Yeshua HaDerekh
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You pointed it out yourself. “For these things were done that the scripture should be fulfilled, ‘Not one of His bones shall be broken’” ( John 19:36 ) I've often mused about the fact that given a conspicuous opportunity to point out a parallel between Jesus and the passover, John ignored the similarity altogether and pointed instead to a scripture of prophecy.
Psalm 34:20 — He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
Prophecy fulfilled.
I "keep pushing the chagigah" because if a person is objective about the scriptures, there is an obvious contradiction that needs to be resolved. The Synoptic gospels say that Jesus ate the passover at the last supper, which necessarily means that the last supper was on the 14th. But John relates how the priests were trying to avoid defilement, because they wanted to eat the passover, which also indicates that the day of the crucifixion was the 14th. Both can't be true.
That leaves only four explanations. Either the Synoptics are correct and John is wrong, John is correct and the Synoptics are wrong, either of which leaves us with a contradiction (which I reject), else the Synoptics somehow harmonize with John, or John somehow harmonizes with the Synoptics.
As for the Synoptics harmonizing with John, it is simply impossible. The afternoon preceding the last supper was the first day of unleavened bread, when the passover was slain. There is no way to interpret that differently than that it was the 14th. I've thought of every scenario I can, had these arguments with people like you to see what sort of things they would come with ... it's just not possible. There is no way to conclude anything other than a 14th last supper in the Synoptics. It can't be done.
So if the first two options result in a contradiction, which I do not accept, and the third option is impossible, that only leaves the option of harmonizing John with the Synoptics. And this is very easily done. John makes only three suspect statements, and all three have viable answers that cause his gospel to harmonize with the other three rather than contradict them.
Ergo, in the interest of gospel harmony, the priests were desiring to eat the chagigah, also called the passover.
All other solutions leave us with a contradiction.
As a matter of hermeneutics, we know from all three of the other gospels that Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation. From all four gospels, we know that he was crucified during the passover holiday. And from the Synoptics, we know that he ate the passover at the last supper.
Therefore, the "preparation of the passover" is not a term synonymous with the eve of the passover. Nor does it say that it was the preparation for the passover. It was simply the day of preparation during passover, or Friday of passover week.
Any reasonable person can see the correlation. There are, in fact, a number of study Bibles available on the market that give this very same interpretation.
Concerning your questions of fulfilled prophecy ... you seem to be under the impression that everything had to happen in a specific way, that Jesus had to somehow mimic the rituals to the letter. And I have only this to say about it: They didn't put a piece of Jesus in a sheaf and wave him around on Sunday. They didn't roast him on Friday. His blood wasn't drained into a bowl and poured on the altar. He wasn't killed in the temple.
That he died so death would pass us over is fulfillment enough. If you insist that the ritualistic processes had to be carried out to the letter, then I declare to you that Jesus didn't fulfill his passover duty at all. There are simply too many aspects of the passover ritual that Jesus didn't fulfill according to the ritualistic specifics.
Nevertheless, I've said this before, and I'll say it again ... theology does not dictate chronology. Relative to chronology, it doesn't matter what spiritual purposes Jesus was meant to serve. The gospels still say that he died on the 15th. And that is the part you are refusing to see.
You still have problems with your theory. The Chagigah COULD have bones broken, in fact it could be cut apart. Yom HaBikkrim is on the 16th, not the 17th. I could go on and on. None of this seems to bother you in the least. We are off timelines by one day it seems, but what one day makes a difference! You say prophecy fulfilled...a Pesakh prophecy...not a Chagigah prophecy.
Mine: Erev Pesakh/14th...Yeshua holds the "last supper" before the fast of the firstborn which occurs during the daylight hours of the 14th. Pesakh..14th Yeshua dies as the Pascal Lamb of God and is buried before sunset. Shabbat...15th Yeshua is in the tomb. Yom HaBikkurim...16th Yeshua rises from death. He ascends and presents His firstfruit offering to The Father. The Father accepts it.
Your theory: Chag HaMatzot...15th Yeshua holds the last supper. Over night, on a feast day, the Sanhedrin convicts Him. The next morning, on a feast day, He is tried, convicted, beaten and killed as a Chagigah. He was buried and then rose on the 17th.
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