Why do people reject Jesus Christ?

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Thanks Emli for clarifying your thoughts and for agreeing that there is life in the Bible. I fully understand what you mean that many will not receive the seed of the Word into their hearts. It is like seed thrown by the way side. While the parable of the Sower is talking about the entire life of individuals, I also see that that part of the parable could convey the truth that a person can hear the seed of the Word of God and refuse it, but then at a later point in time, they could receive the Word into their hearts, too.

Meaning.... we have to have.... HOPE.
Hope and prayer for those who do reject God's Word in what we have shown them. They may have rejected that seed at one point in time, but God can bring it back to them. Like Jonah, who did not want to go and preach to the Ninevites. God had other plans for him.

We have to hold out hope for all people.
Loving them with the love of God.
Amen! We should never, ever give up. And never, ever stop reaching out to them. But we also have to stay patient and respect God's timing. And show them the Love of God, in action. That speaks volumes louder than Scripture sometimes, if they can see Him in us. Then they will go read the Bible on their own and hopefully be saved.
 
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To be honest though, you rarely explain what you mean, so it's easy to misunderstand you. You post one sentence as a response to 20 sentences, ignoring most of what I have written. And I'm not taking anything out of context. I'm trying to put things into context.

Of course the spiritual state of the person speaking affects what the other person hears.

1 Corinthians 15:33 "Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character."

The Bible tells us over and over to watch out for false prophets, to avoid deception and false doctrines, to test all spirits. If someone lies to you and you agree with it, then that person has affected you. If the person speaks from their own mind and you agree you have believed in a doctrine of man. If that person's words come from an unclean spirit and you agree, you have believed in a doctrine of demons. If he or she speaks from the Spirit and you agree then you have believed sound doctrine.

God could use an unsaved person, or anything that is in Creation, to speak to us. But we have to be careful. Should we listen to the devil or his false prophets as they are twisting Scripture taking it out of context? Or should we listen to the Holy Spirit as He teaches us sound doctrine?
And again, this is not in response to what I said. I give up. It’s difficult to have a discussion with someone who can’t keep track of a discussion and thinks that we are talking about something else, even when I am trying to answer the question.

Good day.
 
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I have just become more open to the gifts (tongues) as being a possibility. I believed the other gifts were possible, but I was not so sure about tongues. I am still on the fence on that one. I have to fast and pray about that topic a lot while studying Scripture to come to the truth on that one. David Servant (An Ohio preacher I discovered on YouTube convinced me a bit of the validity of tongues for our day (You can check out that short video here if you are interested); I like his sermons because they teach the necessity of how we have to obey as a part of the faith).

Anyways, God bless you today Emli.
:) I am "researching" tongues myself lately. I haven't spoken in real tongues myself (demonic tongues once which made me very careful), but I have had some very interesting experiences with others who speak in tongues, so I know that it exists. But I believe that there is much more to the gift than what most people think (as is everything of God).

I like David Servant, and I will definitely look up the video.

God bless you too, Jason. :)
 
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Not all Christians see religions divisively. No all enter an understanding that those worshipping God from another part of the world, must be wrong, because they adopt a separate way of worshipping and use another set of documents to support the paradigm of their religion.

I think there is a great commonality in regions of the world. NONE of us knows for certain that what we say is true - that's a matter of faith and intellect. We cannot know for certain that Jesus was the son of God - that is a concept of faith.

Nor can Moslems say with certainty that Mohammed ascended into heaven - that is a matter of faith for them, not fact.

For me, those things are not so important. I recognise that just because something is written, does not mean it's true. What's important is to strive towards an understanding of God, and the meaning of life.

Not all religions are the same.
There is only one truth and that is Jesus Christ.
He is the way, the truth, and the life.
A person has to be born again spiritually by Him by seeking forgiveness of their sins with Him. If one has not done so, they will never see what God wants to show them within His Word.
 
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Can God not use real life situations for our learning?

Yes, in fact, I've found that God can make me see in others the things I need to remove in myself......when, once removed, i no longer see it in others.

