House Intel Committee: No Collusion

[rjs330]

The only collusion proved in any of this is the Clinton collusion. Their fake dossier from Russia was the only collusion shown to have occurred.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

And yet, The Senate Intelligence Committee is still investigating. Mueller has gotten 5 guilty pleas, 19 incitements and is still investigating.

I just don't buy it. This has Nunes fingerprints all over it, even though he was suppose to recuse himself from this.

I will wait on the Senate Intelligence Committee to come to a conclusion before saying there is nothing there.

Update: Senate Intelligence Committee: No Russian Collusion
SENATE INTEL COMMITTEE:NO RUSSIAN COLLUSION!?

 

[TLK Valentine]

They already hacked her before that.

Not thoroughly enough to please Donald, it would seem.

 

[Paulos23]

Update: Senate Intelligence Committee: No Russian Collusion
SENATE INTEL COMMITTEE:NO RUSSIAN COLLUSION!?

Collusion is not a crime. The question is, did people in Trumps orbit associate with the Russians and how far up the chain does it go. If you read the articles you linked you would see it still doesn't good for Trump. The report, as the very least, would call into question Trumps judgement on who he works with.

 

[rjs330]

Collusion is not a crime. The question is, did people in Trumps orbit associate with the Russians and how far up the chain does it go. If you read the articles you linked you would see it still doesn't good for Trump. The report, as the very least, would call into question Trumps judgement on who he works with.

Associating with Russians is also not a crime.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Associating with Russians is also not a crime.

I think it should be a crime to do an investigation to look for a crime. This was clearly a witch hunt.

 

[Paulos23]

Associating with Russians is also not a crime.

But for us, out of the country influences in an election is a problem. With so many members of the election and staff members associating with Russians in legal and illegal ways, there is something there, even if it is just poor judgement, to be reported.

 

[whatbogsends]

Associating with Russians is also not a crime.

Lying about those associations on government clearance forms and under oath in front of Congress is.

 

[whatbogsends]

I think it should be a crime to do an investigation to look for a crime. This was clearly a witch hunt.

Criminals would love this policy.

Should we only be allowed to investigate criminals who have publicly proclaimed their guilt?

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Criminals would love this policy.

Should we only be allowed to investigate criminals who have publicly proclaimed their guilt?

No, we should only investigate a crime if a crime actually happened. You are not supposed to investigate an innocent person to look for crimes.

 

[bhsmte]

This is the senate investigation, not muellers. We dontnknow what mueller has and his group has been tight lipped, which is very rare for washington.

With that said, would not surprise me if no direct evidence is discovered that supports a criminal conspiracy between russia and the trump campaign. Again, collusion is a really meaningless term, when it comes to crimes being committed.

If mueller has the goods on trump, it will be more related to covering up embarrassing actions and or financial related crimes.

 

[bhsmte]

No, we should only investigate a crime if a crime actually happened. You are not supposed to investigate an innocent person to look for crimes.

Not really. You investigate crimes with probable cause. The investigation may turn out that no crime was committed.

 

[98cwitr]

Millions of tax dollars wasted just to come up empty handed...SMH

 

[Tinker Grey]

Millions of tax dollars wasted just to come up empty handed...SMH

37 indictments and 5 plea deals isn't "empty handed": https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

 

[98cwitr]

37 indictments and 5 plea deals isn't "empty handed": https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

I hear you, and true, I'm glad justice is served in the cases of the article. The fact remains that the "spark" of this was to pin Russian collusion on Trump, and that hasn't come to any sort of fruition. So I stand by what I said. After all, it's the topic of the OP.

 

[Go Braves]

37 indictments and 5 plea deals isn't "empty handed": https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

On top of that, on account of Manafort having to surrender so much money as part of his plea, the investigation has made money. Taxpayer money hasn't been wasted.

 

[rjs330]

But for us, out of the country influences in an election is a problem. With so many members of the election and staff members associating with Russians in legal and illegal ways, there is something there, even if it is just poor judgement, to be reported.

Where are you going to find people on either side who do not have out of country experiences or business dealings? Remember this is a world wide economy now. If you do any business these days you do business out of country.

Clinton did business with the Russians. At some point we have to wake up to reality.

 

[rjs330]

Lying about those associations on government clearance forms and under oath in front of Congress is.

Yes it is and people are in trouble for that. And they should be.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

House Intel Committee comes up empty handed and the response is:

And yet, The Senate Intelligence Committee is still investigating. Mueller has gotten 5 guilty pleas, 19 incitements and is still investigating.

I just don't buy it. This has Nunes fingerprints all over it, even though he was suppose to recuse himself from this.

I will wait on the Senate Intelligence Committee to come to a conclusion before saying there is nothing there.

Then Senate Intel Committee comes up empty handed and the response is:

This is the senate investigation, not muellers. We dontnknow what mueller has and his group has been tight lipped, which is very rare for washington.

With that said, would not surprise me if no direct evidence is discovered that supports a criminal conspiracy between russia and the trump campaign. Again, collusion is a really meaningless term, when it comes to crimes being committed.

If mueller has the goods on trump, it will be more related to covering up embarrassing actions and or financial related crimes.

Next, Muller investigation comes up empty handed and the response will be

 

[EpiscipalMe]

The chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee says they aren’t done investigating yet:
“On Tuesday, Burr repeated to reporters that “we don’t have any” evidence of collusion. Asked whether the committee’s investigation exonerated Trump, Burr said: “Just saying what factually we’ve found to date. We haven’t finished our investigation.””
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a5b113ecd3c_story.html?utm_term=.4a4b6abe0b45

Maybe there is something, maybe there isn’t. However, seems premature to be celebrating when both Mueller and the Senate are still investigating.