Dan. 9.27

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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Dan 9:27)

Who is the one making the covenant in this passage? God or antichrist?

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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Dan 9:27)

Who is the one making the covenant in this passage? God or antichrist?

Thank you,

jm

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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Dan 9:27)

Who is the one making the covenant in this passage? God or antichrist?

Thank you,

jm
The prince who shall come who will be anointed the King of Israel by the false prophet, making him the Antichrist.

The covenant is the Mt. Sinai covenant, confirmed by the Antichrist making a big speech from the temple mount that God gave the children of Israel, the land of Israel as theirs forever. As required by Moses in Deuteronomy 31:9-13, on a 7 year cycle.

But it has to be separated when the person is the Antichrist - King of Israel. And when the person is the King of the Roman Empire, end times, as the little horn and later as the beast.
 
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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Dan 9:27)

Who is the one making the covenant in this passage? God or antichrist?

Thank you,

jm

The antecedent of "he" in verse 27 is the "prince" in verse 26, whose antecedent is in turn "Messiah the Prince" in verse 25, who is the only individual identified as a prince in the passage.

The covenant-confirmer is God incarnate in Messiah. His covenant is the New Covenant in His Blood, shed for many (Matthew 26:28).

Antichrist is unseen, unsaid, and unknown in the passage.
 
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The antecedent of "he" in verse 27 is the "prince" in verse 26, whose antecedent is in turn Messiah the Prince in verse 25, who is the only individual identified as a prince in the passage.
Therein lies the error in interpretation. It was not Jesus's people who destroyed the temple and city.
 
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Therein lies the error in interpretation. It was not Jesus's people who destroyed the temple and city.

Both Romans and Jews were instrumental in the destruction, as Messiah's agents of judgment and punishment.
 
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Daniel 9:27 can't begin until after a determined war ends that also desolates the holy city. That was the time of Titus.

unto the end of the war

The Messiah came -died without sin -then later there was war...and the 70th week is yet to begin.

Messiah died to confirm His New Covenant in the middle ("midst") of the 70th contiguous week.
 
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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Dan 9:27)

Who is the one making the covenant in this passage? God or antichrist?

Thank you,

jm


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the temple mount that God gave the children of Israel, the land of Israel as theirs forever.


The son is heir to the land, instead of those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone".

Mat 21:37 Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.'
Mat 21:38 But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, 'This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.'
Mat 21:39 So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.
Mat 21:40 "Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?"
Mat 21:41 They said to Him, "He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons."
Mat 21:42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED HAS BECOME THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE. THIS WAS THE LORD'S DOING, AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES' ?
Mat 21:43 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.
(The "holy nation" which accepts the "chief cornerstone" is found in 1 Peter 2:4-10.)




1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

1Jn 2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

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The area now known as "the Temple Mount" is the remains of Roman Fort Antonia.


The site of the ancient Jewish temple was near Gihon Spring.

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Fort Antonia and the Jewish Temple:


Mat 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.



Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.





Luk 19:41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,



Luk 19:42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.


Luk 19:43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,


Luk 19:44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.





Mar 15:16 Then the soldiers led Him away into the hall called Praetorium, and they called together the whole garrison.





Act_23:35 he said, "I will hear you when your accusers also have come." And he commanded him to be kept in Herod's Praetorium.




The following comes from Wars of the Jews, by Flavius Josephus, Book 5, Chapter 5, Section 8.


8. Now as to the tower of Antonia, it was situated at the corner of two cloisters of the court of the temple; of that on the west, and that on the north; it was erected upon a rock of fifty cubits in height, and was on a great precipice; it was the work of king Herod, wherein he demonstrated his natural magnanimity. In the first place, the rock itself was covered over with smooth pieces of stone, from its foundation, both for ornament, and that any one who would either try to get up or to go down it might not be able to hold his feet upon it. Next to this, and before you come to the edifice of the tower itself, there was a wall three cubits high; but within that wall all the space of the tower of Antonia itself was built upon, to the height of forty cubits. The inward parts had the largeness and form of a palace, it being parted into all kinds of rooms and other conveniences, such as courts, and places for bathing, and broad spaces for camps; insomuch that, by having all conveniences that cities wanted, it might seem to be composed of several cities, but by its magnificence it seemed a palace. And as the entire structure resembled that of a tower, it contained also four other distinct towers at its four corners; whereof the others were but fifty cubits high; whereas that which lay upon the southeast corner was seventy cubits high, that from thence the whole temple might be viewed; but on the corner where it joined to the two cloisters of the temple, it had passages down to them both, through which the guard (for there always lay in this tower a Roman legion) went several ways among the cloisters, with their arms, on the Jewish festivals, in order to watch the people, that they might not there attempt to make any innovations; for the temple was a fortress that guarded the city, as was the tower of Antonia a guard to the temple; and in that tower were the guards of those three (14). There was also a peculiar fortress belonging to the upper city, which was Herod’s palace; but for the hill Bezetha, it was divided from the tower Antonia, as we have already told you; and as that hill on which the tower of Antonia stood was the highest of these three, so did it adjoin to the new city, and was the only place that hindered the sight of the temple on the north. And this shall suffice at present to have spoken about the city and the walls about it, because I have proposed to myself to make a more accurate description of it elsewhere.



Josephus said Fort Antonia was built upon a gigantic rock.

This provides tremendous evidence that the Dome of the Rock is the true location of Fort Antonia.

 
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The Messiah died - was cut off before the war that desolate the city even started. The 70th week was not part of that war time. Look at how 70 weeks are determined a war that starts and ends is determined-before the final week starts.

unto the end of the war...desolations
and for one week -
confirm the covenant with many...desolations...

The holy city of Jerusalem had to rebuild from the other war time before the 70th week could begin where there were more desolations.

You're right, the war was not encompassed within the 70th week, but it was the inevitable foreordained judgmental consequence of the events of the 70th week which saw Christ crucified, for Christ prophesied just before His death:

Matthew 23
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Which was a confirmation of Daniel 9:27:

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 
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The Messiah died - was cut off before the war that desolate the city even started. The 70th week was not part of that war time. Look at how 70 weeks are determined a war that starts and ends is determined-before the final week starts.

unto the end of the war...desolations
and for one week -
confirm the covenant with many...desolations...

The holy city of Jerusalem had to rebuild from the other war time before the 70th week could begin where there were more desolations.
Wow! Good job! The Holy Land has been being rebuilt since the 1940's. Before that it was a waste land.
 
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How many times does Lord Rothschild give God the credit for creating the modern State of Israel?


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The far more important question is, do you believe God was in the new State of Israel. Do you believe Israel today is God fulfilling prophecy?
 
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The far more important question is, do you believe God was in the new State of Israel. Do you believe Israel today is God fulfilling prophecy?

What does God believe about those who reject His Son?

Mat 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(See 1 Peter 2:4-10 for the "holy nation", which accepts the "chief cornerstone".)



1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.


2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.



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