My impartial science challenge

[Strathos]

Come up with a science topic to discuss that no one will derail into an argument supporting their personal agenda/philosophy/hobby horse.

 

[DennisTate]

Come up with a science topic to discuss that no one will derail into an argument supporting their personal agenda/philosophy/hobby horse.

How about:
If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...
... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?

This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters.

 

[mark kennedy]

Science did not exist until Newton performed the experiments related to manipulating light, and publishing them to the Royal Society in London. At least not the way we know of it.

 

[DennisTate]

Science did not exist until Newton performed the experiments related to manipulating light, and publishing them to the Royal Society in London. At least not the way we know of it.

On the other hand whoever built the pyramids and the Temple of Solomon may have been far more technologically advanced than we tend to imagine.

 

[Chesterton]

Come up with a science topic to discuss that no one will derail into an argument supporting their personal agenda/philosophy/hobby horse.

The invention of the wheel.

Wait. On second thought, it's unnatural and abnormal that humans be all like rolling around on things that roll. Sorry. I tried, but I failed the challenge.

 

[mark kennedy]

On the other hand whoever built the pyramids and the Temple of Solomon may have been far more technologically advanced than we tend to imagine.

Certainly the Egyptians knew a lot, everything we know about Euclidean geometry from them and the Greeks who wrote it down. Thales was a merchant there that learned how they triangulated property lines near Cairo, the tributaries at the mouth of the Nile would move from year to year. That remained the standard for math until the scientific revolution and the advent of Algebra and Calculus in the seventeenth century. It hasn't been improved on since, unless you count Quantum Mechanics, which I don't.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin... Um, wait a minute...

 

[durangodawood]

How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin... Um, wait a minute...

Which end is the head?

 

[jayem]

The neurophysiology of mass murder. Which encompasses multiple discussions. How are the neural pathways that would normally inhibit committing mass acts of violence be overcome in some people? Is it an inborn variation in neural circuitry? If so, is it genetic, or related to some drug or toxic exposure during fetal development? Or does it develop after birth from learning, or as a result of drugs, toxins, or infectious agents? Or is it a combination of all of these? Can persons at risk of perpetrating mass violence be identified early and can these impulses be controlled?

 

[DennisTate]

How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin... Um, wait a minute...

If Dr. Albert Einstein was correct about infinite smallness being just as possible as infinite bigness then an astonishing number ...... nearly an infinite number of angels could indeed dance on the head of a pin....... as a matter of fact..... could a quark have a certain amount of emotion or intelligence and could it be saying something like....... "Ariba, Ariba.... undale, undale... yeee hah.... yee hah........" like Speedy Gonzales used to say in some episodes of Buggs Bunny??!! (Por favor disculpe me por mi muy mal espanol)!

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Come up with a science topic to discuss that no one will derail into an argument supporting their personal agenda/philosophy/hobby horse.

An impossible task......

 

[Justatruthseeker]

If Dr. Albert Einstein was correct about infinite smallness being just as possible as infinite bigness then an astonishing number ...... nearly an infinite number of angels could indeed dance on the head of a pin....... as a matter of fact..... could a quark have a certain amount of emotion or intelligence and could it be saying something like....... "Ariba, Ariba.... undale, undale... yeee hah.... yee hah........" like Speedy Gonzales used to say in some episodes of Buggs Bunny??!! (Por favor disculpe me por mi muy mal espanol)!

Comparing us to our universe we would be the size of an electron in the human body. How much of the human body could one perceive and understand from the viewpoint of that electron? Would it come to the conclusion that the body was alive and intelligent from its limited perspective?

 

[durangodawood]

Come up with a science topic to discuss that no one will derail into an argument supporting their personal agenda/philosophy/hobby horse.

Not possible.

On this site, many people find the basic premises of scientific investigation itself to be suspect.

