King of the norths threats

[DaDad]

Nothing political .
I've known the king of the north was the US president ...

Didja ever notice how the words "know" and "feel" are often used as though they were synonymous?

And didja ever notice that when people do this, that they're usually (read: absolutely) incorrect?

But do these people ever recognize their failures?

Thanks,
DaDad

 

[DaDad]

I think most understand speculation when they read it. ...

First of all, if you "teach", you'd better be correct. And I've learned that you should NEVER trust someone's doctrine without verifying it YOURSELF. And having said this, I can guide you that the "king of the north" is not who/what you said, or what your "citations" have said either in the geography or the heritage.

Are you sure Bible Prophecy is your "gifting", -- or could it simply be a passing curiosity?

Thanks,
DaDad

 

[OldWiseGuy]

First of all, if you "teach", you'd better be correct. And I've learned that you should NEVER trust someone's doctrine without verifying it YOURSELF. And having said this, I can guide you that the "king of the north" is not who/what you said, or what your "citations" have said either in the geography or the heritage.

So the reason for all this is that you simply disagree with my speculation concerning the KOTN.

Are you sure Bible Prophecy is your "gifting", -- or could it simply be a passing curiosity?

Never said it was.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

And having said this, I can guide you that the "king of the north" is not who/what you said, or what your "citations" have said either in the geography or the heritage.


Thanks,
DaDad

I would indeed be interested in your take on the subject.

 

[DaDad]

I would indeed be interested in your take on the subject.

Hey "Old",

If we start with the simple, we can ARRIVE at the complex.

So where Daniel Chapter 2 describes the FIVE world empires (Ref. 2:45 Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE), the empire of Clay is called the "divided kingdom" -- presumably "divided" between the three superpower and the United Nations.

Then in Chapter 7 one should find the THREE SUPERPOWERS and the UNITED NATIONS! Now please be aware that in Daniel's day the African trade route introduced circularly marked cats (leopards) but there was no trade route to the east, so Daniel had no familiarity with vertically marked cats. Thus China is NOT the nearest descriptor "leopard", but instead is a "TIGER".

So now having established the THREE concurrent SUPERPOWERS, one should consider that Russia is to the NORTH; the U.K./U.S. is further SOUTH; and China is to the EAST.

In Chapter 11 we should find the bulk of events of the 1900's which correlate with two of the superpowers NORTH & SOUTH), and lead to the citation for the EAST in verse 44, and finally to the United Nations in verse 45.

But of course one must be well versed in modern history and in the vernacular of Scripture to assess which events belong to which prophetic aspects.

-- The "condensed version". --

Hope this helps,
DaDad

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Jer 1:15
“For, behold, I am calling all the families of the kingdoms of the north,” declares the LORD; “and they will come and they will set each one his throne at the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all its walls round about and against all the cities of Judah.

This is interesting....Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin. That tribe is listed last in Revelation

Jer 6:1
“Flee for safety, O sons of Benjamin,
From the midst of Jerusalem!
Now blow a trumpet in Tekoa
And raise a signal over [fn]Beth-haccerem;
For evil looks down from the north,
And a great destruction.

Phl 3:5
circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin,
a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee;

2 Corin 6:17 wherefore come-forth out of midst of them! and be being separated! is saying Lord
and an unclean-thing no ye be touching! and I shall be accepting ye

Revelation 18:4 And I hear another voice out of the heaven saying "come forth! out of Her the People of Me......................

Jeremiah 10:22
The sound of a report! Behold, it comes—
A great commotion out of the land of the north—
To make the cities of Judah A desolation, a haunt of jackals.

 

[DaDad]

Jer 1:15
“For, behold, I am calling all the families of the kingdoms of the north,” declares the LORD; “and they will come and they will set each one his throne at the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all its walls round about and against all the cities of Judah.
...

Sounds like a fulfillment of Ezekiel 38 & 39, and Daniel 11:40-43. (And please note that the "king of the south" starts the conflagration, -- and the U.S. is the "king of the south".)

