Does God forget people who end up in Hell?

[Far Side Of the Moon]

I was wondering does God remember people in Hell?
I was watching a few videos on the topic...

One said in her experience when she went to hell and she couldn't feel anything.. no love, comfort...nothing

and it made me wonder if God still remembers the souls of those in Hell.

and if he does how does He resist trying to save/help them?

 

[Original Happy Camper]

You do not have a biblical understanding of Hell based on your post.


Intertwined with beliefs about death and spiritism are the doctrines of hell and purgatory. These doctrines are of pagan origin, and were adopted into the Christian culture by the Roman Catholic Church fathers in the 1400s.

The doctrine that the wicked dead are tormented forever is inconsistent with the character of God, who demonstrated infinite love for us in the sacrifice of His Son. Unfortunately, many people have misunderstood these concepts and reject God as a result.

Read more here
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_death_hell_purgatory_geena

 

[Sabertooth]

Though I would prefer annihilation (for the lost), The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant supports an eternal Hell that God, Himself, maintains.

“But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ And he would not, but went and threw him into prison¹ till he should pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers² until he should pay all that was due to him.

“So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.” Matthew 18:28-35

¹Note: the prison was the King's institution!
²The same prison.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

The do indeed suffer forever. Hence its hell. It would be pointless to have a place where you go temporarily to suffer then your magically not suffering anymore. With that said it doesn't mean He enjoys them being there. But its why people have to choose now who they serve. They were warned what happens after.

 

[mmksparbud]

Though I would prefer annihilation (for the lost), The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant supports an eternal Hell that God, Himself, maintains.

“But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ And he would not, but went and threw him into prison¹ till he should pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers² until he should pay all that was due to him.

“So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.” Matthew 18:28-35

¹Note: the prison was the King's institution!
²The same prison.

Key words---

"until he should pay all that was due to him."
​

When the sentence is up---it all ends. There is nothing here about eternal torture.​

 

[Sabertooth]

Key words---

"until he should pay all that was due to him."

When the sentence is up---it all ends. There is nothing here about eternal torture.​

"Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made." Matthew 18:23-25

How long will it take to earn Ŧ10K (plus interest?) while, simultaneously, being tortured...?

HERE are the terms in modern times...

 

[mmksparbud]

"Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made." Matthew 18:23-25

How long will it take to earn Ŧ10K (plus interest?) while, simultaneously, being tortured...?

HERE are the terms in modern times...

They had larger fortunes back then! He was sold, so were his wife and children and everything he had to pay for it. Anyway you want to slice it----this is not an eternal torment--there is an end.

 

[Sabertooth]

Anyway you want to slice it----this is not an eternal torment--there is an end.

The deal to sell his people and stuff was taken off of the table (at the end of the parable). You don't need a prison or torturers to liquidate someone's assets, particularly if those assets alone were enough to satisfy the judgment against him.

 

[mmksparbud]

The deal to sell his people and stuff was taken off of the table (at the end of the parable). You don't need a prison or torturers to liquidate someone's assets, particularly if those assets alone were enough to satisfy the judgment against him.

Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
Mat 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

Bottom line---the sentence is not one for eternity.

It always fascinates me how people, given 2 choices here---with biblical scriptures to back it up, still prefer to picture a God that tortures people forever. There is ample prove, that matches with the rest of scripture, that aligns itself with a God that not just shows love and mercy but is declared that He IS LOVE, that is declared to be totally just and fair, that the scriptures states does not want the death of one sinner, that scriptures says the sinner will pay according to his works--which entails degree of offense---that absolutely shows God's love, mercy, compassion and justice---still prefer to choose the God that will torture forever a 14 year old boy for stealing $5.00 just as long as a dictator that has stolen billions from his people and country! Again I say---the preference speaks more about the individual that wants this view than it does about the God of the bible!

I can't help but wonder--who hurt them so badly that they hate them so much that they want them to be tortured for eternity.

 

[Chinchilla]

No , people in hell are endlessly tormented in presence of the Lamb .

 

[Sabertooth]

No , people in hell are endlessly tormented in presence of the Lamb .

Sad, but true.

 

[mmksparbud]

No , people in hell are endlessly tormented in presence of the Lamb .

