Eschatology for dummies :)

[David Kent]

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation [the end times nation of Israel] bringing forth the fruits thereof.

I see you have added to scripture when you said "[the end times nation of Israel]"

 

[David Kent]

[the Jews, the end times nation of Israel]

I see you are also adding to the words of scripture here.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

When do you say Jesus took the Kingdom from them?
Or do you believe that is yet to happen?
Are we still waiting from the Kingdom to be taken from the 1st Century Jewish Leaders?

I'm not.........perhaps the Jews still are.

We know these guys are no longer around.........

Is the "GEHENNA" of Matt 23:33 the "LAKE OF FIRE" in Revelation? Poll thread

Mat 3:7
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers!
Who warned you to flee from the being about wrath?
Luke 3:7
Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him, “Brood of vipers!
Who warned you to flee from the being about wrath?

Mat 23:33
“Serpents, brood of vipers!
How can you escape the condemnation of the Gehenna?

John 3:36
“The one believing into the Son, is having life age-during;
the yet one being stubborn to the Son not shall be seeing life,
but the wrath of the GOD is remaining on him.”

Rom 9:22
What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known,
endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,

Revelation 6:
16 - and they say to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
17 - “For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

 

[Douggg]

I see you have added to scripture when you said "[the end times nation of Israel]"

It was my commentary. I was not trying to add anything to the actual text.

 

[parousia70]

It was my commentary. I was not trying to add anything to the actual text.

Well, according to the "commentary" of the Apostle Paul, the 1st century Nation of Israel WAS the "End times Nation of Israel" (1 Corinthians 10:11)

When faced with choosing which of these two polar opposite commentaries are true and correct, that of the Infallibly inspired 1st-century Apostle Paul, and that of random, 21st-century fallible internet dude Douggg, my money is on the Apostle, every time.

 

[Douggg]

Well, according to the "commentary" of the Apostle Paul, the 1st century Nation of Israel WAS the "End times Nation of Israel" (1 Corinthians 10:11)

When faced with choosing which of these two polar opposite commentaries are true and correct, that of the Infallibly inspired 1st-century Apostle Paul, and that of random, 21st-century fallible internet dude Douggg, my money is on the Apostle, every time.

You are making no sense.

Israel is a nation again by the Will of God. You need to read Ezekiel 39:21-29, Jesus Himself speaking.

28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

 

[parousia70]

You are making no sense.

Paul is making no sense to you?
1 Corinthians 10:11
11 Now these things happened unto them [OT Prophets] by way of example; and they were written for our [Paul and His contemporaries'] admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

Was Paul Mistaken?
Did he Lie?
what say you about this passage?
True? False?

You appear to be saying "false" Paul erred.

Care to clarify?

Israel is a nation again by the Will of God.

All the prophecies about the dispersion and return of the Jews to their own land were fulfilled at the end the Babylonian Captivity in 457 B.C.,— not 1948 when the State of Israel was formed.

"In all your dwelling places the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places desolate . . . ye shall be scattered among the countries . . . among the nations whither they shall be carried captives . . . all the house of Israel shall remove and go into captivity . . . I will scatter them among the nations" (Ezekiel ch. 6–12).

This was the Diaspora. . . . And now the re-gathering of the Jews to their own land 70 years later:

"For thus saith the Lord, that after 70 years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you . . . and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations . . . and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive" (Jeremiah. 29: 10-14).

Not one single verse in the Old Testament, or New, written after the Babylonian Captivity mentions any other dispersion and re-gathering of the Jews from/to the geographic boundaries of earthly Israel.

Not even ONE.

And even if there were, That a 20th century UN fiat declared the land of Palestine be given to Modern day Multi-ethnic Secularists who purport to be followers of the post-Christian, man made religion of the Babylonian Talmud, does not equate to "God prophetically Bringing the Hebrew people back to Israel" for several requirements are not met.

Here's just a few:
1) The people there are not Hebrews nor are they descended from Hebrews
2) They do not Follow Moses or Practice Biblical Judaism in any way
3) Modern Israel is a Secular Democracy, not a Biblical Theocracy

No matter how much you dress up a Pig to look like a cow, it's Never going to be a cow.

 

[Douggg]

You appear to be saying "false" Paul erred.

Care to clarify?

