sabbath in the bible ~ which day? ~ relevant?

[Cribstyl]

Thanks to all who voted and posted. Let's keep this going.

The next sabbath text

Exodus 5:5

The next first day of the week text is the day that takes place after the day in the text

Exodus 16:25-30

Not a Sabbath text.
The scriptures shows that Ex5:5 was Pharaoh's response to Moses request to taking the people to have a feast unto God. NOTHING TO DO WITH SABBATH
Exo 5:1 - And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness.

(Studies show that this request would have probably taken months to journey from Egypt to Mt. Sinai. Scripture does not specify exactly where God wanted this feast held. The closest wilderness (in Egypt) was approximately 4days away.
It would have taken weeks by feet to get outside of Egypt with all The Children of Israel.)

Isolating text or making partial quotes is how some people find "words" to support Sabbath before it was given. Shameful.

 

[JLB777]

There is no evidence that Abraham observed sabbaths. Merely speculation.

I agree.

There is no command as to how to observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant.



JLB

 

[Cribstyl]

TRUE OR FALSE?
Based on Genesis Chapter1 to Gen 2:1-3, God rested on the seventh day. 100% should know that Sabbath is the seventh day, but not the seventh day of creation.
According to God's own testimony, The Sabbath was given only to the Children of Israel as a sign between Him and them (not the world)

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I agree.
There is no command as to how to observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant.
JLB

Why would you need a commandment to observe the Sabbath when it had already been given with the rest of the Commandments 4000 years earlier and God's people had been keeping it for 4000 years already?

The Sabbath commandment is the 4th commandment of the 10 Commandments given by God to his people.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodsWord]

TRUE OR FALSE?
Based on Genesis Chapter1 to Gen 2:1-3, God rested on the seventh day. 100% should know that Sabbath is the seventh day, but not the seventh day of creation.

What??? The Sabbath is the 7th day of the creation week. God created all things in 6 days and rested on the Sabbath and made it a holy day for all mankind.

According to God's own testimony, The Sabbath was given only to the Children of Israel as a sign between Him and them (not the world)

Well that is not true. Who are God's Israel? When was the Sabbath made and who was it made for? The 7th day Sabbath was made BEFORE sin entered the world for all mankind and kept in the garden of eden.

MARK 2:27 [27], And he said to them, The sabbath was made for man [G444 human being], and not man for the sabbath.

 

[Dkh587]

The simple truth about the 4th commandment
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Ex 20:8 is actually the 4th commandment.

Ex 20:9-10 is HOW to keep the 4th commandment.

Ex 20:11 is WHY to keep the 4th commandment.

In the scriptures God gives several reasons WHY to keep the 4th commandment.
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Mar 2:27 - And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath:
Using a partial quote is designed to change what Jesus is saying to those who accused Him of breaking the Sabbath.
Mark 2:27 Does not reference 'creation' as to when the Sabbath was made for man.
The Sabbath is a sign made to prove to that their God rested on the seventh day.
There is no scriptures that commands man to keep Sabbath prior to the Children of Israel. It's no secret that God testified in the scriptures both when, and to whom Sabbath was given.

Eze 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Did God say I gave Adam my Sabbaths for all humanity to follow or did God made clear that Sabbath was given as a sign between Him and the Children of Israel?
We would contradict several scriptures by adding Sabbath at creation.

The simple truth is that the Sabbath was made for MAN, not the Israelites. Did Christ say Sabbath was made for the Israelites? NO!

He said Sabbath was made for MAN, which is what you and I and everybody else posting on this board is.

As mankind, our duty is to obey God’s commands, which include keeping the Sabbath

Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

 

[JLB777]

Why would you need a commandment to observe the Sabbath when it had already been given with the rest of the Commandments 4000 years earlier and God's people had been keeping it for 4000 years already?

Ok. Present the scriptures that you have from the law of Moses, so we can all study them to see if the way the children of Israel observed the Sabbath has changed under the New Covenant.


JLB

 

[Pyong Ping]

Thanks to all who voted and posted. Let's keep this going.

The next sabbath text

Exodus 5:5

The next first day of the week text is the day that takes place after the day in the text

Exodus 16:25-30

There has been some excellent material shared so far, keep it going.

The next sabbath text

Exodus 16:23

The next first day of the week text is the day that takes place at the beginning of the 7 days, or weeks, and is the first day that takes place after the seventh day of every week in these texts

Exodus 20:8-11

 

[Cribstyl]

What??? The Sabbath is the 7th day of the creation week. God created all things in 6 days and rested on the Sabbath and made it a holy day for all mankind.

I respectfully disagree with your statements and here are some key reasons.
#1. If God ever said that Sabbath is a sign because "I made heaven and earth in 6 day and rested on the seventh day." There should be no confusion that God distinguished His rest from the sign He later required of the Children of Israel.
#2. No scripture anywhere says that God rested on the Sabbath day.
#3. The fact that Sabbath is a sign of God's rest is why the Sabbath is the seventh day.
#4. Your statements contradicts what Moses and God says about the Sabbath. Repeating yourself does not change truth.
Exo 31:17 - It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.


