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Sorry 1stcenturylady, I suggest you go back and read the chapter as your taking the scriptures out of CONTEXT. I have already posted on this before. You chose to ignore the post and scriptures provided.You quote John a lot, but put your own interpretation on what he means, instead of letting John dictate to you what are the commandments he is referring to. These are the commandments that John refers to when he mentions "commandments." 1 John 3:23 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
Now you make a claim saying I put my own interpretation on the scriptures. I would like to challenge you now to please prove your claim? If you cannot then you do not speak the truth. I have only ever provided the CONTEXT that you leave out by quoting 1 JOHN 3:23 which I will add again here to challenge your claims.
Now I am going to show how you are taking 1 JOHN 3:23 out of CONTEXT. I challenge you to prove your claim I am putting my interpretation on 1 JOHN 3 ok?
The CONTEXT of 1 JOHN 3:23 is 1 JOHN 3:4-15. Let's look at the CONTEXT of your use of a single scripture because it is you that is putting your own interpretation of the scriptures not me.
1 JOHN 3:3-15
3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
4, Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW.
5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, Whosoever abides in him SIN<breaks God's LAW> not: whosoever SIN<breaks God's LAW> hath not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous <Psalms 119:172 All your commandments = RIGHTEOUSNESS>.
8, He that commits SIN <breaks God's LAW> is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, Whosoever is born of God DOES NOT commit SIN<breaks God's LAW>; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot SIN<breaks God's LAW>, because he is born of God.
10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
11, For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12, Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13, Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14, We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loves not his brother abides in death.
15, Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
Some key points..........
v4. SIN = Breaking God's Commandments
v6. Those who knowingly break God's commandments do not know God
v7. Don't be DECEIVED only those who DO NOT break God's commandments are is RIGHTEOUS as HE IS RIGHTEOUS
v8. If you are living in a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN you are following the DEVIL and not GOD (Acts 17:30-31; Heb 10:26:27)
v9. If you are BORN OF GOD you will NOT practice SIN
v10. LOVE AND OBEDIENCE to GOD'S LAW SHOW WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE and DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD'S LAW SHOW THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL
v15. Example of the 7th commandment (Exodus 20: 13) being broken murder. Those who brake God's LAW and SIN DO NOT have ETERNAL LIFE
NOW we have established CONTEXT let's look at your scripture...
1 JOHN 3:23 [23], And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
So the CONTEXT of 1 JOHN 3:23-24 is that those who BREAK GOD 10 Commandments commit SIN and are NOT God's people. Those who OBEY God's Commandments are God's people. v23 BELIEVE Jesus is our Savior and to LOVE another.
HOW DO WE LOVE OR FULFILL THE ROYAL LAW OF LOVE (already posted)
ROMANS 13:8-10 [8], Owe no man any thing, BUT TO LOVE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW. [9], FOR THIS, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT KILL, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, YOU SHALL NOT COVET; and if there be ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly summed up as YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. LOVE WORKS NO ILL TO HIS NEIGHBOR; THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING [doing] OF THE LAW.
James agrees with Paul...
JAMES 2:8-12 [8], If you fulfill the ROYAL LAW according to the scripture, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIBOR AS YOURSELF YOU DO WELL: [9], BUT IF YOU HAVE RESPECT FOR PERSONS YOU COMMIT SIN, AND ARE CONVICTED OF THE LAW AS TRANSGRESSORS. [10], FOR WHOSEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE IS GUILTY OF ALL. [11], For he that said, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, said also, DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU COMMIT NO ADULTERY, YET IF YOU KILL, YOU ARE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF THE LAW. [12], So speak you, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
James and Paul both agree with Jesus...
MATTHEW 22:36-40
[36], Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37], Jesus said to him, You shall LOVE THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38], This is the first and great commandment.
[39], And the second is like to it, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF
[40], ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS [of LOVE; Royal law ] HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets.
You cannot LOVE another while breaking any of God's 10 commandments. Breaking God's LAW only shows you are not following God and do not LOVE another.
Now prove your claim that I have put my own interpretation on 1 JOHN 3 when all I have provdied to you is scripture CONTEXT for 1 JOHN 3:23? If you cannot I suggest you read your bible and take it to God in prayer.
John doesn't mention old covenant commandments devoid of the Spirit. He only speaks of those we keep in the Spirit.
Sorry 1stcenturylady, but no one has God's SPIRIT while living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN.
It seems God's WORD disagrees with you. Now please consider the posts and scriptures provided to you. Each of your posts have been responded to in detail with God's WORD. If you wish to have a conversation please show some coutesy by responding to the posts provided only as a help to the discussion.
May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
Hope this helps.
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