We all believe that God gets glory from saving people, but does He get glory from condemning people?
We all believe that God gets glory from saving people, but does He get glory from condemning people?
God is not willing that any one should perish but that all men would be saved.We all believe that God gets glory from saving people, but does He get glory from condemning people?
Yes.We all believe that God gets glory from saving people, but does He get glory from condemning people?
I keep seeing people asking questions assuming validity to the assumptions within the question. We don't have, on this temporal plane, the knowledge or understanding to ask your question, knowing what we are saying.We all believe that God gets glory from saving people, but does He get glory from condemning people?
Whoever believes in Jesus Christ is NOT condemned.Yes.
Right. But that’s not the topic.Whoever believes in Jesus Christ is NOT condemned.
God created us because He wants a family...I keep seeing people asking questions assuming validity to the assumptions within the question. We don't have, on this temporal plane, the knowledge or understanding to ask your question, knowing what we are saying.
Specifically, your question assumes that what we see is what God is doing, or that our perspective is valid. We see he created people that whether he meant it to turn out this way or not, end up in one of two camps. We don't see the REASON why he did so, so we ignore the reason, and then question his actions.
While I could argue did he make them for the purpose of destruction (see the Potter and the Clay discourse), I have to remark that this whole business we call Creation, while primarily for his own Glory, was done for his glory by what he is making/ has made. He is making the Bride of Christ. If he was not, there would be no reason to create. Everything here that is NOT the Bride of Christ is made for the purpose of producing that Bride of Christ. And when she has been completed, this whole business will be rolled up like a scroll, and "the old way of things" will be no more. Behold, the new has come. The whole creation waits in eager anticipation for the sons of God to be revealed.
Those that he condemns are part of what it took to make us. I don't say he created them for the purpose of condemnation, but for the purpose of constructing us --his Particular Creation.
Having no pleasure is not the same thing as receiving no glory."11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"
So is it, then, also possible that God has no pleasure in receiving Glory?Having no pleasure is not the same thing as receiving no glory.
To delight in doing, and receiving glory from, are not one in the same. In the passage you mention, it states that we are to glory in the understand and knowledge of God........that he delights in Judgement....The OT tells how He delights in several things, among them is - judgment.
See Jeremiah 9:24.
does He get glory from condemning people?
I don’t think that’s true. The glory comes in the justice that is served.So is it, then, also possible that God has no pleasure in receiving Glory?
Since:
I have no pleasure in destruction of wicked.
The destruction of the wick gives me glory.
therefore I have no pleasure in glory......at least in some cases?
No they don’t.They condemn themselves.
M-Bob