Are you saying that God will show you sin in others that you then feel free to use to minister to them or others about them? Do you also find comfort in discussing those sins with your brothers in Christ? And when you do, is it to help yourself, or someone else in the future.

Uh, no. I am not hoping any person rejects Christ. Why would you think that? I am saying that while a person may reject Christ today, that does not mean they will reject Christ tomorrow or a few years later down the road. I used to be an atheist and I did not want to have anything to do with God. But God softened my heart by using love and then I later accepted Christ by hearing the Holy Scriptures.
Please show me where my post reads that you are hoping a person rejects Christ......maybe i missed a punctuation mark......I'll assume that the rest of your post is charged with the above in mind....so i wont take it into consideration until you have a correct understanding of mine.

Were specific people mentioned who rejected Christ by name talked about here within this thread?
Please read the thread from the beginning, and also my reread my posts, as I believe you may be seeing ideas that arent there.
 
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:) I am "researching" tongues myself lately. I haven't spoken in real tongues myself (demonic tongues once which made me very careful), but I have had some very interesting experiences with others who speak in tongues, so I know that it exists. But I believe that there is much more to the gift than what most people think (as is everything of God).

I like David Servant, and I will definitely look up the video.

God bless you too, Jason. :)

Yes, I am also very careful of those who claim to speak in tongues, too. The Kundalini warning videos by Andrew Strom on YouTube was an eye opening experience for me. It's scary stuff what is happening in our world today.

That is why I would have to pray deeply and fast (even) to see if it is for our day.

Thank you Emli for your defense of God's Word today.
May God bless you greatly.
 
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We cannot know for certain that Jesus was the son of God - that is a concept of faith.
Yes, we can. I know for sure. Because I know Him and He has revealed Himself to me, as He will with anyone who seeks Him from a pure heart. Being a follower of Christ does not mean blind faith. God opens our eyes and we know Him personally. I have seen Him do the impossible. No other "god" could ever do those things for me. He changed me, a lot instantly, then a lot more over time. No other "god", no philosophy or science or psychology or any other teaching, could do what Jesus does for those who love Him. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that could. I have searched everywhere, and I couldn't find life or anything that made sense. Then came Jesus, and He flipped my world upside down. Or rather right side up. He is God. He is who He says He is in His Word. So yes, we can know. No one else can say that they know for sure, but once you have known Jesus Christ and have been transformed by His Spirit, then you can know 100% that the Gospel is true.

For me, those things are not so important. I recognise that just because something is written, does not mean it's true. What's important is to strive towards an understanding of God, and the meaning of life.
How can you understand God without getting to know Him?
 
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Yes, in fact, I've found that God can make me see in others the things I need to remove in myself......when, once removed, i no longer see it in others.

Are you saying that God will show you sin in others that you then feel free to use to minister to them or others about them?

While this is talking about sin (and not a rejecting of Christ): What do you think transpired at 1 Corinthians 5?
Was this event recorded in Scripture for our learning?

Do you also find comfort in discussing those sins with your brothers in Christ? And when you do, is it to help yourself, or someone else in the future.

Some things in life you have to deal with and you cannot just ignore them. Life is not all kittens and lollipops. Paul was quick to deal with sin in the church. He told them to kick out that person who was sinning. This person was ignoring the teachings of Jesus Christ by their justifying sexual immorality.

Please show me where my post reads that you are hoping a person rejects Christ......maybe i missed a punctuation mark......I'll assume that the rest of your post is charged with the above in mind....so i wont take it into consideration until you have a correct understanding of mine.

My apologies. I think I may have misunderstood what you said on this point. As for the rest of what you say, the OP topic of discussion is not wrong because it something that the Bible does talk about.
 
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Yes, I am also very careful of those who claim to speak in tongues, too. The Kundalini warning videos by Andrew Strom on YouTube was an eye opening experience for me. It's scary stuff what is happening in our world today.

That is why I would have to pray deeply and fast (even) to see if it is for our day.

