The ruler of this world coming, judged, cast out

[LittleLambofJesus]

These verses intrigue me and would like to bring them up to discuss.

John 12:31
Now judging is of this world, now this the ruler/chief of the world, shall be being cast out outside
John 14:30
Not much longer I shall be speaking to ye, for is coming the ruler/chief of the world and in Me not he having nothing
John 16:11
about yet judging, because the ruler/chief of this world has been judged.

758. archon ar'-khone present participle of 757; a first (in rank or power):--chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.
Strong's Number G758 matches the Greek ἄρχων (archōn), which occurs 37 times in 36 verses

Using an interlinear, the exact form of the word G#758 that is used in the above verses is used in only 8 verses, the last one being:

Reve 1:5
and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the first-born from *out of* the dead, and the Ruler of the kings of the land.
To Him who is loving us, and *washing/loosing us from *out of* our sins in the blood of Him


will continue on next post........

 

[drjean]

Are we going into The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven with this ?

 

[Southernscotty]

The ruler of this world has already been defeated, he is a roaring lion that has been defanged at the cross. he only has the power that is given to him by people willing to give in to it.
A child of God has authority over him through Jesus Christ and the shed blood that was shed for our sin atonement.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Are we going into The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven with this ?

I can probably guarantee that.
Stay tuned ehehe.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The ruler of this world has already been defeated, he is a roaring lion that has been defanged at the cross. he only has the power that is given to him by people willing to give in to it.
A child of God has authority over him through Jesus Christ and the shed blood that was shed for our sin atonement.

Defanged...... nice ehehe

 

[drjean]

Yea but he's resorted to sucking the energy out of us

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Each verse shows a different stage of events for this ruler.
John 12:31 has "cast out".

There are many different forms of G1544 and I would like to distinguish between them.

Unfortunately, the form of G1544 that John uses in this verse is used only 1 time.
Gotta go deeper I guess........

John 12:31
Now judging is of this world, now this the ruler/chief of the world, shall be being cast out/ekblhqhsetai<1544> outside

1544. ekballo ek-bal'-lo from 1537 and 906; to eject (literally or figuratively):--bring forth, cast (forth, out), drive (out), expel, leave, pluck (pull, take, thrust) out, put forth (out), send away (forth, out).
Strong's Number G1544 matches the Greek ἐκβάλλω (ekballō),which occurs 96 times in 76 verses

I am trying to find similar greek words that John uses.
So I will put up the 1st one I found.

This form of G1544 is also used in just 1 verse:

Matthew 8:12 The yet sons of the kingdom shall be being cast out/ekblhqhsontai<1544> into the darkness, the outer.
There will be the lamentation and the gnashing of the teeth

Who are the sons of the kingdom?

Now this is very interesting. G1544 is used only 1 time in all of Revelation!
I have never noticed that:

Reve 11:2
and the court, outside of the Sanctuary, be casting-out/ekbale <1544> (5628)! out-side, and thou mayest not be measuring it,
that it was given to the nations, and the holy City they shall be trampling forty and two months

And except for 3 times used in the Gospels [concerning casting out the beam from eye], that form of the word in Revelation 11:2 is in Galatians 4:30

Galatian 4:30
But what/any is saying the Scripture: 'be casting-out/ekbale <1544> (5628) the maid-servant and the son of her,
for not no shall be tenanting/inheriting the son of the maid-servant with the son of the freeone.

Any comments on this? Thank you.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

John 12:31 Now judging is of this world, now this the ruler/chief of the world, shall be being cast out outside
John 14:30 Not much longer I shall be speaking to ye, for is coming the ruler/chief of the world and in Me not he having nothing
John 16:11 about yet judging, because the ruler/chief of the world has been judged.

All 3 verses mention "of the world".

It appears the the equivalent Hebrew word of #G2889 is #H8398

8398 tebel tay-bale' from 2986; the earth (as moist and therefore inhabited); by extension, the globe; by implication, its inhabitants; specifically, a partic. land, as Babylonia, Palestine:--habitable part, world.
Strong's Number H8398 matches the Hebrew תֵּבֵל (tebel),
which occurs 36 times in 36 verses

1st time used in OT:

1Sa 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world/H8398 upon them.

Last time used:

Nah 1:5
The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world/H8398 and all that dwell therein.

