LDS Matthew 22 & Eternal Marriage

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I see no real purpose in siting LDS resources as their doctrine of Eternal Marriage is one of their core doctrines and is found in all of their churches materials.

Telling someone that they can't use their own materials to define their own beliefs is, functionally, the same as saying that you're not up to an actual debate as you can't handle any terms but your own.

It'd be like me telling you do define and defend your beliefs without referencing the New Testament.
 
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Telling someone that they can't use their own materials to define their own beliefs is, functionally, the same as saying that you're not up to an actual debate as you can't handle any terms but your own.

It'd be like me telling you do define and defend your beliefs without referencing the New Testament.

If you want to site LDS sources concerning your doctrine of Eternal Marriage go right ahead. I merely stated that I was not going to post any sources. Most people have a basic understanding of the doctrine so I see no necessity for posting the material. But if you want to then have at it.
 
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If you want to site LDS sources concerning your doctrine of Eternal Marriage go right ahead. I merely stated that I was not going to post any sources. Most people have a basic understanding of the doctrine so I see no necessity for posting the material. But if you want to then have at it.

LDS - Matthew 22 & Eternal Marriage -> Post #51

I'll take your apology now.
 
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Now as to the OP itself -

This is a very, very old and tired allegation, one that has been dispensed with time and time again.

Mormon Answers: Love, Dating, and Marriage for Mormons (Latter-day Saints)

The above link will take you to an apologetics website where the matter is discussed. The section is long, but it breaks the argument down into a very simple yet detailed fashion.

The gist of it is that the passage in Matthew is, by and large, being misapplied in the argument, primarily due to a lack of understanding of LDS theology.

LDS theology holds that the marriage ordinances must be done on Earth, and so must be done vicariously on behalf of those who are deceased. Once done on Earth, however, if the couple provide their consent then it is in power throughout the eternities. Thus, the reason why people aren't marrying on the other side is that the matter will be taken care of here.

Lesson 15: Eternal Marriage

The above is a chapter from a church instructional manual on marriage. This should provide more detail.

Not what Jesus said.
 
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Now as to the OP itself -

This is a very, very old and tired allegation, one that has been dispensed with time and time again.

Mormon Answers: Love, Dating, and Marriage for Mormons (Latter-day Saints)

The above link will take you to an apologetics website where the matter is discussed. The section is long, but it breaks the argument down into a very simple yet detailed fashion.

The gist of it is that the passage in Matthew is, by and large, being misapplied in the argument, primarily due to a lack of understanding of LDS theology.

LDS theology holds that the marriage ordinances must be done on Earth, and so must be done vicariously on behalf of those who are deceased. Once done on Earth, however, if the couple provide their consent then it is in power throughout the eternities. Thus, the reason why people aren't marrying on the other side is that the matter will be taken care of here.

Lesson 15: Eternal Marriage

The above is a chapter from a church instructional manual on marriage. This should provide more detail.

Jesus clearly stated that people will not be married in the resurrection in Matthew 22. Your verbal gymnastics don’t provide a pathway around his word. It a heresy to state otherwise to what Jesus has spoken on the issue.
 
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There is no way the Mormons can win this one. As with so many other things, the scriptures and all of the Church since day one have been clear on this issue. There is no marriage in heaven, and certainly no celestial polygamy, as Mormons have been sold on by their leaders even after the abolition of polygamy in their religion. Jeff Lindsay is no apostle of Christ, but a worker of iniquity trying to justify the unjustifiable.
 
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Can someone please explain to me what LDS is? To answer on the topic, we shall not marry in the next world/heaven. It is very simple to understand why we will not marry, I shall give my opinion but I cannot guarantee that it is the truth. One: when we come back into the new world and heaven, we will be brothers and sisters. Brothers and sisters do not marry. They are family. Two: if we marry we work together with our partner to achieve a nice life for the both of us. This is not how things work in the new world/heaven. In the new world/heaven we will work together with all. We will not separate us and from each other by forming pairs. No we will live together and work together on the world God had intended for us. If we marry, we only work on our world. On the world you and your close family live in. This does not work. If we work like this there will be many problems. Their will be war, starvation, poverty and separation. This will not be in the new world/heaven. We will work together on one world, the world everyone lives in instead of the one world we work on now, in which you and your close family lives in.

LDS stands for Latter-day Saints. They are usually called Mormons by non-LDS. They belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Their new prophet told them to stop using the nickname "Mormon."
 
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The defense,* "No one will get married in heaven, but if they got married before then that will still be in place," is correct, though, as Christ says:

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

"Marry" and "given in marriage" correspond to "get," here, as far as I can tell. ("Given in marriage" is for woman who were sold into marriage, basically, unless I'm misunderstanding the point of the word "given" in this.)

*EDIT: The technical defense, that is, that there is no absolute logical contradiction between what Jesus said and what the LDS Church teaches. Whether the classical Church tends to be as "romantic" about love, as the modern LDS one does, is a different issue.
 
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The defense,* "No one will get married in heaven, but if they got married before then that will still be in place," is correct, though, as Christ says:

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

"Marry" and "given in marriage" correspond to "get," here, as far as I can tell. ("Given in marriage" is for woman who were sold into marriage, basically, unless I'm misunderstanding the point of the word "given" in this.)

*EDIT: The technical defense, that is, that there is no absolute logical contradiction between what Jesus said and what the LDS Church teaches. Whether the classical Church tends to be as "romantic" about love, as the modern LDS one does, is a different issue.

Thank you for attempting to understand instead of mocking or belittling.
 
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