Sabbath "(weekly) is a noun ( "Shabbath") pronounced shab·bäth' always means "a 24hr day of rest". Sabbath begins Friday evening and ends Saturday ev"Sabbathening. TRUE OR FALSE?

"Rested" is a verb, (the time of rest is unspecified unless noted by other words) (Shabath) pronounced "sha-vat"



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Well that is not true. Who are God's Israel? When was the Sabbath made and who was it made for? The 7th day Sabbath was made BEFORE sin entered the world for all mankind and kept in the garden of eden.

MARK 2:27 [27], And he said to them, The sabbath was made for man [G444 human being], and not man for the sabbath.

That's a set up ...you're repeating yourself and proving nothing. Mark 2:27 does not contradaict what has already been proven above.

 

[Dkh587]

#2. No scripture anywhere says that God rested on the Sabbath day.

You quoted a verse showing that God rested on the Sabbath earlier in the same post. You nullified your own argument.

I am really beginning to wonder about some of y’all on this board...

 

[Pyong Ping]

There has been some excellent material shared so far, keep it going.

The next sabbath text

Exodus 16:23

The next first day of the week text is the day that takes place at the beginning of the 7 days, or weeks, and is the first day that takes place after the seventh day of every week in these texts

Exodus 20:8-11

There have been some confusing responses also so far, maybe there can be some clarifying posts to help

The next sabbath text

Exodus 16:25

The next first day of the week text, is the day that takes place at the beginning of the 7 days, or weeks, and is the first day that takes place after the seventh day of every week in these texts

Exodus 31:12-18

Personal update

As I am searching these things, I have come across not a single text so far, that says that sabbath is a person. I see where God rested in Genesis 2:1-3. I see where humans have rested on the seventh day like God. I will keep looking, as it is still early yet.

I see no texts yet which say that sabbath is any one day of the week. I will keep looking.

There are texts which do state that sabbath is the seventh day of the week so far. I will keep looking.

I see no texts yet which say that sabbath is lunar based. I will keep looking.

 

[Cribstyl]

You quoted a verse showing that God rested on the Sabbath earlier in the same post. You nullified your own argument.

I am really beginning to wonder about some of y’all on this board...

If that's the case, I will concede and thank you for enlightenment. Hopefully you will post the verse without smoke screen.

 

[Cribstyl]

The simple truth is that the Sabbath was made for MAN, not the Israelites. Did Christ say Sabbath was made for the Israelites? NO!

He said Sabbath was made for MAN, which is what you and I and everybody else posting on this board is.

Deception is a often as slight twist of the truth. What Jesus said is, "Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath". Claiming that Jesus is referencing "at creation" is debatable at best. Partial quotes are often designed to change context. Mark 2:27 is teaching that Sabbath is for man to enjoy and not to enslaved a man life.
According to Genesis 2, God rested on the seventh day of creation. The context make it clear that God rested from ALL His work. (no more work) By abusing the word "remember' in the 4th commandment to change what Gen 2:1-3 say is also a stunt. The 4th commandment says clearly that God rested on the seventh day.

Jesus said "Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath". Claiming that Jesus is referencing "at creation" is debatable at best. Using this partial quote takes Jesus out of context. Claiming that God rested on the 14th, 21st day... is not according to any scripture. Claiming Creation Sabbath institution is also a myth. Judaism 101 is a site that can tell us the history of some Jewish beliefs.

 

[Dkh587]

If that's the case, I will concede and thank you for enlightenment. Hopefully you will post the verse without smoke screen.

Why would I post a verse that you already posted when you can go back and read the verse for yourself? It’s in post #29

 

[Cribstyl]

Why would I post a verse that you already posted when you can go back and read the verse for yourself? It’s in post #29

Why? To make your point undeniably clear.
The only verse posted here #29 is
Exo 31:17 - It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
The text plainly says; The reason why Sabbath: (a) is a sign (b) between me and the Children of Israel. (c) is because in 6 days God made Heaven and earth and rested on the seventh day.

(a) Sabbath is a sign. God's rest is the real thing but the Sabbath is a sign of the real thing. TRUE OR FALSE?
(b) Why would God make Sabbath a sign between himself and the Children of Israel if He already gave it at creation? Does God make mistakes?
(c) God rested on the seventh day is what the scripture say. It does not say that God rested on the Sabbath.
Explain what the scripture is saying. What I'm I missing????

 

[Pyong Ping]

There have been some confusing responses also so far, maybe there can be some clarifying posts to help

The next sabbath text

Exodus 16:25

The next first day of the week text, is the day that takes place at the beginning of the 7 days, or weeks, and is the first day that takes place after the seventh day of every week in these texts

Exodus 31:12-18

Personal update

As I am searching these things, I have come across not a single text so far, that says that sabbath is a person. I see where God rested in Genesis 2:1-3. I see where humans have rested on the seventh day like God. I will keep looking, as it is still early yet.

I see no texts yet which say that sabbath is any one day of the week. I will keep looking.