With Best Regards,
DaDad

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Sounds like a fulfillment of Ezekiel 38 & 39, and Daniel 11:40-43. (And please note that were the "king of the south" starts the conflagration, -- the U.S. is the "king of the south".)

With Best Regards,
DaDad

The US is "king of the south??!?!
Oh my....

 

[shilohsfoal]

Didja ever notice how the words "know" and "feel" are often used as though they were synonymous?

And didja ever notice that when people do this, that they're usually (read: absolutely) incorrect?

But do these people ever recognize their failures?

Thanks,
DaDad

Well.Its obvious you don't know.
You guess or you assume.
Dija know what happens when someone assumes?

Maybe someday you will learn to truth.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Sounds like a fulfillment of Ezekiel 38 & 39, and Daniel 11:40-43. (And please note that were the "king of the south" starts the conflagration, -- the U.S. is the "king of the south".)

With Best Regards,
DaDad

So you believe the northern power of north America is king of the south.
Roflol

Not hardly.
The United States is the only country outside of Israel who has a base inside of Israel and it will remain there till the people of the prince takes Jerusalem.

Then will be the time of the end when the united states"king of the north" inihalates many in the middle east.

 

[Choose Wisely]

So you believe the northern power of north America is king of the south.
Roflol

Not hardly.
The United States is the only country outside of Israel who has a base inside of Israel and it will remain there till the people of the prince takes Jerusalem.

Then will be the time of the end when the united states"king of the north" inihalates many in the middle east.

I agree with you. The United States is the King of the North. If that is so who do say is the King of the South?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Hey "Old",

If we start with the simple, we can ARRIVE at the complex.

So where Daniel Chapter 2 describes the FIVE world empires (Ref. 2:45 Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE), the empire of Clay is called the "divided kingdom" -- presumably "divided" between the three superpower and the United Nations.

Then in Chapter 7 one should find the THREE SUPERPOWERS and the UNITED NATIONS! Now please be aware that in Daniel's day the African trade route introduced circularly marked cats (leopards) but there was no trade route to the east, so Daniel had no familiarity with vertically marked cats. Thus China is NOT the nearest descriptor "leopard", but instead is a "TIGER".

So now having established the THREE concurrent SUPERPOWERS, one should consider that Russia is to the NORTH; the U.K./U.S. is further SOUTH; and China is to the EAST.

In Chapter 11 we should find the bulk of events of the 1900's which correlate with two of the superpowers NORTH & SOUTH), and lead to the citation for the EAST in verse 44, and finally to the United Nations in verse 45.

But of course one must be well versed in modern history and in the vernacular of Scripture to assess which events belong to which prophetic aspects.

-- The "condensed version". --

Hope this helps,
DaDad

I like the traditional version better. Four kingdoms, the last being the final of several revivals of the old Roman Empire, which some including myself believe will be the "king of the north" (almost all prophecy where geographical directions are given is given from the point of view of Israel/Jerusalem. Thus the "north" or "north country" are those lands generally north of Israel/Jerusalem.

If America is the "king of the south" we must rule or lead those countries conquered or occupied by the "king of the north". Very unlikely as these are Islamic countries today. It is interesting that Edom (Turkey) will be spared as there is a growing Islamic/Sharia movement there. Apparently the secularists will be in control at that time. That "Moab" and "Ammon" (Jordan) will also be spared is understandable as they don't really side strongly with any of the warring parties in the region since the 1948 "Battle for Jerusalem", preferring instead to pretty much mind their own business.

 

[shilohsfoal]

I agree with you. The United States is the King of the North. If that is so who do say is the King of the South?

In Daniel 11,there are at least three wars between the north and south.The first two wars are the two wars the US has had with Iraq.
Daniel 11:11-Daniel 11:18 mentions both wars.It also speaks of the tens of thousands Saddam killed between the wars .Obama is the raiser of taxes who gave us obamacare(a tax)in Dan 11:20.


The last war will be between several middle eastern countries including Iraq and the Prince in Iran after they attack Israel and US forces stationed there.

