Are You A Sinner?

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So do you strive to obey each and every literal command of Christ, nine of the Ten Commandments, as well as every other command in the NT?

Yes, for the Bible teaches that if I do not keep Christ's commandments, I really do not love Jesus.
Jesus says, "if you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15).
Can a person who does not truly love Jesus go to Heaven?
Also see John 15:10.

Talk is cheap, and actions speak louder than words.
For why do you think Jesus had a problem with the Pharisees?
It is because they ignored the weightier matters of the Law like love, faith, justice and mercy (See Luke 11:42, and Matthew 23:23).

 

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Please keep in mind that the Pharisees believed in "sonship salvation" (Which is a belief that is taught in many churches today). The Pharisees thought they were saved based on the fact that they were of their father Abraham. But yet, they lived wickedly (John 8:44). Jesus said to them that he that is of God hears (obeys) God's Word (See John 8:47). Today, many use this same kind of belief but instead of Abraham, they use Jesus as their sonship belief instead of Abraham. In other words, many today believe they can sin and still be saved because of their sonship belief.

But Jesus was not in support of this kind of thinking.

 

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Yes, for the Bible teaches that if I do not keep Christ's commandments, I really do not love Jesus.
Jesus says, "if you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15).
Can a person who does not truly love Jesus go to Heaven?
Also see John 15:10.

Talk is cheap, and actions speak louder than words.
For why do you think Jesus had a problem with the Pharisees?
It is because they ignored the weightier matters of the Law like love, faith, justice and mercy (See Luke 11:42, and Matthew 23:23).

So you would not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, lame, blind and beggars so you may receive your reward in heaven?
You would leap for joy if you were persecuted?
You would tell no one you fasted, if you did so?
If someone stole something of yours, you would give them more than what they stole, with love in your heart for them?
You allways love your enemies, those who may be unkind to you in anyway?

 

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So you would not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, lame, blind and beggars so you may receive your reward in heaven?
You would leap for joy if you were persecuted?
You would tell no one you fasted, if you did so?
If someone stole something of yours, you would give them more than what they stole, with love in your heart for them?
You allways love your enemies, those who may be unkind to you in anyway?

Why yes, of course I would do these things. Why wouldn't you want to do these things?
Granted, there are times, I may get angry on rare occasion when somebody treats me unfairly, but I then strive to immediately then stop and seek God's forgiveness and pray for them and strive to be loving with them in return. I do not harbor hate towards anyone but I love all people. For I am commanded by God to do so. The alternative to not loving God by not keeping His commands is not an attractive option.

 

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Why yes, of course I do these things. Don't you do these things?
Granted, there are times, I may get angry on rare occasion when somebody treats me unfairly, but I immediately then stop and seek God's forgiveness and pray for them and strive to be loving with them in return. I do not harbor hate towards anyone but I love all people. For I am commanded by God to do so. The alternative to not loving God by not keeping His commands is not an attractive option.

So you claim to ceaselessly obey all of those examples of obeying Christ's commands?
You would be the first Christian I have met who does so.
But you do admit to sin, for you repent at your anger, when you have it

 

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So you claim to ceaselessly obey all of those examples of obeying Christ's commands?
You would be the first Christian I have met who does so.
But you do admit to sin, for you repent at your anger, when you have it

It's not an ongoing persistent problem in my life. I am not holding on to hate towards others in my heart. My past sin that was forgiven by my confessing sin is erased and I generally believe I walk uprightly most days. Granted, only God can truly know and judge what I do in the end, but I strive every day to obey His commands. For again, what is the alternative? It's not an attractive option at all if you were to take seriously what God's commands actually say. The commands are not suggestions. They are commands because we have to do them. If we do not do what God commands of us, we are seeking to make ourselves our own god and worshiping God as we please. We know with Cain, that his version of worship did not really work out all too well for him in the end. Why? Because he did not obey God's commands. He did his own thing.

