Men's recovery housing idea

[Lost4words]

They would probably end up growing their own 'stuff' out in the woods! You have a good idea and a caring heart. Maybe i just see the bad in what could happen there? It needs a lot of research my friend.

 

[Southernscotty]

someone to keep curfew and do cabin checks or "rounds" and do charting....

lead prayers

Yes and in the initial start up phase volunteers will be hard to find I am afraid.
I said the companies would support us earlier, I didn't mean monatarly, I just meant give them jobs as long as they were trying.

 

[Darkhorse]

And for those who sell drugs but are smart enough to not use their own product?

Maybe an undercover cop in the program now and then? Or an internal undercover investigator?

 

[Southernscotty]

They would probably end up growing their own 'stuff' out in the woods! You have a good idea and a caring heart. Maybe i just see the bad in what could happen there? It needs a lot of research my friend.

I understand and I keep thinking of things too, But the few that would take it serious is what I am thinking of.
I might have to have to have the cops do a search once in a while? Or bring a dog out. I wanna grow tomatoes and potatoes and vegetables.. not weed lol

 

[Southernscotty]

Maybe an undercover cop in the program now and then?

That would be easily done and they would always wonder :]

 

[Southernscotty]

But think of the good things that could happen.. like on Sundays when all the men would come to church and share their testimonies and learn about a new way to live life
And seeing them giving farm raised vegs to poor families and things that would make them feel good about themselves

 

[carp614]

I think it's a great idea.

Have you thought about finding and visiting similar operations to see what you could learn?

 

[Southernscotty]

I think it's a great idea.

Have you thought about finding and visiting similar operations to see what you could learn?

Yes I have been checking and have talked to several, They are good places, However there is nothing quite like what I want to do, Where they are introduced to animals and gardening. They will be required to participate and not just lay around.
The facilities around here just offer housing for the most part, as far as I know anyway

 

[eleos1954]

Hey guys, I am praying on something that might be awesome and want to run it by you guys.
and see what you think?
How about a 40 acre tract of woods and brush that we could put up several small one room cabins and let men who are recovering from alcohol or drugs stay there and take care of a few farm animals and a large community garden that the extra produce would be further given the poor in the community.
These men would have campfire bible studies and Sunday church regularly as part of the program.
I believe there are many areas we could go into here, Like a community corrections team that let guys work off their debts here in our county like community service etc:
We could also help them find jobs and teach them some biblical values.
What are your thoughts? Concerns? etc

Perhaps ease into it with some large military type tents and see how it goes. A half-way house type of environment could be pretty difficult ... perhaps if AA could be involved as well that might be helpful, they have a fairly good success rate.

 

[Southernscotty]

Perhaps ease into it with some large military type tents and see how it goes. A half-way house type of environment could be pretty difficult ... perhaps if AA could be involved as well that might be helpful, they have a fairly good success rate.

I never thought about those military tents. That would open up the door a lot quicker and the men who were carpenters could build small cabins. Excellent idea

 

[carp614]

Yes I have been checking and have talked to several, They are good places, However there is nothing quite like what I want to do, Where they are introduced to animals and gardening. They will be required to participate and not just lay around.
The facilities around here just offer housing for the most part, as far as I know anyway

I happen to be a recovering addict, so I can really picture what you are describing in my minds eye as a refuge and an opportunity. The only thing I wondered about was the accommodations. I'm not sure you said this, but it sounded like it would be one man, one cabin. Is that right? You might think this statement is counter intuitive, but that much privacy can be difficult for addicts handle. They need contact and accountability. That's just my opinion mind you, but easily something you could ask others about. I mean because maybe alternative could be something like a bunk house. The addict in me would really hate that, which tells me it's probably a good idea. Just a thought.

 

[Southernscotty]

I happen to be a recovering addict, so I can really picture what you are describing in my minds eye as a refuge and an opportunity. The only thing I wondered about was the accommodations. I'm not sure you said this, but it sounded like it would be one man, one cabin. Is that right? You might think this statement is counter intuitive, but that much privacy can be difficult for addicts handle. They need contact and accountability. That's just my opinion mind you, but easily something you could ask others about. I mean because maybe alternative could be something like a bunk house. The addict in me would really hate that, which tells me it's probably a good idea. Just a thought.