 

[Choose Wisely]

Obama is the raiser of taxes who gave us obamacare(a tax)in Dan 11:20.

Trump is the last king of the chapter.
He is the one who worships himself.

You are warm.......but warm only. Someone famously proclaimed............................

And yet what did they do................

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...axes-pledge/gTMnk2hGmIbx4dlPsx8zTM/story.html

After proclaiming he would not raise taxes, he did and lost the next election. So you're not looking for Trump.

 

[shilohsfoal]

You are warm.......but warm only. Someone famously proclaimed............................

And yet what did they do................

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...axes-pledge/gTMnk2hGmIbx4dlPsx8zTM/story.html

He raised taxes before the election and lost.

I understood this administration would move the US embassy to Jerusalem about 15 years ago.

The tabernacle,of the kings palace is its embassy.
The embassy is under the executive branch of govetment located at the white house.

http://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/11-45.htm

Im sure it will be a gorgeous embassy worthy of the name Trump.

 

[Choose Wisely]

In Daniel 11,there are at least three wars between the north and south.The first two wars are the two wars the US has had with Iraq.

Wrong country. Wrong wars. Iraq could not even scare France. They aren't the King of the South. You might check your history to find out what a true King of the South could do.

If you want to find those two wars with Iraq you might check Jeremiah 50 and 51.

 

[Choose Wisely]

I understood this administration would move the US embassy to Jerusalem about 15 years ago.

The tabernacle,of the kings palace is its embassy.
The embassy is under the executive branch of govetment located at the white house.

http://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/11-45.htm

Im sure it will be a gorgeous embassy worthy of the name Trump.

You should read this verse closely and then go back and read the verses before.

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

My guess is your are under 40 or you would see that the verses prior to the raiser of taxes point to someone clearly.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Jer 1:15
“For, behold, I am calling all the families of the kingdoms of the north,” declares the LORD; “and they will come and they will set each one his throne at the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all its walls round about and against all the cities of Judah.

This is interesting....Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin. That tribe is listed last in Revelation

Jer 6:1
“Flee for safety, O sons of Benjamin,
From the midst of Jerusalem!
Now blow a trumpet in Tekoa
And raise a signal over [fn]Beth-haccerem;
For evil looks down from the north,
And a great destruction.

Phl 3:5
circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin,
a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee;

2 Corin 6:17 wherefore come-forth out of midst of them! and be being separated! is saying Lord
and an unclean-thing no ye be touching! and I shall be accepting ye

Revelation 18:4 And I hear another voice out of the heaven saying "come forth! out of Her the People of Me......................

Jeremiah 10:22
The sound of a report! Behold, it comes—
A great commotion out of the land of the north—
To make the cities of Judah A desolation, a haunt of jackals.

Most of the tribe of Benjamin chose to remain with Judah under Rehoboam when Israel was divided into two kingdoms, but was not directly involved in the idolatry of the Jews and Levites. Benjamin apparently was favored in God's eyes as one of the children of Jacob's true love Rachel (as was Joseph). This might account for the warning. Also recall the affection that Joseph-in-Egypt had for his younger brother. God also deemed Joseph to be the legitimate 'firstborn' of Jacob (after Reuben disqualified himself) and thus conferred upon him the birthright blessings that belong to the first born son. So Benjamin too may have had a special status above his half brothers.

 

[shilohsfoal]

You should read this verse closely and then go back and read the verses before.

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

My guess is your are under 40 or you would see that the verses prior to the raiser of taxes point to someone clearly.

The time of the end when Iraq and Iran attack the fortress of the US in Israel as they are told to do in the hadith,the US will wipe most of the middle east out just as Trump threatens Iran .

 

[OldWiseGuy]

While to us it seems that America is the target of Islamic terror it is just a sideshow. Europe is the real target of (middle eastern) Islam. That is why Europe will be forced to take up arms against Islam, possibly in the near future. Islam is already "pushing" at Europe via terrorism, mass immigration of Muslims, proliferation of Mosques, and demands for Sharia law.