 

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It's not an ongoing persistent problem in my life. I am not holding on to hate towards others in my heart. My past sin that was forgiven by my confessing sin is erased and I generally believe I walk uprightly most days. Granted, only God can truly know and judge what I do in the end, but I strive every day to obey His commands. For again, what is the alternative? It's not an attractive option at all if you were to take seriously what God's commands actually say. The commands are not suggestions. They are commands because we have to do them. If we do not do what God commands of us, we are seeking to making ourselves our own god and worshiping God as we please. We know with Cain, that his version of worship did not really work out all too well for him in the end.

BTW
You wrote:
''Why yes, of course I would do these things. Why wouldn't you want to do these(obey the examples of Christ's literal commands I gave you)things?''

You would do them, or you allways do, do them? could you confirm which is true?

 

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BTW
You wrote:
''Why yes, of course I would do these things. Why wouldn't you want to do these(obey the examples of Christ's literal commands I gave you)things?''

You would do them, or you allways do, do them? could you confirm which is true

Because I re-read what you wrote and corrected the post accordingly to fit what you said.

 

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For you used the word "would" several times in your post. I did not catch that initially. So I re-edited my post to fit what you said.

 

[daydreamer40]

Because I re-read what you wrote and corrected the post accordingly to fit what you said.

Let me ask you again. Do you, at all times/comntinuously:
not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, lame, blind and beggars so you may receive your reward in heaven?
You allways leap for joy if you were persecuted?
You tell no one you fasted, if you did so?
If someone stole something of yours, you would give them more than what they stole, with love in your heart for them?
You allways love your enemies, those who may be unkind to you in anyway?

 

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So what are your excuses for not obeying God's commands?
Why would God put His commands (in a very detailed way) within His Word for us to just later ignore them. If we were talking about the Old Covenant, then that is one thing because it is a covenant that was given to Israel for a certain period of time. But the New Covenant? We are New Covenant believers and we are to believe what the New Covenant Scriptures say, right? If we are to follow the New Covenant, the commands come with that. If you don't want to follow the commands in the NT, then you are not really following the New Covenant, but you are doing your own thing and making excuses.

 

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So what are your excuses for not obeying God's commands?
Why would God put His commands (in a very detailed way) within His Word for us to just later ignore them. If we were talking about the Old Covenant, then that is one thing because it is a covenant that was given to Israel for a certain period of time. But the New Covenant? We are New Covenant believers and we are to believe what the New Covenant Scriptures say, right? If we are to follow the New Covenant, the commands come with that. If you don't want to follow the commands in the NT, then you are not really following the New Covenant, but you are doing your own thing and making excuses.

Let me ask you again. Do you, at all times/continuously:
not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, lame, blind and beggars so you may receive your reward in heaven?
You allways leap for joy if you are persecuted?
You tell no one you fasted, if you did so?
If someone stole something of yours, you would give them more than what they stole, with love in your heart for them?
You allways love your enemies, those who may be unkind to you in anyway?

 

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Let me ask you again. Do you, at all times/comntinuously:
not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, lame, blind and beggars so you may receive your reward in heaven?
You allways leap for joy if you were persecuted?
You tell no one you fasted, if you did so?
If someone stole something of yours, you would give them more than what they stole, with love in your heart for them?
You allways love your enemies, those who may be unkind to you in anyway?

I strive to obey all these things. I pray that they are an every day thing in time. I have a job and bills to pay and a wife and many other things going on. God's Word does not say that we will be condemned for not doing certain of these things. But yet, on some of these things, they are tied to salvation. God does not say that if you do not invite the poor to your home every day, you are going to be condemned in hell. But I do not seek to not obey these things like many in the church today. Many in the churches today try to lump all the commands together and say if you are not doing them all every day, you are condemned. But they do not realize that not all sins are the same (1 John 5:16-17). For them, they believe that you cannot keep God's laws. This is proof that we should not obey God's laws because it is impossible for them. But Jesus said that with man this is not possible, but with God all things are possible.

My question to you is.... why wouldn't you want to obey God?
Why wouldn't you want to do everything that He commands of you?
Because it is impossible?
Walking on water would be impossible, but God does not command us to do that.
Then again, Peter was able to walk for a little while on the water.
But it was a lack of his faith in the Lord why he later sank.
People today do not have faith in what God's Word says.
They do not believe that God's commands are for them (and they are).

