Are the healing ministries of Jesus and the apostles analogous to deaconal and mercy ministries of the church?
No.Are the healing ministries of Jesus and the apostles analogous to deaconal and mercy ministries of the church?
Well, maybe good and right vs other ? (I don't think that's what you were asking though).Hm. No analogy at all? Why not?
It is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. You or I could be gifted with it.Are the healing ministries of Jesus and the apostles analogous to deaconal and mercy ministries of the church?
Interesting way to look at it, actually. I've thought about it as analogous (or a glimpse) to the consummation of the kingdom when all things will be restored, including our bodies.
It is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. You or I could be gifted with it.
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Believe. (noticed you just now posted you don't , though, so that settles that, eh? )But since healing was an important part of Jesus' and the apostles' ministry, and this kind of healing power does not seem to be available to us today, we've got to figure out what to do with these texts.
When Ekklesia lay down their lives for one another DAILY, taking care of each other and looking out for each other DAILY..... a lot may be accomplished, Yahweh Willing.Our powers may not be miraculous, but cannot they be used in an analogous way?
When Ekklesia lay down their lives for one another DAILY, taking care of each other and looking out for each other DAILY..... a lot may be accomplished, Yahweh Willing.
I certainly agree with that, but I don't believe that analogy is the right word here. I would say that it is a foretaste of kingdom consummation.
Believe. (noticed you just now posted you don't , though, so that settles that, eh? )
True, it is a glimpse or foretaste.
I believe God chooses very humble people so they do not boast. It is a pretty rare gift however having hands laid upon you by God fearing Elders (three) is also scriptural.This position is that the same healing powers which were available to the disciples are available to the church today and that no analogy is necessary. I don't agree with this, but I do see there are many who take this approach.
This position is that the same healing powers which were available to the disciples are available to the church today and that no analogy is necessary. I don't agree with this
(Read Psalms 119 verses 1 to 3. )I do believe that the apostles had authority to heal.
(3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.)When Ekklesia lay down their lives for one another DAILY, taking care of each other and looking out for each other DAILY..... a lot may be accomplished, Yahweh Willing.
Sounds like an analogy.
I agree that such a laying on of hands is Scriptural. But it seems to have a different level of power and authority than the apostles had.I believe God chooses very humble people so they do not boast. It is a pretty rare gift however having hands laid upon you by God fearing Elders (three) is also scriptural.
I think the Apostle Paul (and others) were NOT humble, until Yahweh through Jesus made them humble - humbled them, and they were willing to be humbled, and always to obey Jesus.I believe God chooses very humble people so they do not boast. It is a pretty rare gift however having hands laid upon you by God fearing Elders (three) is also scriptural.
Read a few of the testimonies about Smith Wigglesworth if you get the chance to...I agree that such a laying on of hands is Scriptural. But it seems to have a different level of power and authority than the apostles had.
Do you think the analogy to mercy ministries might be an appropriate use of these Scriptures?
I don't know.
I am inclined to only look at it as different functions within the same body among the members. It was the apostles who did miracles and wonders, for their ministry, and it is the officers of the church to build up and serve the other needs in the church and local communities. I don't parallel them, but see them as exercising in the area of their ministry.
I suppose one can be understood as analogous over the other, but I don't know what to say about it at the moment.