Yellow vests and the little horn

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In Europe, mainly in France, but in other parts as well, there is general uprising going on against globalism, imigration, etc. in favor of nationalism.

Somewhere along the line, the EU government is going to reorganize to a ten leader form of govenment, with one leader over them - the little horn.

Is this the start? Well, we don't know, but I keep an eye on Europe. You tube has a lot of videos, if you search "yellow vests".
 

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"gilets jaunes" can also be translated as "yellow jackets" (a reference to a species of wasp), an allusion to the stinging locusts of Revelation 9:10. (with locusts being the demonically inspired 'people of the prince to come' (Daniel 9:26).

So, these are definitely a locust prototype or a movement that will be ramped up in the near future.
 
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You think the EU has the stomach for a nuclear war with the state of Israel?
Following Gog/Magog, the little horn and his army will occupy all of the (former) mulsim countries, under the guise of being peace keeper. He will not be heading that direction to attack Israel. The Jews will perceive him to be the messiah.

The Jews believe one of the traits of the messiah is that he fights the battles of God in defending Israel. It is one of the teachings of the Rambam.
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Following Gog/Magog, the little horn and his army will occupy all of the (former) mulsim countries, under the guise of being peace keeper. He will not be heading that direction to attack Israel. The Jews will perceive him to be the messiah.

The Jews believe one of the traits of the messiah is that he fights the battles of God in defending Israel. It is one of the teachings of the Rambam.
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Right now, we are in the period of the top upper right stage of my chart developing.
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So you believe the little horn who kills the saints in israrl will claim to be christ?
And you believe the israrlis will believe him?

Do you believe the israrlis will believe he is christ because he kills christians?

What makes you think the little horn will claim to be christ while killing christians?
 
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So you believe the little horn who kills the saints in israrl will claim to be christ?
And you believe the israrlis will believe him?

Do you believe the israrlis will believe he is christ because he kills christians?

What makes you think the little horn will claim to be christ while killing christians?
It is a matter of timing, in regards to what the person does.

He himself doesn't claim to be "christ" using that term, because that term is associated with Jesus. The person will have a tremendous ego, so when the Jews embrace him as the messiah, mashiash if you were Jewish Judaism 101: Mashiach: The Messiah , pronounced meh-she-ah, he will picture himself to be so.

Follow the progression of the person on my chart. When he commits the transgression of desolation act, having being in the role of being the King of Israel for around three years - it is then, because the Jews reject him from continuing as their King, that he begins to persecute them.

And when he shortly thereafter becomes the beast, he will persecute and kill anyone who doesn't comply with his claim of being God.
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Obviously you dont understand brexit or politics.
Who does? Really?

Yellow VESTS (not jackets, cuz they gots no sleeves) are protesting against what can be referred to as the Kalergi plan.
We (at least the people who are awake) are fed up with the globalist elites, who try to ruin our countries.
I hope it's not too late for Europe..
 
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Obviously you dont understand brexit or politics.
I know that Teresa May cut a bad deal to get the brexit from the EU, and after surviving a vote of confidence, went to the EU to seek concessions and Angela Merkel told her no concessions - according to Nigel Farage, and now the UK is trapped in EU law.

So the whole thing is a mess and even Nigel Farage said that it is looking stronger that there will be a re-vote on brexit.

There are yellow vests in London, too. Go to you tube.

 
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In Europe, mainly in France, but in other parts as well, there is general uprising going on against globalism, imigration, etc. in favor of nationalism.

Somewhere along the line, the EU government is going to reorganize to a ten leader form of govenment, with one leader over them - the little horn.

Is this the start? Well, we don't know, but I keep an eye on Europe. You tube has a lot of videos, if you search "yellow vests".
Good thought process here brother.....I don't agree that Israel accepts this European Beast as their King like you do but we get to the same point in pretty much the same manner. If you read some of my posts from the last 2 years you will see that whilst everyone else (or many) were saying Europe was going to be taken over like a Trojan horse via the migration, plus the ISIS coalition, I was saying that there is going to be a BACKLASH by the European public on this issue and the masses were going to start electing center right politicians on this issue, so much so that leftists seeing the handwriting on the wall will go along with this movement, thus you get a "NATIONALIST EUROPEAN UNION" effect on the coalition. Thus they will eventually wipe out Islam.