Eze_18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

He doesn't want that any should die---much less burn in hell forever! How can anyone who thinks of God as a barbaric torturer far worse than Hitler (at least with him the torture did end)--ever stand in His presence? If you do not know God, He will not know you!
God is grieved that anyone thinks of Him in this ight. That is the equivalent of grieving away the Holy Spirit. That is indeed sad that anyone would prefer to believe that a God who doesn't want one single soul to die, would stand to be able to look at one burning forever---they burn in His presence, why do you think He would want to see even one person burning forever, much less billions of them? Really??---What do you think He is going to do--make popcorn for the saved -- is that going to be the entertainment for God and all the saved for eternity? Why do you want to see Him as that kid of creature??

 

[Chinchilla]

Eze_18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

He doesn't want that any should die---much less burn in hell forever! How can anyone who thinks of God as a barbaric torturer far worse than Hitler (at least with him the torture did end)--ever stand in His presence? If you do not know God, He will not know you!
God is grieved that anyone thinks of Him in this ight. That is the equivalent of grieving away the Holy Spirit. That is indeed sad that anyone would prefer to believe that a God who doesn't want one single soul to die, would stand to be able to look at one burning forever---they burn in His presence, why do you think He would want to see even one person burning forever, much less billions of them? Really??---What do you think He is going to do--make popcorn for the saved -- is that going to be the entertainment for God and all the saved for eternity? Why do you want to see Him as that kid of creature??

Doesn't want does not mean that won't happen .

 

[mmksparbud]

Doesn't want does not mean that won't happen .

What did someone do to you that you have so much hatred to want even the God of this universe to hurt someone for eternity? The wages of sin are death. God told Adam and Eve if they ate of the tree they would die---not that they would burn forever and ever. God does not lie, nor mislead. Nor does He have nothing better to do than to sit for eternity watching billions of people writhe in agony. Why do you want to grieve away the Holy Spirit? You hurt the heart of God to paint Him in this kind of way.

 

[Chinchilla]

What did someone do to you that you have so much hatred to want even the God of this universe to hurt someone for eternity? The wages of sin are death. God told Adam and Eve if they ate of the tree they would die---not that they would burn forever and ever. God does not lie, nor mislead. Nor does He have nothing better to do than to sit for eternity watching billions of people writhe in agony. Why do you want to grieve away the Holy Spirit? You hurt the heart of God to paint Him in this kind of way.

I simply quote what Bible says , didn't write it myself nor do I put my agenda . Because you can't handle the truth it does not mean that the truth suddenly stops existing .
Leviticus 26:29-30 King James Version (KJV)
29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

Romans 12:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

 

[mmksparbud]

I simply quote what Bible says , didn't write it myself nor do I put my agenda . Because you can't handle the truth it does not mean that the truth suddenly stops existing .
Leviticus 26:29-30 King James Version (KJV)
29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

Romans 12:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

It is not I that can't handle the truth, but you. You do not want to accept that the truth is permanent death--annihilation, a total end of sin and sinner. Not a single verse you quoted says a single thing about everlasting torture.

Eze_18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Eze_18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Mat_10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

What is so horrible to you that God would simply destroy the sinner? He would suffer as klong as God determines His offense warrants and then He would die the 2nd death---permanent death. Why does that offend you?

 

[Chinchilla]

It is not I that can't handle the truth, but you. You do not want to accept that the truth is permanent death--annihilation, a total end of sin and sinner. Not a single verse you quoted says a single thing about everlasting torture.

Eze_18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Eze_18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Mat_10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

What is so horrible to you that God would simply destroy the sinner? He would suffer as klong as God determines His offense warrants and then He would die the 2nd death---permanent death. Why does that offend you?

Why do you assume that the soul will be dying once and not endlessly ? Just to push your bias .

Revelation 14:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[mmksparbud]

Why do you assume that the soul will be dying once and not endlessly ? Just to push your bias .

Revelation 14:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

All you have to do is read over the threads about this subject--each verse you put up is disproved.
Read the verses carefully, without preconceived notions----this says the smoke of their torment ascendeth for ever and ever. Light something and watch the smoke--it goes up-and up and up and disappears. It goes up long after the source of the fire has died out.
It is endless death---not endless dying. God is just. merciful, loving. The sinner pays the price He set at creation---death.

 

[Chinchilla]

All you have to do is read over the threads about this subject--each verse you put up is disproved.
Read the verses carefully, without preconceived notions----this says the smoke of their torment ascendeth for ever and ever. Light something and watch the smoke--it goes up-and up and up and disappears. It goes up long after the source of the fire has died out.
It is endless death---not endless dying. God is just. merciful, loving. The sinner pays the price He set at creation---death.

Why would God put people in hell to torment them untill anihilating them in Lake of Fire ?
Why not just anihilate them as fast as they die