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I have been born again and accepted Jesus Christ to my life 6 years ago. I am Catholic btw. Since that time while reading bible I found some contradictions with catholic teachings or confusion. I found that for me it's no difference in what church I am as I think The most important thing is our relationship with Jesus ,but not what church we attend. But also when I start reading bible I get confused with Catholic Church and i feel bad not knowing where is true anymore. It makes me feel like I don't belong neither in Catholic or other churches. I been studying in Vatican theology for a year,but still haven't mad me more clear although it does tract a catholic church as being one of the first and oldest churches ,but trough history there was some bad times where some teachings might changed..Where is the truth some one please help.

I attend a Pentecostal church, and have found it it be true to scripture. It can be hard to find a good church, even research is not always going to come up with the answers, because there are so many opinions out there. When I look for a church I always shop around, sit in a church for a while, see how it "feels", you can often get a good feel for a church by just sitting there and listening.
 
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I attend a Pentecostal church, and have found it it be true to scripture. It can be hard to find a good church, even research is not always going to come up with the answers, because there are so many opinions out there. When I look for a church I always shop around, sit in a church for a while, see how it "feels", you can often get a good feel for a church by just sitting there and listening.
I agree. Within denominations there's a lot of variation. What you really want is the right congregation.
 
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Yourself, myself, and anyone else can (and will, if left alone) walk away from the Bible with our own interpretations. The best remedy to this is to learn about the early Church. More specifically, you should learn about the major councils of the first centuries of Christian history. This will give you an idea of what the first Christians believed, and give you an example to follow.
 
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Friend, you will not find the Catholic church in the bible! This is a sad reality that all catholics must face. I don't want to pick on the catholics, so let's put all denominations in there. Jesus only Built one church, and it was founded by the apostles in Acts 2 (approx. 30 A.D.). therefore only one church can meet those requirements! The catholic church was established as state religion by Constantine (not Jesus) in 325 A.D. (not the right date). look at any denomination and you will find that they teach error, the catholic church is not exempt! Jesus bought His church (Acts 20:28) therefore why would we call ourselves by the ideas of any man? let's follow Jesus alone shall we?
 
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I'm in the same boat. I live in a town with about 50 churches! I have no religious people in my family, not raised religious. But Jesus revealed himself to me so I know he is real. I know this is real. I have prayed about churches and received nothing. I am just going to keep reading. If God wants me in a building he will guide me there.
 
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Read KJV or NKJV The first church in Scriptures was what was set up with Moses in the wilderness. After the Cross Acts to Revelation is what the church should be. In a community of 5000 or less you should be able to gather in a field and all worship together but satan has been very busy...
 
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I have been born again and accepted Jesus Christ to my life 6 years ago. I am Catholic btw. Since that time while reading bible I found some contradictions with catholic teachings or confusion. I found that for me it's no difference in what church I am as I think The most important thing is our relationship with Jesus ,but not what church we attend. But also when I start reading bible I get confused with Catholic Church and i feel bad not knowing where is true anymore. It makes me feel like I don't belong neither in Catholic or other churches. I been studying in Vatican theology for a year,but still haven't mad me more clear although it does tract a catholic church as being one of the first and oldest churches ,but trough history there was some bad times where some teachings might changed..Where is the truth some one please help.
You're at the same place my father was at when he was in Catholic seminary, studying to become a priest. He found the contradictions, he was given unsatisfactory answers, and decided to go with the Bible instead. He dropped out of seminary, met my mom, and the rest is history. I've always known him as a devoted Protestant. Not perfect, but Catholics aren't perfect either, and he also broke chains of a couple generational vices. So if anyone were to judge him by his fruit, go ahead - compare him to his Catholic family. If we're being objective about what that good fruit is from a Biblical standpoint, he wins.
 
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I have been born again and accepted Jesus Christ to my life 6 years ago. I am Catholic btw. Since that time while reading bible I found some contradictions with catholic teachings or confusion. I found that for me it's no difference in what church I am as I think The most important thing is our relationship with Jesus ,but not what church we attend. But also when I start reading bible I get confused with Catholic Church and i feel bad not knowing where is true anymore. It makes me feel like I don't belong neither in Catholic or other churches. I been studying in Vatican theology for a year,but still haven't mad me more clear although it does tract a catholic church as being one of the first and oldest churches ,but trough history there was some bad times where some teachings might changed..Where is the truth some one please help.
What are the things that you see as contradictions?
 
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I'm in the same boat. I live in a town with about 50 churches! I have no religious people in my family, not raised religious. But Jesus revealed himself to me so I know he is real. I know this is real. I have prayed about churches and received nothing. I am just going to keep reading. If God wants me in a building he will guide me there.

God called me to salvation too and I was in a similar boat (although not identical) yet I was equally confused about the great conglomeration of churches and denominations.