There are texts which do state that sabbath is the seventh day of the week so far. I will keep looking.

I see no texts yet which say that sabbath is lunar based. I will keep looking.

The next sabbath text

Exodus 16:26

The next first day of the week text, is the day that takes place at the beginning of the 7 days, or weeks, and is the first day that takes place after the seventh day of every week in this text

Exodus 34:21

 

[Cribstyl]

There have been some confusing responses also so far, maybe there can be some clarifying posts to help

I get it. The responses that don't agree with you are confusing. Are you still claiming Ex 5:5 is about the Sabbath? You should clarify or correct your post.

The next sabbath text

Exodus 16:25

The next first day of the week text, is the day that takes place at the beginning of the 7 days, or weeks, and is the first day that takes place after the seventh day of every week in these texts

Exodus 31:12-18

Personal update

As I am searching these things, I have come across not a single text so far, that says that sabbath is a person. I see where God rested in Genesis 2:1-3. I see where humans have rested on the seventh day like God. I will keep looking, as it is still early yet.

I see no texts yet which say that sabbath is any one day of the week. I will keep looking.

There are texts which do state that sabbath is the seventh day of the week so far. I will keep looking.

I see no texts yet which say that sabbath is lunar based. I will keep looking. Try opening your eyes to see that Moses is telling us who God gives the Sabbath too.

You want us to ignore the fact that Ex 16:25 is the first mention of Sabbath in the bible. You claimed that Ex 5:5 is the second Sabbath text. (NOT)

Exo 16:25 - And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
Exo 16:29 - See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

Exo 16:30 - So the people rested on the seventh day.

If the scripture above say that God have given the Children of Israel the Sabbath, you have some explaining to do.

 

[Cribstyl]

Dhk587: You quoted a verse showing that God rested on the Sabbath earlier in the same post. You nullified your own argument.

I am really beginning to wonder about some of y’all on this board...

I posted a text and said that God rested on the seventh day. It's your burden to prove what is not written anywhere in the bible. (That God rested on the Sabbath). Even if 99% believes what you're saying, it still does not change the word of God. False doctrine causes people to say what scriptures does not. Shameful

 

[Pyong Ping]

I get it. The responses that don't agree with you are confusing.

This is confusing -

You want us to ignore the fact that Ex 16:25 is the first mention of Sabbath in the bible.

Exodus 16:23 comes before Exodus 16:25, yes?

sabbath in the bible ~ which day? ~ relevant?

You agree about this fact, yes?

Deception is a often as slight twist of the truth.

Agree. Is your statment deception or mistaken?

I think mistaken. Yet brings confusion.

TRUE OR FALSE?
Based on Genesis Chapter1 to Gen 2:1-3, God rested on the seventh day. 100% should know that Sabbath is the seventh day, but not the seventh day of creation.

Genesis 2:1-3

God rested.

Exodus 20:8-11

The seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD, yes?

God blessed and made holy the seventh day in Genesis 2:1-3, yes?

God in Exodus 20:10-11, God says that His rest on the seventh day in Genesis 2:1-3 is the sabbath, yes?

Are you still claiming Ex 5:5 is about the Sabbath?

Who sent Moses with the message to rest?

You should clarify or correct your post.

When shown to be in error, yes.

Now Exodus 16:23 before Exodus 16:25 in the word sabbath, yes?

Will you publically correct this as you ask me to, though I have no reason yet to?

You want us to ignore the fact that Ex 16:25 is the first mention of Sabbath in the bible. You claimed that Ex 5:5 is the second Sabbath text. (NOT)

I give evidence for you. Will you do the same for me?

Exo 16:25 - And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
Exo 16:29 - See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

Exo 16:30 - So the people rested on the seventh day.

If the scripture above say that God have given the Children of Israel the Sabbath, you have some explaining to do.

Are there more than children of Israel there in Exodus 16:25-30?

Exodus 12:38

There are more people included than children of Israel in Exodus 16:25-30, yes?

You will correct your statement, yes?

 

[Cribstyl]

Hi to all.

A thread to post the texts of scripture that relate to the sabbath in the bible.

A poll to see what people believe about which day the sabbath is. Please vote before posting.

Is the sabbath relevant?

If so, who is it relevant for?

If not, what was the purpose of it and for whom?

I will post first text on the sabbath.

Genesis 2:1-3

Continue to post the next text on the sabbath, and see if any help comes from doing this.

I will post first text on first day of the week also.

Genesis 1:5

Continue to post the next text on the first day of the week, and see if any help comes from doing this.

REWIND Your opening statement in this thread was an invitation to post text about the Sabbath. (TRUE or FALSE?)
You claimed that the first texts about Sabbath is Gen 2:1-3. Your claim does not say Sabbath anywhere, it says that God rested on the seventh day.
This created an argument because we disagree. By ignoring my post you also failed to explain what Gen 2:1-3 actually says. Those who agree with Gen 2:1, 2:3 and 2:3 cannot claim that God had more work to finish. So saying He rested for 24hrs weekly with Adam, would contradict that God: 'ended all His work', finished all His work and rested from all His work.