 

[PaoloPorini1972]

Science did not exist until Newton performed the experiments related to manipulating light, and publishing them to the Royal Society in London. At least not the way we know of it.

Yeah, but it was Soros who paid him...oh wait...did I derail the thread? My bad!

 

[PaoloPorini1972]

The invention of the wheel.

Wait. On second thought, it's unnatural and abnormal that humans be all like rolling around on things that roll. Sorry. I tried, but I failed the challenge.

And yet some civilizations never invented the wheel! (That always kinda freaks me out. I mean...it's a WHEEL.)

 

[DennisTate]

Comparing us to our universe we would be the size of an electron in the human body. How much of the human body could one perceive and understand from the viewpoint of that electron? Would it come to the conclusion that the body was alive and intelligent from its limited perspective?

Exactly!

We are finding out more and more and more and more about consciousness and it is pretty shocking stuff. Until I read the condensed version of "The Secret Life of Plants" by Readers's Digest I think I had almost zero understanding of what might just possibly be meant by these unusual verses in Isaiah.

Near death experience accounts of plants being alive........ in a sense..... and praising G-d in their own language.... got me wondering about type of thing.

Isaiah 14:8

Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

The Secret Life of Plants - Wikipedia

Summary[edit]
The book includes summaries of the life and work of 20th century scientists Jagadish Chandra Bose and Corentin Louis Kervranas well as 19th century scientist George Washington Carver.

The book includes experiments on plant stimuli using a polygraph, a method which was pioneered by Cleve Backster.[5][6] Parts of the book attempt to disparage science, particularly plant biology, for example by claiming science is not concerned with "what makes plants live", in order to promote its own viewpoint that plants have emotions. The authors further say the authorities are unable to accept that emotional plants "might originate in a supramaterial world of cosmic beings which, as fairies, elves, gnomes, sylphs, and a host of other creatures, were a matter of direct vision and experience to clairvoyants among the Celts and other sensitives

 

[mark kennedy]

Yeah, but it was Soros who paid him...oh wait...did I derail the thread? My bad!

Actually Cambridge paid him, he was the Lucasian, clearly a conspiracy to commit science. But they didn't have the benefit of a nosy press or they could have exposed the whole thing.

 

[PaoloPorini1972]

Actually Cambridge paid him, he was the Lucasian, clearly a conspiracy to commit science. But they didn't have the benefit of a nosy press or they could have exposed the whole thing.

Yup. And look at what he did...by being the Lucasian Chair he paved the way for Stephen Hawking to have a job later on. It's all connected I tell you. Big Science.

 

[mark kennedy]

Yup. And look at what he did...by being the Lucasian Chair he paved the way for Stephen Hawking to have a job later on. It's all connected I tell you. Big Science.

Yes, and there were many conspirators, the Catholics got Galileo, he thought he would get away with looking through his telescope and making observations of Jupiter that led to discovering how to calculate longitude and latitude. Kepler and his Y squared, that led to the principles of motion and even calculus. I tell you these guys are up to something. We should have a special prosecutor look into MIT, I think they were involved in the human genome project. And don't even get me started on NASA, microchips and microwaves can be directly tied to their work. This is bigger then you think.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

The neurophysiology of mass murder. Which encompasses multiple discussions. How are the neural pathways that would normally inhibit committing mass acts of violence be overcome in some people? Is it an inborn variation in neural circuitry? If so, is it genetic, or related to some drug or toxic exposure during fetal development? Or does it develop after birth from learning, or as a result of drugs, toxins, or infectious agents? Or is it a combination of all of these? Can persons at risk of perpetrating mass violence be identified early and can these impulses be controlled?

Interesting topic - from what I read, some people seem to be born psychopathic - without empathy or compassion, but they can adjust and live quite normal and successful lives - if they have a reasonably happy childhood. If they have an abusive childhood, they can become very dangerous.

So it seems there's an innate predisposition that requires certain conditions to be realised. I don't know if any causes have been discovered or suggested for this.