Now as per the Statue, let me run something by you that I haven't bought into, I think Daniel 2:43 (mixing with the seed of men) means that the end times men mix with Dmonic rule, and that is why the base is weak.....But below is the alternate view going around in many circles.

Dan. 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. 41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Some put this theory forth. The Fourth Kingdom is strong when its Rome. Then it fractures (the Beast is no more, it suffered a Mortal Wound) but the Kingdom lingers with many powerful nations such as Span, England and France etc. etc.

But even though they try to marry Royals to Royals 10 Kingdoms of the region (they shall mingle themselves (10 toes) with the seed of men meaning they try to create a super power as in days gone by via marrying Royals to Royals but it never seems to work out (the shall not cleave to one another) until the Church is Raptured, then it is allowed. Thus they are not a POWER like Rome was in that they ARE MANY and thus place a check on each other in a way. Just imagine if in 1750 England, France and Spain had of been able to join forces. it would have been a superpower.

So the old Fourth Beast was partly strong and partly broken !!

I think it's plausible, that is speaking about the Fourth Beast going into hibernation mode as per being a Beast and a superpower. More study is needed.
 
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Good thought process here brother.....I don't agree that Israel accepts this European Beast as their King like you do but we get to the same point in pretty much the same manner. If you read some of my posts from the last 2 years you will see that whilst everyone else (or many) were saying Europe was going to be taken over like a Trojan horse via the migration, plus the ISIS coalition, I was saying that there is going to be a BACKLASH by the European public on this issue and the masses were going to start electing center right politicians on this issue, so much so that leftists seeing the handwriting on the wall will go along with this movement, thus you get a "NATIONALIST EUROPEAN UNION" effect on the coalition. Thus they will eventually wipe out Islam.

Now as per the Statue, let me run something by you that I haven't bought into, I think Daniel 2:43 (mixing with the seed of men) means that the end times men mix with Dmonic rule, and that is why the base is weak.....But below is the alternate view going around in many circles.

Dan. 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. 41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Some put this theory forth. The Fourth Kingdom is strong when its Rome. Then it fractures (the Beast is no more, it suffered a Mortal Wound) but the Kingdom lingers with many powerful nations such as Span, England and France etc. etc.

But even though they try to marry Royals to Royals 10 Kingdoms of the region (they shall mingle themselves (10 toes) with the seed of men meaning they try to create a super power as in days gone by via marrying Royals to Royals but it never seems to work out (the shall not cleave to one another) until the Church is Raptured, then it is allowed. Thus they are not a POWER like Rome was in that they ARE MANY and thus place a check on each other in a way. Just imagine if in 1750 England, France and Spain had of been able to join forces. it would have been a superpower.

So the old Fourth Beast was partly strong and partly broken !!

I think it's plausible, that is speaking about the Fourth Beast going into hibernation mode as per being a Beast and a superpower. More study is needed.
I am not subscribing to the demon or fallen angels merging with men as the correct interpretation of Daniel 2, the iron mixed with clay.

I think it is the different nations of the EU have cultural and historic difference(s) that keeps it from being a perfect union. And also the military and economic strengths are some weak and some strong, relevant to each other.

To top it off, the globalist EU leaders thought all they had to do was insert large numbers of peoples from outside of Europe who's muslim religion doesn't mix with any other culture anywhere in the world - and that it would all work itself out.

It was super stupid. And now there is the backlash, to their autocratic ways which has resulted in a breakdown in their society because of rapes, economic burdens, and no go zones for non-muslims. And the burden placed on the EU native citizens to pay for the ruination of their countries by the muslims by the various tax schemes.

Their leaders like Macron are not coming up with solutions. Instead they are coming up with ways to penalize the citizens to make the citizens work out the solutions.

