Main Problems w "A" or "Post" Millenialism?

[ewq1938]

Please consider that time statement in revelation 11:17. Which art to come? With wages. That alludes to I am coming quickly and my wages are with me in revelation 22:18.

Those words were inspired 2000 years ago. And Jesus has yet to arrive a second time. To make a concrete comparison. It would be like, saying. Jesus is coming quickly at the speed of light. But has to travel a great great distance and so even though. Is coming quickly has yet to arrive

In any event revelation 1117. And 18. Allude to the Second Coming. At the Great White throne judgment. Described in revelation 20. And reiterated in revelation 22. 18. Which have yet to occur

I think the most natural interpretation? Is to presume that revelation 11 looks far forward in time? To the Great White throne judgment on revelation 20 onwards. Then. The story jumps back and picks back up from revelation 12 on. Gives me the impression that Heaven considers everything from Christ onward to be Earth's final days. The end times plural.

The end of Rev 11 and the 7th trump is the same timeframe as the last part of Rev 19 and the first part of Rev 20 and the judgment and resurrection of the dead saints. It does not match up with the second day of resurrections and judgment found at the end of Rev 20.

 

[Erik Nelson]

The end of Rev 11 and the 7th trump is the same timeframe as the last part of Rev 19 and the first part of Rev 20 and the judgment and resurrection of the dead saints. It does not match up with the second day of resurrections and judgment found at the end of Rev 20.

Jesus arrives with his wages on the Great White throne. For final judgment after the Millennium.

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus arrives with his wages on the Great White throne. For final judgment after the Millennium.

No, he gives the wages/reward to the righteous when he returns not a thousand years later.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

This is before the thousand years even begins and long before the GWTJ in the end of Rev 20.