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I did not. One person. This is my statement again:All of what you've posted here is easily addressed. You've drawn an assumption that the inner man and outter man are two different perssons.
Vines nicely shows that even in Hebrew thought there two ontologically distinct entities, yet even as Paul uses the inner and outer man terms, these are in vital union.
Based on the above, your view is when we die our inner man dies too. This inner man is just our mental capacity and as so ceases to exist upon death. This would make our salvation a matter of mind, or thought and divorce relationship with God spiritually. You are advocating we have no distinct immaterial spirit which remembers. Therefore, for your view the resurrection really is not a resurrection but a reincarnation.When Paul speaks of the renewing of the inner man he's talking about what one believes, how they act, etc. They are renewing their mind. They are changing their thought processes. The inner man refers to the mental aspects of a man.
Resurrection is defined as a rejoining of 'us' to our bodies. If there no longer exists an "us" then what really is happing is a recreation or reincarnation of something other than "us."
You are right this is not soul sleep. This is annihilation based on materialism.
We are one person. One person with an immaterial inner man and an outer man (flesh). If this is not evident then the Incarnation will be difficult for you to explain. As the Incarnation gives us insight into how we were made in the Image and according to the Likeness of God. God is Spirit.It's not a separate person from the body.
This is what Paul exactly makes a distinction of in 2 Corinthians 4. He contrasts being housed in our heavenly bodies (resurrected bodies) and being unclothed. He desires not to be unclothed (I think we all do) but then makes the distinction of absent from these mortal bodies at home with the Lord. This is why you cannot apply "resurrection" to the text. Paul already discussed it and made the distinction clear.Even in your post from Vine's he recognizes that soul, nephesh is translated life. one's life is not something separate from the body. He note Gen 2 where it's a "living soul". This passage shows that a living soul is the combining of the body and the breath of life from God.
The breath of life from God is God making us in His Image and according to His Likeness. That breath of life He gives us, is "us." It is not an impersonal breath from God but the very life God gives which goes back to His presence when our moral body dies.This passage shows that a living soul is the combining of the body and the breath of life from God.
then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it. (Ecclesiastes 12:7)
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