You are the one who reference Paul in 1Corhinthians10:11. You should be the one explaining how you think that negates Ezekiel 39:21-29.

All the prophecies about the dispersion and return of the Jews to their own land were fulfilled at the end the Babylonian Captivity in 457 B.C.,— not 1948 when the State of Israel was formed.

Ezekiel 38/39 has not taken place yet. Gog/Magog is end times.

You can not escape Ezekiel 39:21-29.

Not one single verse in the Old Testament, or New, written after the Babylonian Captivity mentions any other dispersion and re-gathering of the Jews from/to the geographic boundaries of earthly Israel.

Not even ONE.

You are making no sense. Ezekiel 39:21-29 is Jesus Himself speaking after He has returned to earth following Armageddon in Ezekiel 39:17-20. It is not talking about the return from Babylon. It is end times.

Verse 28 corresponds to Matthew 24:31.

27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;

28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

 

[David Kent]

Not one single verse in the Old Testament, or New, written after the Babylonian Captivity mentions any other dispersion and re-gathering of the Jews from/to the geographic boundaries of earthly Israel.

Not even ONE.

Not sure about that,
They were to be led away captive into all nations until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

• Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

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[parousia70]

Not sure about that,
They were to be led away captive into all nations until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

• Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

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The time of Gentile Trampling of the city was ordained to end exactly 42 Months after it began. (Revelation 11:2)

If more than 42 months have passed, then we know the times of the Gentiles has passed as well.

 

[parousia70]

You are the one who reference Paul in 1Corhinthians10:11. You should be the one explaining how you think that negates Ezekiel 39:21-29.

It was a simple question Dougggg
Were Paul and His contemporaries living at the ends of the Ages (1 Cor 10:11), in the Last Days(Hebrews 1:1-2, Acts 2:17) indeed the Last Hour(1 John 2:18)?

Or were they NOT?

They testified they were... you seem to claim they were wrong to do so.

Please clarify.

 

[David Kent]

The time of Gentile Trampling of the city was ordained to end exactly 42 Months after it began. (Revelation 11:2)

If more than 42 months have passed, then we know the times of the Gentiles has passed as well.

The city in Revelation 11, is symbolic referring to the church being trodden down by the papcy, 42 months = 1260 days or years.

 

[claninja]

You are making no sense. Ezekiel 39:21-29 is Jesus Himself speaking after He has returned to earth following Armageddon in Ezekiel 39:17-20. It is not talking about the return from Babylon. It is end times.

I disagree Douggg

Ezekiel 39:25 Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says: Now I will restore Jacob from captivitye

Notice Psalm 85:1, which was written AFTER Israel returned from Babylonian captivity, states "you restored Jacob from captivity". the Hebrew verb for "restored" is in the perfect tense, meaning completed. Thus it shows that the author of psalm 85 believed they had been restored from captivity.

Psalm 85:1 You showed favor to Your land, O LORD; You restored Jacob from captivity.

This would mean that Ezkiel 39:25 was fulfilled when Israel returned from Babylonian captivity.

Additionally, Ezekiel 39 ends with the outpouring of the spirit. The spirit was poured out 2000 years ago (Acts 2).
Ezekiel 39:29 I will no longer hide My face from them, for I will pour out My Spirit on the house of Israel,’ declares the Lord GOD

Based on these pieces of evidence, I would disagree that Ezekiel 39:21-29 is future to us.

27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;

Douggg, there is no Hebrew word for "again" in Ezekiel 39:27, while it can mean repetition, in this case it is not a repeating of returning a 2nd time from exile.

when I have brought them back from the peoples and gathered them from their enemies’ lands, and through them have vindicated my holiness in the sight of many nations

28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

Let's not forget that not all of Israel is Israel

Let's look at a little Hebrew parallelism for some clarity: assembling ALL of Jacob = gathering the remnant of Israel

Micah 2:12 will surely assemble all of you, O Jacob; I will gather the remnant of Israel;

So by God gathering his chosen remnant, he gathered ALL of Israel, for not all of Israel is Israel.

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

God poured out his spirit upon Israel 2000 years ago

Acts 2:3-5 And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven

 

[parousia70]

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

 

[Douggg]

I disagree Douggg

Ezekiel 39:25 Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says: Now I will restore Jacob from captivitye

Notice Psalm 85:1, which was written AFTER Israel returned from Babylonian captivity, states "you restored Jacob from captivity". the Hebrew verb for "restored" is in the perfect tense, meaning completed. Thus it shows that the author of psalm 85 believed they had been restored from captivity.