Now let's look at the NT:

2889. kosmos kos'-mos probably from the base of 2865;
orderly arrangement, i.e. decoration; by implication, the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively (morally)):--adorning, world.
Strong's Number G2889 matches the Greek κόσμος (kosmos),which occurs 186 times in 151 verses

Of the 151 verses the word#2889 occurs in the NT, it is used in only 3 verses in the book of Revelation!!!! To me, that is astounding.
Here they are:

Rev 11:15
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of the world/G2889 are become the kingdom of our Lord,and of his Christ;
And He shall reign into the ages of the ages.

2 of those verses occurs with the "THE BOOK OF THE LIFE" and the "Beast"

Rev 13:8
and all who dwell on earth will worship it,
everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world/κόσμος (kosmos)<2889> in the Book of the life of the Lamb Who was slain/slaughtered.

Rev 17:8
The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the abyss[fn] and go to destruction.
And the dwellers on the land whose names have not been written in the Book of the life from the foundation of the world/κόσμος (kosmos)<2889> will marvel to see the beast,
because it was and is not and is to come.

Using a concordance, one can find where it occurs in the rest of the verses:

Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

Of the 151 times #G2889 is used, John uses that word an astounding 75 times in the Gospels and Epistles.
2nd place goes to 1 Corinthians, 17 times

9 times in Matthew

Mat 4:8
Again, the devil taketh Him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth Him all the kingdoms of the world/G2889 and the glory of them;

3 times in Mark:

Mar 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world/G2889 and preach the gospel to every creature.

3 times in Luke:

Luk 11:50
That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world/G2889 may be required of this generation;

58 times in John:

Jhn 1:9
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world/G2889

Jhn 21:25
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world/G2889 itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

1 time in Acts:

Act 17:24
God that made the world/G2889 and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

9 times in Romans:

Rom 1:20
For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world/G2889 are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

17 times in 1 Corin

1Co 6:2
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?/G2889 and if the world/G2889 shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

17 times 1John

1Jo 3:1
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world G2889 knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

John 14:30
Not much longer I shall be speaking to ye, for is coming the ruler/chief of the world
and in Me not he having nothing

It appears that the ruler is coming to Him in person. It doesn't say when or how.

2064. erchomai er'-khom-ahee middle voice of a primary verb (used only in the present and imperfect tenses, the others being supplied by a kindred (middle voice) eleuthomai el-yoo'-thom-ahee, or (active) eltho el'-tho, which do not otherwise occur) to come or go (in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively):--accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow, X light, X next, pass, resort, be set.
Strong's Number G2064 matches the Greek ἔρχομαι (erchomai),
which occurs 665 times in 604 verses

1st time used in NT.
[Ironic that it is used at the BIRTH of Jesus then concerning His 2ND COMING. Interesting]
KJV)

Mat 2:2
Saying, Where is He that is born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the east, and are come G2064 to worship Him.

Last time:

Rev 22:20
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come G2064 quickly. Amen.
Even so, come G2064 Lord Jesus.

#2064 is used in 32 verses in Revelation, out of 604 verses.

1st time used Revelation:
KJV)

Rev 1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; G2064 and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne

Last time

Rev 22:20

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come G2064 quickly. Amen. Even so, come, G2064 Lord Jesus.

...................for is coming/ercetai ἔρχεται<2064> the ruler/chief of the world

The exact form of #G2064 as used in John 14:30 is used in only 2 verses in Revelation

Revelation 1:
7 Behold! He is coming/ercetai ἔρχεται<2064>with the clouds, and every eye will see Him—even those who pierced Him.
And all the tribes of the land shall be wailing because of Him. Yea! Amen.

Now this is interesting. It shows it with the 3rd "woe"

Revelation 11:
14 The second woe has passed.
Behold! the third woe is coming/ercetai ἔρχεται<2064> swiftly

The next post, I will quote some verses outside of Revelation with that exact word form, the LORD willing.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I found some verses that may tie into John 14:30:

The Betrayal of Jesus
(Matthew 26:47-56; Mark 14:43; Luke 22:47-53; John 18:1-14)

Only John and Luke mention the Devil, Satan at the last supper event

John 13:2
The evening meal was underway, and the Devil had already put into the heart of Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, to betray Jesus.

Luke 22:
3 Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve.

John 14:30
Not much longer I shall be speaking to ye, for is coming/ercetai ἔρχεται<2064> the ruler/chief of the world
and in Me not he having nothing

Then comes His great discourse in John chapters 14,15,16, and 17.............After that:

John 18:
3 Judas, therefore, having taken the band and officers out of the Chief priests and Pharisees,
doth come/ercetai ἔρχεται<2064> thither with torches and lamps, and weapons;

Will continue with this on the next post.........