We have three churches just on the 2 mile stretch of road between our house and the main road alone.. churches here are plentiful and I think every single Christian denomination is represented here, some of them more than once and it's a small town of less than 1,000.

It leaves any sane person scratching their head, and there is a journey involved in figuring it all out... but it should be figured out. We can't just leave it all aside and pretend it doesn't matter if we attend church because it does matter.

New believers need to be baptised, as well as need in person real life Christian fellowship as we are commanded in Hebrews 10:25

We cant just forsake these things.. they matter. As difficult as searching for His Church and His people can be, it's a journey that you will find teaches you a great many things... it's a learning process, and its time to jump in with both feet and begin with help from His Spirit.

"And behold, "I am with you always, to the end of the age" "

Sometimes He just requires you to start acting upon that faith..
 
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I have been born again and accepted Jesus Christ to my life 6 years ago. I am Catholic btw. Since that time while reading bible I found some contradictions with catholic teachings or confusion. I found that for me it's no difference in what church I am as I think The most important thing is our relationship with Jesus ,but not what church we attend. But also when I start reading bible I get confused with Catholic Church and i feel bad not knowing where is true anymore. It makes me feel like I don't belong neither in Catholic or other churches. I been studying in Vatican theology for a year,but still haven't mad me more clear although it does tract a catholic church as being one of the first and oldest churches ,but trough history there was some bad times where some teachings might changed..Where is the truth some one please help.

The truth is that Church is body of Christ means believers and not a building itself . Christians were meeting in houses DAILY to break the bread , preach , do miracles , prophecy and healing plus they would share the gospel. You won't find such Church today because we are in age of apostasy.

You should find a group of believers in your area who know the gospel of Christ that he died for your sins , rose again and fulfilled the Law - Scriptures from OT so we can know that he was the one promised and we take this gift which God gave us - his Son for free not by doing works Ephesians 2:8-9 , Galatians 2:16 .
If you believe the atonement you get eternal life that means forever from now on not for week untill you sin again . As somebody who was born again you should preach the gospel to unbelievers and grow in faith but it's your decision . God will rewards you for obedience and punish for disobedience because you are his child .

I would suggest checking for non-denom church in your area , maybe you could find some baptist or evangelical denomination.
 
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I have been born again and accepted Jesus Christ to my life 6 years ago. I am Catholic btw. Since that time while reading bible I found some contradictions with catholic teachings or confusion. I found that for me it's no difference in what church I am as I think The most important thing is our relationship with Jesus ,but not what church we attend. But also when I start reading bible I get confused with Catholic Church and i feel bad not knowing where is true anymore. It makes me feel like I don't belong neither in Catholic or other churches. I been studying in Vatican theology for a year,but still haven't mad me more clear although it does tract a catholic church as being one of the first and oldest churches ,but trough history there was some bad times where some teachings might changed..Where is the truth some one please help.


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What are the things that you see as contradictions?

About Bishops / priests .
1 Timothy 3:2-12 King James Version (KJV)
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

About Pope the Holy Father
Matthew 23:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

About rosary
Matthew 6:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

About speaking to dead saints so they can pray for you to God
1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 
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You do realize, I hope, that the Bible is a collection of early Jewish and Catholic writings, compiled by the bishops of the Catholic Church at the instruction of the Pope? There is no teaching of the Catholic Church that conflicts with its own writings. You may have run into confusion, but that isn't a problem with what the Church teaches. It is a problem with your own knowledge and understanding. The Bible tells us that Jesus Christ founded ONE Church, said it was to remain ONE, and promised that ONE Church "The Holy Spirit will guide you into ALL truth", and "Whatsoever you bind upon Earth is bound in Heaven", and "He who hears you hears Me". Either Jesus didn't know what He was talking about, or the one Church He founded cannot teach anything false. The Catholic Church was the only Christian Church for the first 1,000 years of Christianity. At that point the Orthodox Churches broke away. It was another 500 years before Martin Luther defected from the Catholic Church and started the doctrinal chaos of Protestantism. The church he founded had fragmented into a dozen conflicting churches before he died. Today the number of registered Protestant denominations is more than 6,000, plus 20,000 so-called "non-denominational" Protestant churches, the teaching of each one conflicting with the teaching of the others. You can find a Protestant church that teaches just about anything you want to hear. However, truth cannot conflict with truth, therefore it is obvious that a great deal of untruth is being taught through Protestant churches. Meanwhile, the one Church Jesus Christ founded, the Holy Catholic Church,. remains one in belief, one in teaching, one in worship, one in biblical understanding throughout the world after 2,000 years. You just can't beat God's plan. You should sign up for an RCIA course through your local Catholic Church (Rites of Christian Initiation for Adults). It will give you a chance to ask about the various areas you find confusing, and to receive good, reliable answers.
 