Psalm 85:1 You showed favor to Your land, O LORD; You restored Jacob from captivity.

This would mean that Ezkiel 39:25 was fulfilled when Israel returned from Babylonian captivity.

Additionally, Ezekiel 39 ends with the outpouring of the spirit. The spirit was poured out 2000 years ago (Acts 2).
Ezekiel 39:29 I will no longer hide My face from them, for I will pour out My Spirit on the house of Israel,’ declares the Lord GOD

Based on these pieces of evidence, I would disagree that Ezekiel 39:21-29 is future to us.




Douggg, there is no Hebrew word for "again" in Ezekiel 39:27, while it can mean repetition, in this case it is not a repeating of returning a 2nd time from exile.

when I have brought them back from the peoples and gathered them from their enemies’ lands, and through them have vindicated my holiness in the sight of many nations



Let's not forget that not all of Israel is Israel

Let's look at a little Hebrew parallelism for some clarity: assembling ALL of Jacob = gathering the remnant of Israel

Micah 2:12 will surely assemble all of you, O Jacob; I will gather the remnant of Israel;

So by God gathering his chosen remnant, he gathered ALL of Israel, for not all of Israel is Israel.



God poured out his spirit upon Israel 2000 years ago

Acts 2:3-5 And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven

claninja, Ezekiel 39 is a continuation of Ezekiel 38.

In Ezekiel 38, Gog/Magog is in the latter years. Ezekiel 38/39 is end times, not the return from Babylon.

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Ezekiel 39:21-29 is Jesus Himself speaking following the destruction of the armies gathered to make war on him in Ezekiel 39:17-20 corresponding to Revelation 19:17-18.

 

[claninja]

claninja, Ezekiel 39 is a continuation of Ezekiel 38.

I agree

In Ezekiel 38, Gog/Magog is in the latter years. Ezekiel 38/39 is end times, not the return from Babylon.

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

I see that Gog would come into the land in the "latter years" in order to attack God's people, but where does it say Israel would return to the land in the "latter years"?

Ezekiel 39:21-29 is Jesus Himself speaking following the destruction of the armies gathered to make war on him

Then you'll have to explain why the inspired author of Psalm 85 was wrong or that Psalm 85:1 doesn't really mean that God "restored" Jacob from captivity.

Ezekiel 39:25 Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says: Now I will restore Jacob from captivitye

Notice Psalm 85:1, which was written AFTER Israel returned from Babylonian captivity, states "you restored Jacob from captivity". the Hebrew verb for "restored" is in the perfect tense, meaning completed. Thus it shows that the author of psalm 85 believed they had been restored from captivity.

Psalm 85:1 You showed favor to Your land, O LORD; You restored Jacob from captivity.

This would mean that Ezkiel 39:25 was fulfilled when Israel returned from Babylonian captivity.


Additionally, Peter states that the spirit was poured out at Pentecost "in the last days". So you'll have to show me where in the NT that the apostles believed there would be another outpouring of the spirit in "another last days".

Acts 2:15-17 For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day. But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel: ‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh,

Otherwise we can clearly see that the end of Ezekiel 39 was fulfilled at Pentecost.

Ezekiel 39:29 And I will not hide my face anymore from them, when I pour out my Spirit upon the house of Israel, declares the Lord God.”

Ezekiel 39:17-20 corresponding to Revelation 19:17-18.

I agree with you here. And I would add that the Gog/Magog war is also mentioned in Revelation 20

Ezekiel 38:15-16 You will come from your place out of the uttermost parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great host, a mighty army. You will come up against my people Israel, like a cloud covering the land. In the latter days I will bring you against my land, that the nations may know me, when through you, O Gog, I vindicate my holiness before their eyes.

Revelation 20:7-9 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the land and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city.

So what does this tell us? It tells us the Ezekiel 39 may not be in Chronological order.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

parousia70 said: ↑
The time of Gentile Trampling of the city was ordained to end exactly 42 Months after it began. (Revelation 11:2)

If more than 42 months have passed, then we know the times of the Gentiles has passed as well.

The city in Revelation 11, is symbolic referring to the church being trodden down by the papcy, 42 months = 1260 days or years.

