? or come back to life former President Trump?
In that case, if was determined that Trump was president, he would be the 46th President, with the vice president as commander in chief in the interim. Let's just stick to the bible, okay?
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The arch villain of the end times prophecy is more complicated than your example.
As you are leaving out the factor of an ancient person also being involved .
In Revelation 17:8a the unclean spirit of the ancient person currently in the bottomless pit called the beast - will come out and possess the end times person, for that last 42 months.
That unclean spirit becomes the eighth king, as well, by possessing the slain and come back to life end times person.
The difference between being the 7th king and the 8th king is the person is not the beast in the 7th king role, but is the beast in the 8th king role.
There are LOTS of men that look like trees and trees that look like men as we look through the glass darkly, but the shadows you see are NOT the "Catholic church" or the "Pope". Perhaps you've been lied to by people who are either not proficient, or are not trustworthy:... the woman, prostitute of Babylon, is Rome, the Catholic church led by the Pope. ...
I am trying to follow but you have too much, to know what you are talking about.Your obsession with '1' "arch villain" is preventing you from seeing how the pieces fit together.
There are at least 3 'arch villains' (Zechariah 11:8) (probably all three having a mortal head wound Zechariah 11:17)
....that Alexander DID NOT CONQUER "to the south, to the east, and toward the glorious land"; and on, and on, and on.
I am not hearing anyone make that claim. It is the little horn, not Alexander, in Daniel 8:9.
Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
The 7 heads are the foot of clay - Islamic nations.
WRONG. You can't get there from either Scripture or History, but don't let those minor inconveniences change you mind!Right: Antiochus Epiphanes
I am trying to follow but you have too much, to know what you are talking about.
What are the roles of the three arch villains, as you see it? Simplified. So we can work from there. Such as I have done for the three main roles of the arch villain of the end times as...in sequence.
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the little horn, king 7
King of Israel, the Antichrist
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the beast, king 8.
If I included the transitional roles, it would be...
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the little horn, king 7
prince who shall come, transitional role, to become the Antichrist
King of Israel, the Antichrist
the revealed man of sin, transitional role, exit being the Antichrist, to become the beast
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the beast, king 8.
... it makes more sense to say that the kingdom 'comes to life' after getting its capital destroyed. ...
I am trying to follow but you have too much, to know what you are talking about.
What are the roles of the three arch villains, as you see it? Simplified. So we can work from there. Such as I have done for the three main roles of the arch villain of the end times as...in sequence.
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the little horn, king 7
King of Israel, the Antichrist
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the beast, king 8.
If I included the transitional roles, it would be...
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the little horn, king 7
prince who shall come, transitional role, to become the Antichrist
King of Israel, the Antichrist
the revealed man of sin, transitional role, exit being the Antichrist, to become the beast
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the beast, king 8.
But we can't apply was, is not, and yet is - to a kingdom. The same type language is used in speaking of Jesus in Revelation 1:4. The language applies to a person.When Rev 17 says 'the beast that was, is not, and yet is': we know that there is a mortally head wounded individual - Zechariah 11:17; so yes that fits that statement, but if we take the 'beast' as meaning 'kingdom' instead of the beast individual, it makes more sense to say that the kingdom 'comes to life' after getting its capital destroyed.
I need from you something in identifable terms.Hope that made more sense.
Because the person is not the beast as the little horn. He goes through the role of being the King of Israel for a while, first.King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the little horn, king 7
King of Israel, the Antichrist
King of the Roman Empire, the EU, the beast, king 8.
I'm not sure why you put the little horn role before the beast.
The beast in Daniel 7 that the little horn comes out is a kingdom.The little horn comes out of the beast, the little horn is a beast from the get-go. 1st comes the dragon kingdom/ Dan 7's 4th terrible beast kingdom (Revelation 12:1-3 dragon with 7 heads, 10 horns, 7 crowns.) The little horn, the 11th horn is elected when the 10 horns become 10 kings
as in Rev 13's 7 headed, 10 horns, 10 crowns.