Obama on Trump: How hard can it be to say 'Nazis are bad'?

[tulc]

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/405576-obama-how-hard-can-it-be-to-say-nazis-are-bad

In a fiery speech at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Obama directly took on Trump over one of the most controversial moments of his presidency, when he equivocated in offering blame for violence last summer between white supremacist and Nazis, and their opponents, last year in Charlottesville, Va.



"We are Americans. We’re supposed to stand up to bullies, not follow them," Obama said. "We’re supposed to stand up to discrimination and we’re sure as heck supposed to stand up clearly and unequivocally to Nazi sympathizers.
"How hard can that be? Saying that Nazis are bad."

tulc(would have thought this was a pretty easy call also)

 

[Albion]

Trump could easily ask why Obama could not bring himself to say that Islamic terrorists are bad.

 

[thecolorsblend]

"Can we lose 1,000 seats nationwide in just eight years? Yes, we can!"

 

[tulc]

So...no one can deny that it's not hard to do, just that President Trump has a hard time doing it?
tulc(loves watching the "distraction dance" President Trump supporters go into in these threads)

 

[Chesterton]

"How hard can that be? Saying that Nazis are bad."

ALL nazis are bad? That's generalizing. That's racist.

 

[RDKirk]

ALL nazis are bad? That's generalizing. That's racist.

"Nazi" is not a race, it's a political party.

 

[TuxAme]

Trump could easily ask why Obama could not bring himself to say that Islamic terrorists are bad.

If I could post pictures, you would've earned yourself a "thug life" gif.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

One can demonstrate against the removal of Confederate monuments without being a Nazi...

 

[Chesterton]

"Nazi" is not a race, it's a political party.

Sorry. I meant to say "sexist".

 

[Gigimo]

One can demonstrate against the removal of Confederate monuments without being a Nazi...

I wonder how many statues and other historical artifacts the Nazis destroyed during their reign of terror?

 

[Afra]

Trump could easily ask why Obama could not bring himself to say that Islamic terrorists are bad.

Does one excuse the other?

 

[Albion]

Does one excuse the other?

It was Obama who made news with his hypocritical claim here. Therefore, it is Obama who has to be corrected. What's more the two situations are not identical, as your question seems to me to suggest they are. Trump has condemned Nazis, while Obama never has come around on Islamic terrorism.

 

[tulc]

It was Obama who made news with his hypocritical claim here. Therefore, it is Obama who has to be corrected. What's more the two situations are not identical, as your question seems to me to suggest they are. Trump has condemned Nazis, while Obama never has come around on Islamic terrorism.

Wow, you should start a thread about that.
tulc(notices Albion has 2 posts in this thread that aren't actually about this thread just a couple of whataboutisms)

 

[Go Braves]

Trump could easily ask why Obama could not bring himself to say that Islamic terrorists are bad.

Well I remember him condemning ISIL repeatedly. But no, he didn't say them there Islams are bad.

 

[Gigimo]

Trump could easily ask why Obama could not bring himself to say that Islamic terrorists are bad.

But he tried to compare Christians to them after he said no religion is responsible for terrorism, go figure.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Well I remember him condemning ISIL repeatedly.

Al-Qaeda has condemned ISIL too. However, Al-Qaeda felt no need to argue that ISIL was "not Islamic".

 

[Yarddog]

Trump could easily ask why Obama could not bring himself to say that Islamic terrorists are bad.

Well, Trump did ask over and over. The reason they chose not to use the term was because they didn't want people to blame all Muslims for what a small minority did. https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject....al-islamic-terrorism-cnn-town-hall/index.html

 

[FireDragon76]

But he tried to compare Christians to them after he said no religion is responsible for terrorism, go figure.

There are Christian terrorists. They harass and bomb abortion clinics, typically.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

I just remembered this tidbit:

Maher: If Americans Have To Choose Between A Party That Won't Even Say "Islamic Terrorism" And Trump, They'll Choose Trump

...and the following November showed him to be right.

 

[Go Braves]

Al-Qaeda has condemned ISIL too. However, Al-Qaeda felt no need to argue that ISIL was "not Islamic".

You make an excellent point about how President Obama was accurate & made a point to separate his comments from totally ignorant ones that stem from hate. Some modern-day Nazis may be Germans but it's important to argue that Germans aren't Nazis.