Are you saying that with a straight face.....
Let's look at that scenario:

John 11:48
"If ever we may be letting Him thus, all shall be believing into Him,
and shall be coming the Romans/Papacy and shall be taking away of Us/Church
and the Place and the Nation/World."

Luke 21:24
And they/Church shall be falling to mouth of sword and shall be being led captive into all the nations/world.
And Jerusalem/Church shall be being trodden<3961> by nations/Papacy until which may be being filled times of nations/Papacy/Church.
[Deuteronomy 28:68/Reve 11:2/13:10]

Revelation 11:
1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary<3485> of the God and the Altar and those worshiping in it
2 and the Court/fold<833> without of the Sanctuary, be casting-out!<1544> out-side, and no it thou should be measuring, that it was given to the nations/Papacy
and the holy City/Church they/Papacy shall be treading<3961> forty two months.

Revelation 13:10
If any to-captivity into captivity is going away.
If any in sword to be killed, is binding him in sword to be killed.
Here is the endurance and the faith of the Saints/Church..

 

[Douggg]

This would mean that Ezkiel 39:25 was fulfilled when Israel returned from Babylonian captivity.

You were citing Psalms 85:1.
Psalms 85 is looking way into the future in spite of the tense. If you go to Pslams 2:6-7, it is written the same way, but at the time it was written is looking way into the future to the end times.


Ezekiel 39:25 is still future. Ezekiel 39:28, is the bringing back all of the house of Israel to the land of Israel, when Jesus returns. It corresponds to Matthew 24:31.

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there..

I see that Gog would come into the land in the "latter years" in order to attack God's people, but where does it say Israel would return to the land in the "latter years"?

Ezekiel 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes

Otherwise we can clearly see that the end of Ezekiel 39 was fulfilled at Pentecost.

No, Ezekiel 39:29 is after Jesus has returned as Jesus Himself in speaking in Ezekiel 39:21-29.

Revelation 20:7-9 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the land and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city.

So what does this tell us? It tells us the Ezekiel 39 may not be in Chronological order.

It been shown countless times at this forum that Gog/Magog of Ezekiel 38/39 is not Satan's final rebellion in Revelation 20:7-9. It is a waste of time to keep going over it.

 

[David Kent]

Revelation 11:
1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary<3485> of the God and the Altar and those worshiping in it
2 and the Court/fold<833> without of the Sanctuary, be casting-out!<1544> out-side, and no it thou should be measuring, that it was given to the nations/Papacy
and the holy City/Church they/Papacy shall be treading<3961> forty two months.

Yes that is the reformation teaching. Revelation 10 is a graphic description of the reformation. At the time the reformers looked back to see if their teaching was a continuation of previous christian teaching. At the Diet of Worms, Ltuuer was accused of being a Hussite which he denied, but then he realisedd that he didn't know what Huss taught, so went to the University Library and read up on Huss, then the next day he declared that he was a Hussite, the casting out of the outer court was when Luther excommunicated the pope and as such all his followers.

Note that the two witnesses are churches.

 

[David Kent]

The book, Dispensational Truth, by Clarence Larking presents a number of charts which are loved by many dispensationalists. Here is an exceprt from the book.;
Clarence Larkin’s Charts

Clarence Larkin’s Charts : The theology of Ribera, by Larkin’s own admission.



By Robert Caringola



After thirty years of work, the late Clarence Larkin (1850 – 1924, an American Baptist Pastor) published a work which many in the Futurist School of eschatology refer to as “the dispensationalists’ second bible” and “a standard authority on dispensationalism.” The book is entitled Dispensational Truth. It is touted by some as the greatest book on bible prophecy in the world! It contains over 115 charts, maps and woodcuts. These are referenced today by a myriad of prophecy teachers. But, I wonder how many of these so-called teachers have read Larkin’s admission of cartooning Francisco Ribera’s catholic counter-reformation prophetic interpretation.

This article is not an explanation of the errors of dispensationalism. Space does not allow for a proper refutation of the Futurist School or a defense of the Protestant Historical School (Historicism). It will simply be, for the most part, the words of Larkin himself. These are found on page 5 of his book, Forty-Sixth Printing. Some of the other printings have it on page 4.

