Dan. 9.27

[BABerean2]

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Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. (See Hebrews 11:15-16.)
Eze 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. (See the "everlasting" covenant in Hebrews 13:20.)
Eze 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. (See 1 Peter 2:4-10.)
Eze 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore. (Who is the "sanctuary" who will be in our midst forever?)


Taking a passage about the resurrection of the dead (John 5:27-30) at the future Second Coming of Christ, and turning it into a passage about those who reject Christ would be the lie.

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[BABerean2]

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Jesus Christ is the ultimate fulfillment of Israel, based on the scripture found below, and confirmed by the Apostle Paul.


Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.


Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.


How did Peter address the crowd on the Day of Pentecost?

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.


How did James address his fellow Christians in his letter?

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.


The liar is found in the passage below.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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[jgr]

Nice sidestep, but you are still making God out to be a liar. God made PROMISES to Israel, and He will fulfill those promises. It has always been Satan trying to make God out to be a liar. That is not a wise thing for you to do.

You're claiming God has not fulfilled His promises?

He said that He has.

2 Corinthians 1:20
For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

Who is making God out to be a liar?

 

[JM]

Who is the one making the covenant in Daniel 9?

 

[BABerean2]

Who is the one making the covenant in Daniel 9?

Who fulfilled Daniel 9:24?

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
(From the promise of the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34.)
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

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[iamlamad]

Jesus Christ is the ultimate fulfillment of Israel, based on the scripture found below, and confirmed by the Apostle Paul.


Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.


Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.


How did Peter address the crowd on the Day of Pentecost?

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.


How did James address his fellow Christians in his letter?

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.


The liar is found in the passage below.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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One thing is clear: if YOU were God, those in Israel that love the Father but don't know Jesus would have NO CHANCE...because you would not give them a chance.

Jesus, on the other hand, LOVES them, and will allow them to see His nailed scarred hands.

 

[iamlamad]

You're claiming God has not fulfilled His promises?

He said that He has.

2 Corinthians 1:20
For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

Who is making God out to be a liar?

That only means God has said YES to all His promises - it does not mean they are all fulfilled!

 

[jgr]

That only means God has said YES to all His promises - it does not mean they are all fulfilled!

2 Corinthians 1
19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.
20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

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ναίἐν αὐτῷ γέγονεν, in him what was promised has come to pass, 2 Corinthians 1:19; ἐπαγγελίαι ἐν αὐτῷ τό ναί namely, γεγόνασιν, have been fulfilled, have been confirmed by the event, 2 Corinthians 1:20

 

[BABerean2]

One thing is clear: if YOU were God, those in Israel that love the Father but don't know Jesus would have NO CHANCE...because you would not give them a chance.

Jesus, on the other hand, LOVES them, and will allow them to see His nailed scarred hands.

God asks us to tell the truth.
The Jewish man below found the promise of the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34, of his Hebrew scriptures, and accepted Christ as his Messiah.
He had the courage to also speak the truth to his father.
Both men are now my Brothers in Christ.

My wife and I support two ministries which are now taking the Gospel to the Jewish people.
Why?

Because their only chance at salvation is through the Gospel of what Jesus Christ did at Calavry. There is no Plan B.
Galatians 1:6-9.

I have had Jewish believers in my home for Bible study.

If you think all Jews will be saved at His Second Coming, you must have cut Matthew 25:1-13, and 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and John 19:37 out of your Bible.

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[Douggg]

Jesus Christ is the ultimate fulfillment of Israel, based on the scripture found below, and confirmed by the Apostle Paul.


Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.


Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Abraham is not Israel.

 

[Douggg]

You're claiming God has not fulfilled His promises?

He said that He has.

2 Corinthians 1:20
For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

Who is making God out to be a liar?

jgr, do you have your redeemed everlasting body yet? If not, that is a promise that God made that has not been fulfilled.

Likewise, there are promises made to Israel that have not been fulfilled yet.

 

[Douggg]

One thing is clear: if YOU were God, those in Israel that love the Father but don't know Jesus would have NO CHANCE...because you would not give them a chance.

Jesus, on the other hand, LOVES them, and will allow them to see His nailed scarred hands.

God will bring the Jews, Israel, to belief in Jesus. The church already believes in Jesus, which the church is not Israel.

The church is not Israel.
The 70th week ends with Jesus's return, and begins 7 years earlier.
Revelation 12 is the 70th week relevant to Israel.

 

[Douggg]

There is no Plan B.

Everyone here knows that. But it does not make the church - Israel.

 

[jgr]

jgr, do you have your redeemed everlasting body yet? If not, that is a promise that God made that has not been fulfilled.

Likewise, there are promises made to Israel that have not been fulfilled yet.

The fulfillment is already assured for me because of what Christ has already done for me. Its timing is in His Hands, not mine.

Israel is Abraham's seed, and Abraham's seed is Christ (Galatians 3:16). The promises were made to Him (Galatians 3:16), He has fulfilled them (2 Corinthians 1:20), and He is the Heir to everything associated with them (Hebrews 1:1,2). His plans and decisions about them are all in His Hands.

 

[jgr]

Everyone here knows that. But it does not make the church - Israel.

You've seen this before, but haven't refuted anything. Why not?

 

[Douggg]

The fulfillment is already assured for me because of what Christ has already done for me. Its timing is in His Hands, not mine.

But the redemption of your body has not taken place, no matter how you try to spin it. It an unfilled promise, it is a blessed hope.

 

[Douggg]

You've seen this before, but haven't refuted anything. Why not?

It's been refuted that the church is not Israel about a million times on this forum.

 

[jgr]

But the redemption of you body has not taken place, no matter how you try to spin it. It an unfilled promise, it is a blessed hope.

It was never promised to be fulfilled to anyone while they still inhabit their vile, corruptible, earthly bodies. How could it be?

 

[jgr]

It's been refuted that the church is not Israel about a million times on this forum.

So it should be easy to choose any assertion in parousia70's discourse and refute it, including with Scripture.

 

[Douggg]

It was never promised to be fulfilled to anyone while they still inhabit their vile, corruptible, earthly bodies. How could it be?

???? What? The corruptible shall put on incorruptible.

1Corinthians 15:

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.