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I'm sorry if I offended in anyway, but, I'm trying to figure out if I'm wasting my time with certain people, mainly those of Law and works and their own will, ect...?
I can assure you I'm not offended in any way. I do have some convictions along those lines because God gets the glory for salvation period. Other then that, I've seen nothing in your post or with your questions that would give me a reason to worry, let alone to be offended.
How very hardheaded some of them are and sometimes strongly rejecting true Grace and Mercy and Love sometimes, and declare those truly of it their enemies, say they are wrong, blasphemers, sinners, ect, and sometimes it even leads to persecution of them, those that are "truly of it", from them that think and insist they are truly of it, and the others are not, ect...
I'm a little puzzled, I don't know of a revocable salvation, I only know the mercy and grace of God. Perhaps there are those better versed in theology that can find such a thing, but I've never seen it in the New Testament. My contention is simply this, and I think I made that clear, if you can lose salvation you can only lose it once.
And this is because some say that those who have "fallen away" in NT times, were Jews that converted to Christianity, but then went back to works of Law, (still professing to a Christian or not, I do not know...?) and they were trying to influence or teach other Christians to do or being doing the same thing, works of Law, to be saved, ect, and Paul, I think said, to "get rid of these ones" basically, cast them out, do not associate with them, ect, they have "fallen away" ect... That this message was in direct opposition to the Gospel of Grace and is a false gospel, ect...
God Bless!
Paul was certainly very strict about fellowshiping with certain individuals who were involved in gross immorality and even blasphemy. Paul described it as turning them over to the power of Satan, the destruction of the flesh to save the soul. I'm not sure what that includes but I don't want to be that guy, but I don't think we are talking about perdition but rather discipline.
Falling away is a much different thing, if you fall away from the faith you are lost forever. I don't know how to make it any clearer then that.
Grace and peace,
Mark
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