“The glory of a good thing is that it flows to others” Martin Luther. Conversely, the horror of a bad thing is that it not only flows but, at times, floods and drowns. How many, today, are drowning in the tide of dispensational teachings? The book Dispensational Truth furthered the rushing current of futuristic eschatology - Rome’s poisonous waters!

Now, let us read Larkin’s affirmation of the Jesuit origins of Preterism and Futurism. He also identifies the “secret of the martyr heroism,” known as Historicism.

I have added bold emphasis where I felt appropriate.

The “Preterist School” originated with the Jesuit Alcazar. His view was first put forth as a complete scheme in his work on the Apocalypse, published in A.D.1614. It limits the scope of the apocalypse to the events of the Apostle John’s life, and affirms that the whole prophecy was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus and the subsequent fall of the persecuting Roman Empire, thus making the Emperor Nero the “Antichrist.” The purpose of the scheme was transparent, it was to relieve the Papal Church from the stigma of being called the “Harlot Church” and the Pope from being called the Antichrist…”

The “Historical School”. . . interprets the Apocalypse as a series of prophecies predicting the events that were to happen in the world and in the Church from John’s day to the end of time. The advocates of the School interpret the symbols of the Book of Revelation as referring to certain historical events that have and are happening in the world. They claim that “Antichrist” is a “System” rather than a “Person,” and is represented by the Harlot Church of Rome. They interpret the “Time Element” in the Book on the “Year Day Scale.” This school has had some very able and ingenious advocates. This view, like the preceding was unknown to the early church. It appeared about the middle of the Twelfth Century, and was systematized in the beginning of the Third Century by the Abbot Joachim. Subsequently it was adopted and applied to the Pope by the forerunners and leaders of the Reformation, and may be said to have reached its zenith in Mr. Elliott’s “Horae Apocalypticae.” It is frequently called the Protestant interpretation because it regards Popery as exhausting all that has been predicted of the Antichristian power. It was a powerful and formidable weapon in the hands of the leaders of the Reformation, and the conviction of its truthfulness nerved them to “love not their lives unto the death.” It was the secret of the martyr heroism of the Sixteenth Century.

The “Futurist School” interprets the language of the Apocalypse “literally,” except such symbols as are named as such and hold that the whole of the Book, from the end of the third chapter, is yet “future” and unfulfilled, and that the greater part of the Book, from the beginning of chapter six to the end of chapter nineteen, describes what shall come to pass during the last week of “Daniel’s Seventy Weeks.” . . . In its present form it may be said to have originated at the end of the Sixteenth Century, with the Jesuit Ribera, who actuated by the same motive as the Jesuit Alcazar, sought to rid the Papacy of the stigma of being called the “Antichrist,” and so referred the prophecies of the Apocalypse to the distant future. This view was accepted by the Roman Catholic Church and was for a long time confined to it, but, strange to say, it has wonderfully revived since the beginning of the Nineteenth Century, and among Protestants. . . ., The “Futurist” interpretation of scripture is the one employed in this book.

Clarence Larkin

Well, there you have it. Larkin is ecstatic because the rejected prophetic counter-scheme manipulations of the Jesuit Ribera have been “wonderfully revived.”






I have written a book entitled Seventy Weeks, The Historical Alternative. In this book, I address, in modest detail, much of the information presented by Larkin. If you want to know more about these schools of thought, I encourage you to read it. In summation, it is the story of the only Messianic Divine time-measure recorded in Holy Writ – Daniel’s Seventy Weeks. The truth of its interpretation begins with a journey back to the Protestant Reformation. It was during this period of Church history that this great prophecy’s commonly understood fulfillment was hermeneutically attacked and distorted. The confusing results of this theological assault are with us to this day. Clarence Larkin’s book Dispensational Truth is a classic example. He teaches that a seven-year tribulation period is yet to come.

What was this doctrinal assault’s ultimate purpose? Who first taught it? Larkin already told you – Ribera!

Why was this new interpretation of Daniel Chapter Nine rejected by scholastic Protestant clergy for centuries? Who were its authors trying to protect? Again, Larkin told you – the Papacy and its identified label - “Antichrist.”

In my book, you’ll have these and many more questions answered. After reading, you will never again, in good conscience, be able to teach the charts of Larkin.

I contend with no man’s person, only that which pertain to the words of truth.

Seventy Weeks the Historical Alternative can be ordered from:

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