Thank you and that makes sense. See this is the feedback that is so very important because people who have been there know what people need. Bless you
After the army tent was mentioned, I got thinking because I know where a church tent is and can get some bunks

 

[andrea0601]

I pray that everything works out for you, I don't know much about that life, but I have one or two family members who are addicted to drugs and I worry for them everyday. It's sad seeing people in that state.

 

[Shane R]

Your idea is similar to what my mentor has envisioned as the ideal seminary community: a village centered around a farm where everyone is working toward the same goal. I wish you great success and will pray for it as well.

 

[Cm1989]

I think it is an awesome idea as someone who has had to recover from bad choices.
There would obviously have to be strict rules.
Ex:
-Random drug testing. Set up a system that would randomly pick someone every few days or a week. The longer they are there maybe the less that person gets tested to show trust?
Oh and a clean person will never hesitate to take a test on the spot only someone with something to hide.
-I would say no visitors at all until after a certain number of months being there.
-Random inspections of property if there is ever a dirty test.
-Procedures as to what happens if they test dirty.
-No being lazy everyone works a chore as well as a program and attends the bible studies and church.
-Participation will be key
And many more that I can't think of now...

With your experience it will be obvious if their heart is not in it. Even though we do fail sometimes I believe with deep conversations or lack thereof you can tell what is in a persons heart, and if they will be a bad apple or worth the fight.

Praying for God's guidance!!

 

[DamianWarS]

Hey guys, I am praying on something that might be awesome and want to run it by you guys.
and see what you think?
How about a 40 acre tract of woods and brush that we could put up several small one room cabins and let men who are recovering from alcohol or drugs stay there and take care of a few farm animals and a large community garden that the extra produce would be further given the poor in the community.
These men would have campfire bible studies and Sunday church regularly as part of the program.
I believe there are many areas we could go into here, Like a community corrections team that let guys work off their debts here in our county like community service etc:
We could also help them find jobs and teach them some biblical values.
What are your thoughts? Concerns? etc

it's already going on, maybe not exactly how you describe but they have close examples, it's called "teen challenge". If you were serious about this (have the contacts, funds, donations, etcs...) I would contact them. no need to reinvent the wheel.

 

[Monk Brendan]

That is something to think about. However they could be drug tested once a month to stay in the program

Most treatment programs test at least weekly and frequently daily.

If you feel this is what God is calling you to do, I suggest that FIRST you find an already existing country residence program that you are thinking about, and volunteer to help them, or at least talk with those who run it.

I'm sure you'll find you'll need professional counsellors and the like.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Such facilities exist and their success rate is high, but their recidivism level even higher. If this is something you are thinking about doing, you will have to follow the regs of your state which may require you to go through the same steps other medical facilities are required to undergo when they’re opening and operating.

Simply put, this isn’t a business one starts because they have the time, materials, and interest. There is significant oversight.

 

[Stone-n-Steel]

Hey guys, I am praying on something that might be awesome and want to run it by you guys.
and see what you think?
How about a 40 acre tract of woods and brush that we could put up several small one room cabins and let men who are recovering from alcohol or drugs stay there and take care of a few farm animals and a large community garden that the extra produce would be further given the poor in the community.
These men would have campfire bible studies and Sunday church regularly as part of the program.
I believe there are many areas we could go into here, Like a community corrections team that let guys work off their debts here in our county like community service etc:
We could also help them find jobs and teach them some biblical values.
What are your thoughts? Concerns? etc

Do you have a plan for those people who play the ministry just as they played the people in Prison. I have seen many people play at Christianity with no real intention or commitment. My recommendation is to test their doctrine. If they can clearly explain their salvation from the scriptures and how it has changed them it would be a good start.

 

[LoricaLady]

Now you have worked in an institution that had rules and regulations that helped protect you, and kept the addicts at a kind of safe distance. Have you consulted with an attorney about possible liability you might face in this event or that event in the scenario you are picturing?