What it is setting up is a Europe which is going to be extremely opposed to Islam (and who can blame them), which the little horn leader is going to reflect that sentiment. Such that when the Gog/Magog muslim force threatens Israel, Europe's position will be to massively stage it's army in Greece, as a deterrent against the invasion.

Which in Daniel 8:23, it says the little horn stands up - a idiom for prepares to go to war.
 
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It is a matter of timing, in regards to what the person does.

He himself doesn't claim to be "christ" using that term, because that term is associated with Jesus. The person will have a tremendous ego, so when the Jews embrace him as the messiah, mashiash if you were Jewish Judaism 101: Mashiach: The Messiah , pronounced meh-she-ah, he will picture himself to be so.

Follow the progression of the person on my chart. When he commits the transgression of desolation act, having being in the role of being the King of Israel for around three years - it is then, because the Jews reject him from continuing as their King, that he begins to persecute them.

And when he shortly thereafter becomes the beast, he will persecute and kill anyone who doesn't comply with his claim of being God.
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So you cant fiqure out there is a difference between the king of te north and the little horn.
 
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So you cant fiqure out there is a difference between the king of te north and the little horn.
please clarify your comment with the specific bible verses in Daniel 11 (I assume) you are referring to.
 
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please clarify your comment with the specific bible verses in Daniel 11 (I assume) you are referring to.
You stated the little horn place an transgression that causes desolation.No where in scripture is this found.

The little horn does not place the abomination of desolation.
The millitary of the king of the north does this.

Daniel 11:31 KJV: And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
 
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You stated the little horn place an transgression that causes desolation.No where in scripture is this found.

The little horn does not place the abomination of desolation.
The millitary of the king of the north does this.

Daniel 11:31 KJV: And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
What I stated was that the little horn person commits the transgression of desolation. It is an act, not a thing to be placed in the temple. There is a distinction between the transgression of desolation and the abomination of desolation.

The term transgression of desolation is Daniel 8:12-13.

12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

The little horn person at the time he commits the transgression will have been in the role of being the King of Israel (illegitimate as the Antichrist) for about around 3 years.

The transgression act reveals him as the man of sin. The transgression act is him going into the temple, sitting, claiming to be God.

I show the transgression of desolation on my chart. Also on my chart I show him being killed and brought back to life as the beast. After becoming the beast, the abomination of desolation image (a statue) of him is made and placed in the temple. Which is also on my chart down at the bottom.
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Now as to your point that in Daniel 11:31, the king of the north is responsible for the abomination of desolation - and why isn't that the little horn person?

That act was when Antiochus placed a statue of Zeus in the temple.

Thus the king of the north in that verse is not the end times little horn person, but Antiochus.

Daniel 11 doesn't get into the end times until Daniel 11:36. In Daniel 11:36, that King is the end times person after he has become the beast.

Of the various kings in the remainder of the verses, he will be the king of the west (implied). Neither the king of the north, nor the king of the south, nor the king(s) of the east (implied)
 
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What I stated was that the little horn person commits the transgression of desolation. It is an act, not a thing to be placed in the temple. There is a distinction between the transgression of desolation and the abomination of desolation.

The term transgression of desolation is Daniel 8:12-13.

12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

The little horn person at the time he commits the transgression will have been in the role of being the King of Israel (illegitimate as the Antichrist) for about around 3 years.

The transgression act reveals him as the man of sin. The transgression act is him going into the temple, sitting, claiming to be God.

I show the transgression of desolation on my chart. Also on my chart I show him being killed and brought back to life as the beast. After becoming the beast, the abomination of desolation image (a statue) of him is made and placed in the temple. Which is also on my chart down at the bottom.
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Now as to your point that in Daniel 11:31, the king of the north is responsible for the abomination of desolation - and why isn't that the little horn person?

That act was when Antiochus placed a statue of Zeus in the temple.

Thus the king of the north in that verse is not the end times little horn person, but Antiochus.

Daniel 11 doesn't get into the end times until Daniel 11:36. In Daniel 11:36, that King is the end times person after he has become the beast.

Of the various kings in the remainder of the verses, he will be the king of the west (implied). Neither the king of the north, nor the king of the south, nor the king(s) of the east (implied)

The host given to the little horn abolishes the daily sacrifice.