Thank you Emli for your defense of God's Word today.
May God bless you greatly.
I used to have the Kundalini spirit, from my past. I am 100% certain from what I know today that it is the spirit of the anti-christ because of the lies it tells people and it is everywhere all over the world and in the church. It is scary, but if we stay true to God and to His Word, it won't deceive us. He who is in us is greater than he who is in the world.

Thank you too for defending it, and also for correcting me and teaching me something. I appreciate it. God bless you and may He keep opening your eyes!
 
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I used to have the Kundalini spirit, from my past. I am 100% certain from what I know today that it is the spirit of the anti-christ because of the lies it tells people and it is everywhere all over the world and in the church. It is scary, but if we stay true to God and to His Word, it won't deceive us. He who is in us is greater than he who is in the world.

Thank you too for defending it, and also for correcting me and teaching me something. I appreciate it. God bless you and may He keep opening your eyes!

You are most welcome.
I am so glad Jesus has delivered you from that.
Praise God indeed.

May the Lord bless you and keep you in everything you do, Emli. I am so grateful to have another sister to talk with involving the passion and love we both have for the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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Not all religions are the same.
There is only one truth and that is Jesus Christ.
He is the way, the truth, and the life.
A person has to be born again spiritually by Him by seeking forgiveness of their sins with Him. If one has not done so, they will never see what God wants to show them within His Word.
Don't misunderstand me Jason. I am not denouncing your belief or anyone else's. I am answering the OP question. People hold to their religion based on where they were born and what their parents believed for 95% of people who assert they have a religion. Hindu's Moslems and Buddhists feel just as strongly as you do....it has little to do with the book they hold in their hand though is what I am convinced of - You see, I believe if you had been born in Yemen, or Eritrea, you would be Moslem.
 
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What do you think transpired at 1 Corinthians 5?
Was this event recorded in Scripture for our learning?

I see spiritual events for my internalization and preparation for glory. But I can understand how a literal interpretation can lead one to believe that the sins of others are being discussed.

How is it that you see these scriptures as a reason that one should discuss the sins of others? Do you see a discussion of sins here...or are they stating actions that should be taken place once sin is found? Do you believe one, or maybe the first, action is to have a discussion about it?


Some things in life you have to deal with and you cannot just ignore them. Life is not all kittens and lollipops. Paul was quick to deal with sin in the church. He told them to kick out that person who was sinning. This person was rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ by their justifying sexual immorality.
Yes, I agree with being quick with the removal of sin. What I fail to understand, is how having a group conversation about the sin, is being quick with it's removal.

My apologies. I think I may have misunderstood what you said on this point. As for the rest of what you say, the OP topic of discussion is not wrong because it something that the Bible does talk about.

No problem, it happens....

My questions are not about Right and Wrong...I wouldnt offer you that fruit, as I do not partake of it myself. This is just a discussion for those willing to hear it. The bible discusses the sin in me...... I guess I havent come to the point yet where i can use it to talk about the sins in those around me.

What I have obtained came by grace and not by any work of my own.....therefore I have nothing to say about what others are or arent doing......because I did nothing.....

Thanks for trying to help me reach your level of understand.....maybe one day I will....
 
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Yes, we can. I know for sure.
Well - of course, you do not literally - We simply don't have that evidence. But I acknowledge that what you mean is you have a complete faith. I accept that.

How can you understand God without getting to know Him?

Well I think thats what everyone tries to do - No matter your religion. We try to understand the very meaning of life, understand our universe and the things around us, and understand the nature of God
 
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Not all Christians see religions divisively. No all enter an understanding that those worshipping God from another part of the world, must be wrong, because they adopt a separate way of worshipping and use another set of documents to support the paradigm of their religion.

I think there is a great commonality in regions of the world. NONE of us knows for certain that what we say is true - that's a matter of faith and intellect. We cannot know for certain that Jesus was the son of God - that is a concept of faith.

Nor can Moslems say with certainty that Mohammed ascended into heaven - that is a matter of faith for them, not fact.

For me, those things are not so important. I recognise that just because something is written, does not mean it's true. What's important is to strive towards an understanding of God, and the meaning of life.



