Dan. 9.27

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You are trying to prove the church is Israel - but you are not using Israel, but Abraham.

How are you going to disconnect Israel(Jacob) from his grandfather, which is Abraham?

We should also ask, why you are trying to disconnect them?


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How are you going to disconnect Israel(Jacob) from his grandfather, which is Abraham?

We should also ask, why you are trying to disconnect them?
Abraham and Jacob are not the same person.
 
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The house of Israel went into 2000 years captivity because they rejected Jesus. It is not talking about the Babylonian captivity, nor the Assyrian captivity.
 
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2 Corinthians 1
19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.
20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

Yea:

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ναίἐν αὐτῷ γέγονεν, in him what was promised has come to pass, 2 Corinthians 1:19; ἐπαγγελίαι ἐν αὐτῷ τό ναί namely, γεγόνασιν, have been fulfilled, have been confirmed by the event, 2 Corinthians 1:20
What is confirmed is that He always says YES to His promises.
 
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/He will avenge the blood of His servants.
at the same time -He is merciful to the land of Israel.
5th seal - How long till He - judges and avenges?
We can see that it first takes the time of the little horn mouth to be over. He must first scatter Israel for 42 months. times, time, and an half
1260 days

Rev. 11:2
shows the Gentiles will have the holy city
Luke told how the end of the Gentiles comes before our redemption.
when ye see...your redemption/nigh


Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
(Compare this to what Paul said in Romans 2:28-29.)

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
(Is this the "holy city" you are talking about?)


Based on the passage below, the Second Coming of Christ occurs when the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness.

Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


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Israel is partially blind now as to knowing the Messiah, and will be that way till the fullness of the church/Gentiles comes in.

Based on Romans 11:1-5, all of the Israelites were not "partially blinded".
Instead, part of the Israelites were blinded, and part were not.
It has been that way since the time of Elijah, and Paul confirms it as a fact during his time in Romans 11:5.

You are twisting the text to make your viewpoint work.

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The "he" part links back to when this chapter began. Daniel was supplicating because the Babylonian king has 70 years to desolate
Jerusalem. Daniel knew from the writings of Jeremiah that is how many years he has to be over the nations. Daniel knew this time ended too early in his day. Gabriel came to show him when this =he =comes back to finish the time that is left for Babylon to destroy Israel.

According to grammatical convention, the antecedent of the pronoun would be the most recent preceding noun to which it could most logically refer. In this case, that would be the "prince".
 
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after 69 weeks
the Messiah is cut off - He is not here making a covenant

then comes -- the city is desolated
and still not in the 70th week
that time of war ends -unto the end of the war

then the 70th week begins/ after the city has been rebuilt - and now during this week, it will be destroyed again=the holy site abominated

in steps Daniel 11

Daniel 11:21
vile person....later - abomination...later - speaks great things
Daniel 7 - speaks great things - the little horn
in steps Rev. 13
the mouth that is given
speaks great things - has 42 months to make war
/city is again desolated
/woman fled to be fed in the wilderness =42 months

in steps Daniel 12's message as to how long this war lasts
times, time, and half an half
God sees their power is gone.

in steps Deuteronomy 32
when He sees that their power is gone -He will judge and avenge
their blood
/no more 5th seal martyrs

in steps the 7th trumpet
His wrath is come
destroy
in steps the 6th seal
His wrath is come.
day of the Lord events/powers of the heavens shaken - in steps Isaiah 13 and Joel 2, Isaiah 34, Luke 21
as to that day comes as a destruction from the Almighty
powers of the heavens shaken
/Babylon will be as a woman in travail.
in steps Rev. 18
as to Babylon is seen as a cage =evil birds
God is remembering the sins of Babylon.= cage
Israel will flee the land, so as not to receive of her plagues.
out goes a message to show how that set of plagues will end
=the end of Rev. 11 = connected to Rev. 16:1 =as to time to begin the set of plagues that will end with great hail
this all leads to It is done. --as in there will be no calling back -God will not repent of any of this plague time. It will lead to the battle at the end of Rev. 19 - the taking down of the mouth out of the sea beast, kings-armies and the false prophet, all the wicked people at the battle are slain by the Rider on the white horse. He is wearing many crowns.

Israel returns to had land and city is -lifted up -in her place.
She dwells safely -without walls. She gains cattle and goods.

in steps the great tumult from Zechariah 14
Israel gathers the plunder.
The others slew each other.
Time now to beat swords into plowshares.
The survivors must come to that lifted up Jerusalem - to worship the King and keep the feast of tabernacles.
Jesus Christ is then reigning with the saints.
The devil has been bound for the 1000 years.
nations are not learning war

So who is the prince?
 
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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Dan 9:27)

Who is the one making the covenant in this passage? God or antichrist?

Thank you,

jm
I think this passage unfortunately, had some major translation issues centuries ago. I opt for the Septuagint translation:

"And one week shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away: and on the temple shall be the abomination of desolations; and at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation." - LXX

This it's not really about -"who" established the covenant - but instead that the covenant is established at all. The "covenant" all throughout the Old Testament refers to the Mosaic Law. The Antichrist, in his impostor role, will help reestablish the Mosaic law, temple sacrifice, etc. And then in the middle of the 70th week, he will ban all worship of God and declare himself god - committing the abomination of desolation which will cause the remnant of Israel to flee the Holy Land.

Daniel 9's prophecy is all about the TEMPLE. That is the context of the vision and interpretation from the angel to Daniel. And the Septuagint, which was quoted by The Lord and His disciples and actually contains the phrase "abomination of desolations" (which The Lord quotes in the Gospels), seems to be the best source for this question.
 
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