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About Bishops / priests .
1 Timothy 3:2-12 King James Version (KJV)
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
That's a practice, not even a doctrine.

Besides, the verse doesn't say that the bishop must currently be married or have ever been married. It only says that, if he is married, he shouldn't seek to remarry if his wife dies before him. This makes the most sense, as Paul elsewhere writes that widowers shouldn't seek to remarry, so that they may devote themselves wholly to God's work (1 Cor 7:8, 32-34).

About Pope the Holy Father
Matthew 23:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Certainly you know the rest of the passage? In particular, the verse right before this one?

But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren.

Jesus must have forgotten that He said this, then? Because just before His Ascension, He told the apostles:

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.

Scripture doesn't always need to be taken literalistically. If we took this course, the Bible would be full of contradictions just as the atheists claim. Jesus said to call no one rabbi, since we have one teacher, but then He turns around and gives the apostles the duty of teaching? Would you have us believe that Jesus had forgotten? Or perhaps the apostles themselves had forgotten, as they frequently refer to their own disciples as their children, and themselves as their fathers. For example, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 4:15,

For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

Jesus was warning against pride. He employed hyperbole to make His point.
About rosary
Matthew 6:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
If only you were there in the garden of Gethsemane to warn Jesus about heaping up vain repetitions, as He Himself spoke the same words all three times (Matthew 26:44).

Or, maybe you recognize that not all repititions are vain, and that Jesus wasn't wrong to do what He did. So, you have to prove that the rosary is a vain repetition.

(Side note, I find it curious how it's always the rosary being targeted, never the use of the chotki, and never the Our Father).

About speaking to dead saints so they can pray for you to God
1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
You are right to say that there is one mediator between God and men- but who mediates between ourselves and Jesus? (who is also God, mind you)

Firstly, you take this verse out of context. Let me remind you that this is from the same chapter which opens with:

First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men

What does it mean to intercede? Wouldn't that be exactly what Bathsheba did for Adonijah (1 Kings 2:19)? In other words, to have someone else bring your petition to someone with the power to grant or deny it? And yet would you say that it's wrong to ask Reverend Tim-Tom to pray for your intentions?

Of course not. Your insistence is that it's wrong for us to ask the saints in heaven- those who have gone before us and have seen God "face to face"- to ask God to grant something we desire. And why is that? It can't be because "the dead can't hear us", because they indeed can. Even the prophet Samuel was called upon by King Saul after he had died, as Saul sought guidance when the Lord had ceased speaking with Him. And Samuel accurately relayed what would happen to Saul the next day (Samuel 28). And then we have the book of Revelation, which makes it sufficiently clear that the saints in heaven are well aware of what is happening on earth- they are the ones presenting our prayers to Jesus. In other words, they are mediating for us. Which brings me to my next point: if we have one mediator between God and man, who is Jesus, who are you to say that there are no mediators between man and Christ?

When you ask your pastor, your husband, your wife, your brother, sister or friend to pray for you, you are doing precisely what Paul urged us to do in the beginning of his epistle, and they are acting as intercessors for us, just as the saints are.
 
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I have been born again and accepted Jesus Christ to my life 6 years ago. I am Catholic btw. Since that time while reading bible I found some contradictions with catholic teachings or confusion. I found that for me it's no difference in what church I am as I think The most important thing is our relationship with Jesus ,but not what church we attend. But also when I start reading bible I get confused with Catholic Church and i feel bad not knowing where is true anymore. It makes me feel like I don't belong neither in Catholic or other churches. I been studying in Vatican theology for a year,but still haven't mad me more clear although it does tract a catholic church as being one of the first and oldest churches ,but trough history there was some bad times where some teachings might changed..Where is the truth some one please help.
Brother,
I would suggest that you start start out by studying all the things the Catholic church has done starting at the inquisitions, What they did to the Waldensians, what they did to the Petrobrusians, what they did to the Anabaptists and what they did for the first thousand 500 years or so to anyone who disagreed with their doctrine. At the same time I would suggest that you question everything the Catholic Church has shown you(2 Timothy 2:15) and study every doctrine not just Catholic doctrine study Pentecostal doctrine, seventh day Adventist doctrine, Study Apostolic doctrine, study Davidian Seventh day Adventist doctrine, and every other doctrine out there. Only by questioning all things can we know what is true.(1 Thess 5:21; 2 timothy 3:16-17; Romans 12:2; Acts 17:11)

Question everything brother, don't believe the Catholic church just because they say they are right and if the Doctrine confuses you then consider that maybe you feel this way because it is false and the Spirit of the Lord is trying to warn you. I have found that when I read a doctrine that is very wrong I get a strong headache and I can feel a strange spirit trying to lead me away, this was the case when I studied with the Mormons, reading their book felt extremely wrong especially when I read it out loud. But that is me personally.