 

[daydreamer40]

I strive to obey all these things. I pray that they are an every day thing in time. I have a job and bills to pay and a wife and many other things going on. God's Word does not say that we will be condemned for not doing certain of these things. But yet, on some of these things, they are tied to salvation. God does not say that if you do not invite the poor to your home every day, you are going to be condemned in hell. But I do not seek to not obey these things like many in the church today. You lump all the commands together and say if you are not doing them all every day, you are condemned. So then this is proof that we should not obey God's laws because it is impossible. But Jesus said that with man this is not possible, but with God all things are possible.

My question to you is.... why wouldn't you want to obey God?
Why wouldn't you want to do everything that He commands of you?
Because it is impossible?
Walking on water would be impossible, but God does not command us to do that.
Then again, Peter was able to walk for a little while on the water.
But it was a lack of his faith in the Lord why he later sank.
People today do not have faith in what God's Word says.
They do not believe that God's commands are for them (and they are).

Thank you, you admit you yourself do not allways obey all of Christ's commands, and probably do not even try and obey them all. Does this mean you do not love Christ? According to your scriptural quote

 

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Thank you, you admit you yourself do not allways obey all of Christ's commands, and probably do not even try and obey them all. Does this mean you do not love Christ? According to your scriptural quote?

That is your assessment and not God’s assessment. I am also not seeking to making excuses to not obey Him like many today. I strive every day to do what He commands. I have faith that I will do all of what He commands in time (unlike others).

 

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That is your assessment and not God’s assessment. I am also not seeking to making excuses to not obey Him like many today. I strive every day to do what He commands. I have faith that I will do all of what He commands in time (unlike others).

you wrote:

''Yes, for the Bible teaches that if I do not keep Christ's commandments, I really do not love Jesus.
Jesus says, "if you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15).
Can a person who does not truly love Jesus go to Heaven?''

God's laws are not arbitary, you cannot pick and choose which ones you obey and which ones you do not obey(if you believe you must obey all the literal commands in the New Testement) According to your belief, you must be a sinner, therefore your answer to the ops question is:
Yes, Christians are sinners

 

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I believe there is a level of not loving Jesus that is a salvation issue. This relates to keeping God’s commands. But which ones clearly condemn us? Read your New Testament and it will tell you. Most of the time, people who do not want to obey God make stuff up stuff in regards to God’s commands. They say not keeping all of God’s commands will condemn and that is why need a Savior to just believe on.

 

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you wrote:

''Yes, for the Bible teaches that if I do not keep Christ's commandments, I really do not love Jesus.
Jesus says, "if you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15).
Can a person who does not truly love Jesus go to Heaven?''

God's laws are not arbitary, you cannot pick and choose which ones you obey and which ones you do not obey(if you believe you must obey all the literal commands in the New Testement) According to your belief, you must be a sinner, therefore your answer to the ops question is:
Yes, Christians are sinners

Then I will be condemned if I fail to love God by keeping His Word if I do not measure up. I am not above God’s Word any more than you are. But God and His Word determines which laws disobeyed will bring death and to what degree we are to keep them that brings death. I told you before that disobedience to the command in baptism is not a salvation issue. See 1 Peter 3:21. So while one can say that disobeying this command can mean one is not loving Jesus, it is not the kind of lack of love that would keep them out of Heaven. But there are other basic requirements that you do need to keep to say one loves Jesus on a basic level. If a believer is murdering and raping others, there is a good chance they are not saved.

 

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Look at the Parable of the unprofitable servant (See Matthew 25).

 

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Then I will be condemned if I fail to love God by keeping His Word if I do not measure up. I am not above God’s Word any more than you are. But God and His Word determines which laws disobeyed will bring death and to what degree we are to keep them that brings death. I told you before that disobedience to the command in baptism is not a salvation issue. See 1 Peter 3:21. So while one can say that disobeying this command can mean one is not loving Jesus, it is not the kind of lack of love that would keep them out of Heaven. But there are other basic requirements that you do need to keep to say one loves Jesus on a basic level. If a believer is murdering and raping others, there is a good chance they are not saved.

Justification of obeying the law requires total obedience to it. So anyone who believed obeying all new testament commands is justification before God would have to obey each and every one to be justified.