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You are most welcome.
I am so glad Jesus has delivered you from that.
Praise God indeed.

May the Lord bless you and keep you in everything you do, Emli. I am so grateful to have another sister to talk with involving the passion and love we both have for the Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen! Praise God!

I am grateful too, and you are a blessing to me. It is strengthening to me to read your posts and also enlightening.
 
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I see spiritual events for my internalization and preparation for glory. But I can understand how a literal interpretation can lead one to believe that the sins of others are being discussed.

How is it that you see these scriptures as a reason that one should discuss the sins of others? Do you see a discussion of sins here...or are they stating actions that should be taken place once sin is found? Do you believe one, or maybe the first, action is to have a discussion about it?

Can we not talk about those individuals in the Bible for our learning? Is not all Scripture for instruction in righteousness so that the man of God may be perfect unto every good work?

Yes, I agree with being quick with the removal of sin. What I fail to understand, is how having a group conversation about the sin, is being quick with it's removal.

The Bible is full of warnings not to sin. Are you saying we cannot discuss those Scripture verses?

You said:
No problem, it happens....

My questions are not about Right and Wrong...I wouldnt offer you that fruit, as I do not partake of it myself. This is just a discussion for those willing to hear it. The bible discusses the sin in me...... I guess I havent come to the point yet where i can use it to talk about the sins in those around me.

Paul talked against sin and so did other believers. Are you saying we cannot be like them? If so, what verse or passage says this. Granted, I am not saying we should make a habit to focus on the sins of others as a way of life. We should first judge ourselves and work at living holy and righteous before the Lord and let others know that sinning is wrong if GOD places that situation into our life for us to tell that truth. For would you not tell a drunkard to not sin even more by driving home drunk? Would you not warn your children of committing certain sins to protect them? Would you not correct your children if they did wrong? If a fellow believer was doing something sinful at the Bible study, would you not speak up and or not fellowship with them anymore? There has to be a point where you do not tolerate sin in others. If not, then it means we are putting our stamp of approval on their evil deeds.

What I have obtained came by grace and not by any work of my own.....therefore I have nothing to say about what others are or arent doing......because I did nothing.....

Thanks for trying to help me reach your level of understand.....maybe one day I will....

Not true. You did have to call unto the Lord for forgiveness to be saved. Without doing that, no salvation would have been available to you. Without that act, God could not save you. God did not force you to seek His forgiveness. He may have nudged you and opened your eyes to repent, but He did not force you to repent. If God did force you to be saved (and it was nothing you did), then why does God command all men to repent? Why does God give us a Bible with many commands in it?
 
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Yes I have seen these youtube videos and similar ones from other religions.

Did you watch these particular videos?
Did you read the tract and consider acting upon it?
 
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Well - of course, you do not literally - We simply don't have that evidence. But I acknowledge that what you mean is you have a complete faith. I accept that.
Yes, literally. I have seen evidence, and a lot if it. I have seen God's power, His goodness, His love, His miracles, heard His voice, and I have had supernatural experiences that was so powerful I could barely grasp them. It's all real. Everything in the Bible is true. Heaven and Hell, The Holy Trinity, Holy Angels and also fallen angels. The Father is real, Jesus is real, the Holy Spirit is real. I can feel His holiness. I have seen Him heal physically, emotionally and spiritually. I have cast out demons in His name. I have seen Him change the weather instantly after prayer and even commanded the weather in His name. That is literal evidence. Could this all be real if Scripture wasn't true?

Well I think thats what everyone tries to do - No matter your religion. We try to understand the very meaning of life, understand our universe and the things around us, and understand the nature of God
Of course, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's good. But if one doesn't seek God and ask Him (which is what I did) then how can you understand Him? It's like with science. If we simply guess, and our methods give us unclear results that are different every time, which proves that it is unreliable, should we not change our methods?
 
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Did you watch them?
Did you read the tract and consider acting upon it?
Jason - you are drifting away from the OP. The question was asking why people across the world don't necessarily accept Jesus was the son of God. You seem to be going off on an evangelical tangent.
 
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