I pray that whatever you do decide to do brother you give it a great deal of consideration, study and prayer, may the Lord God YHWH guide you to the truth and light of his word.
 
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I have been born again and accepted Jesus Christ to my life 6 years ago. I am Catholic btw. Since that time while reading bible I found some contradictions with catholic teachings or confusion. I found that for me it's no difference in what church I am as I think The most important thing is our relationship with Jesus ,but not what church we attend. But also when I start reading bible I get confused with Catholic Church and i feel bad not knowing where is true anymore. It makes me feel like I don't belong neither in Catholic or other churches. I been studying in Vatican theology for a year,but still haven't mad me more clear although it does tract a catholic church as being one of the first and oldest churches ,but trough history there was some bad times where some teachings might changed..Where is the truth some one please help.
Only the Lord can give us the full truth. That is why it's important that we walk with him (1 Thess 5:17).
 
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Brother,
I would suggest that you start start out by studying all the things the Catholic church has done starting at the inquisitions, What they did to the Waldensians, what they did to the Petrobrusians, what they did to the Anabaptists and what they did for the first thousand 500 years or so to anyone who disagreed with their doctrine. At the same time I would suggest that you question everything the Catholic Church has shown you(2 Timothy 2:15) and study every doctrine not just Catholic doctrine study Pentecostal doctrine, seventh day Adventist doctrine, Study Apostolic doctrine, study Davidian Seventh day Adventist doctrine, and every other doctrine out there. Only by questioning all things can we know what is true.

Question everything brother, don't believe the Catholic church just because they say they are right and if the Doctrine confuses you then consider that maybe you feel this way because it is false and the Spirit of the Lord is trying to warn you. I have found that when I read a doctrine that is very wrong I get a strong headache and I can feel a strange spirit trying to lead me away, this was the case when I studied with the Mormons, reading their book felt extremely wrong especially when I read it out loud. But that is me personally.

I pray that whatever you do decide to do brother you give it a great deal of consideration, study and prayer, may the Lord God YHWH guide you to the truth and light of his word.
You would have one dismiss the Catholic faith because of the errors committed by its faithful? One might imagine you would have us abandon Jesus because of Judas.

You don't let human error stand between you and the Truth.
 
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You would have one dismiss the Catholic faith because of the errors committed by its faithful? One might imagine you would have us abandon Jesus because of Judas.

You don't let human error stand between you and the Truth.
No you do not, but a doctrine that endorses the killing of others is not the doctrine of Christ. To this day the catholic Church still endorses violence and killing for country, family, self defense etc. but the law of Christ has always been against it. This is one of many critical flaws in the catholic doctrine, studying the history of the church does not show a history of Godly men(for the greater part, though some within have been saved by faith) but murderers and ungodly that is why I advise this man to seek out the history of the Church and to ignore the thin excuse that it was only by human error these things were done. But if every Pope from the first(Peter was not a pope) to the current has contradicted the Lord's law it is not human error but a pattern of acceptance of sin(from within the church, from it's head(the Pope) to the minor Clergy) and the encouragement of it.
 
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I have been born again and accepted Jesus Christ to my life 6 years ago. I am Catholic btw. Since that time while reading bible I found some contradictions with catholic teachings or confusion. I found that for me it's no difference in what church I am as I think The most important thing is our relationship with Jesus ,but not what church we attend. But also when I start reading bible I get confused with Catholic Church and i feel bad not knowing where is true anymore. It makes me feel like I don't belong neither in Catholic or other churches. I been studying in Vatican theology for a year,but still haven't mad me more clear although it does tract a catholic church as being one of the first and oldest churches ,but trough history there was some bad times where some teachings might changed..Where is the truth some one please help.
The Protestant reformation happened after people did not agree with parts of Roman Catholic doctrine. I do not believe in purgatory. Can not find scriptural basis for the assumption of Mary. I do not pray to saints.

You may search the Bible and Bible commentaries. The Bible is not perfect, but there is hope that studying it may lead to salvation. In the first five books of the Bible, the Hebrews were asked to offer animal sacrifices and burnt offerings to please God and to have their sins forgiven. I was reading Isaiah tonight and in the very first part of Isaiah I read God is not pleased with sacrifices and burnt offerings. I also remember Jesus tipped over the tables of those who sold sacrificial animals in the temple for the merchants had turned "a house of prayer for all nations" into a den of thieves. In Hosea 6:6 (KJV) the prophet wrote, "“For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.”

It seems like a contradiction between whether to sacrifice or not sacrifice, yet one may believe Jesus was sent to preach a better message than burning bulls on a horned altar in Jerusalem.
 
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