Daniel 8:12 KJV: And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

This host ggiven to the little horn (israel)is a millitary which abolishes the daily sacrifice .

Daniel 11:31 KJV: And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

When the king of the north paces his military in jerusalem as part pf his plan.The israelis conscription shall be abolished.
The king of the norths military shall place the abomination of desolation,not the little horn.
 
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Somewhere along the line, the EU government is going to reorganize to a ten leader form of government, with one leader over them - the little horn.
I believe your starting point in looking at the EU and the end times is completely wrong.
Your mistake is in assuming that the ten nation kingdom represents Europe alone, when scripture is clearly talking about a whole world confederacy of ten kingdoms or regions.

In fact the NWO divided the world into ten regions many years ago, with the EU being just the first to be fully established and working.

Additionally, Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream reveals the world wide nature of the final ten world dominating kingdoms.

Daniel2v36“This was the dream; now we will tell its interpretation before the king. 37You, O king, are the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, the strength and the glory;
So God calls Nebuchadnezzar the king of kings, in other words, a world ruler!

38and wherever the sons of men dwell, or the beasts of the field, or the birds of the sky, He has given them into your hand and has caused you to rule over them all. You are the head of gold.
Wherever the sons of men dwell? That obviously meant the whole world!
Despite the limited regional area covered by the Babylonian Kingdom at that time, in God's terminology, its king represented authority over the whole world including, the human race's expansion that would eventually occur in that world.

Daniel reveals that Babylon's head of Gold Kingdom would be defeated by the silver Medo Persian (breast and arms) kingdom, which in turn would be defeated by the bronze Greek (belly and thighs) kingdom, which would be in turn defeated by the Romans, the iron and clay (legs and ten toes) ten kingdom world confederacy.-

34“You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them.
The Stone cut out without hands obviously represents Christ who destroys all ten kingdoms in one go.

35“Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
All of the world kingdoms defeated by Rome are not destroyed until the final kingdom of Rome is destroyed.
This indicates that the demonic pagan natures of these kingdoms are all accumulated in the final Roman world regime.
 
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I believe your starting point in looking at the EU and the end times is completely wrong.
Your mistake is in assuming that the ten nation kingdom represents Europe alone, when scripture is clearly talking about a whole world confederacy of ten kingdoms or regions.

In fact the NWO divided the world into ten regions many years ago, with the EU being just the first to be fully established and working.

Additionally, Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream reveals the world wide nature of the final ten world dominating kingdoms.

Daniel2v36“This was the dream; now we will tell its interpretation before the king. 37You, O king, are the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, the strength and the glory;
So God calls Nebuchadnezzar the king of kings, in other words, a world ruler!

38and wherever the sons of men dwell, or the beasts of the field, or the birds of the sky, He has given them into your hand and has caused you to rule over them all. You are the head of gold.
Wherever the sons of men dwell? That obviously meant the whole world!
Despite the limited regional area covered by the Babylonian Kingdom at that time, in God's terminology, its king represented authority over the whole world including, the human race's expansion that would eventually occur in that world.

Daniel reveals that Babylon's head of Gold Kingdom would be defeated by the silver Medo Persian (breast and arms) kingdom, which in turn would be defeated by the bronze Greek (belly and thighs) kingdom, which would be in turn defeated by the Romans, the iron and clay (legs and ten toes) ten kingdom world confederacy.-

34“You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them.
The Stone cut out without hands obviously represents Christ who destroys all ten kingdoms in one go.

35“Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
All of the world kingdoms defeated by Rome are not destroyed until the final kingdom of Rome is destroyed.
This indicates that the demonic pagan natures of these kingdoms are all accumulated in the final Roman world regime.
Sir Drake, the push is for populous nationalism. The kingdom of the ten kings will not be fighting each other in Daniel 11:40-45.

It is not ten kingdoms, but ten kings of one kingdom, the fourth kingdom - which was the Roman Empire.

Europe right now is a mess, politically speaking, with broad spread dissatisfaction. I think Macron's approval rating under 20%.
 
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