Supreme court decides that faith is now banned from Canadas public spaces

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Title is a bit off according to the article:

Trinity Western University suffered a stinging loss in the Supreme Court of Canada on Friday, which found that law societies in B.C. and Ontario were justified in not accrediting the university’s prospective law school because of its policy on premarital sex. But no one should harbour any illusions that the pain will be limited to the small Christian school in B.C.’s Fraser Valley.

The impact of the court’s decision against TWU will seriously afflict the engagement of religious communities with public life across this country, regardless of whether it’s the Catholic Church, the Salvation Army or Muslim and Jewish charitable organizations.


Now I can see how one could take this decision and apply it to public places.

Interesting that Trinity Western University, which I assume is a private university, needs government approval or accreditation to run their law program. Accreditation is usually based on whether the program meets basic educational competitive standards and placement criteria.

Then again I live in the US where the free exercise of religion is a right endowed by our Creator and not the government.
 
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I guess this is a logical next step after what they did last December......

"Trudeau Bans Christian Students From Canada Summer Jobs

In a recent town hall meeting, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced his reasoning for not permitting Christians to apply for Canada Summer Jobs. Trudeau said that those who seek to restrict abortion are "not in line with society".

The Canada Summer Jobs program provides over $200 million per year to fund some 70,000 students with seasonal employment. Just before Christmas, Trudeau changed the requirements for funding which now demands that applicants and employers sign a document to attest that they support women’s reproductive rights, and the rights of gender-diverse and transgender Canadians." No bible believing Christian can sign such a document therefore the result is clear, Christians need not apply.

It appears that our Prime Minister does not recognize that each and every Canadian must be treated equally before the law and receive equal benefit including opportunity for students to be employed under the CSJ program. Section 15 of Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedom, says "1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law". Some may argue that his discrimination is not overt in that he does not explicitly name Christians; however, his descriptions are crystal clear. Christian individuals and organizations are at the forefront of fighting for person status of unborn children and protection of Children from radical sex education teaching.

One would hope that Trudeau's discrimination is temporary; however, back when Justin Trudeau was first elected as Prime Minister, over two years ago, he told local Toronto pastors that "Evangelical Christians are the worst part of Canadian society."

Hundreds of Christian organizations and thousands of Christian students have now lost funding for this year's summer jobs. Church leaders have begun to push back. If the government is allowed to blatantly deny Christian students employment, it won't be long until other Christians feel the threat of losing their jobs simply for practicing what the Bible teaches. In fact, it has been reported that this prohibition has already expanded to other programs such as the Canada Service Corps including the YMCA.

We must not allow Trudeau to deny students jobs for not swearing to support abortion and multiple genders. We can stop this if we petition God, take action by contacting our Members of Parliament, call the Prime Minister at 613-941-6900 and sign the petition at

 
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In Canada it is simple --- the government will not legitimize much less fund discrimination, hate or the removal of rights. I am very comfortable with that.
Yet they (the government) can do all of the above?
 
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I'm not sure just how wanting employer participants in a jobs program to indicating that they don't discriminate has any connection to the OP
Why is ones view on abortion even a matter of summer jobs programs?

In a recent town hall meeting, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced his reasoning for not permitting Christians to apply for Canada Summer Jobs. Trudeau said that those who seek to restrict abortion are "not in line with society".

Truly what does seeking to restrict abortion have to do with summer jobs? How would these students restrict abortion? Voting?
 
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Why is ones view on abortion even a matter of summer jobs programs?
it doesn't but the 2018 CANADA SUMMER JOBS APPLICATION / AGREEMENT doesn't say anything about ones view of abortion it says:

"These include reproductive rights and the right to be free from discrimination on the basis of sex, religion, race, national or ethnic origin, colour, mental or physical disability or sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression."

Truly what does seeking to restrict abortion have to do with summer jobs? How would these students restrict abortion? Voting?
a couple minutes of research found that this section was included when it was discovered that one recipient of funding put kids to work distributing anti-abortion pamphlets which included fake pictures of aborted fetuses. There was another company,i think it was the Center for bio-ethic reform, insisted that any female summer job employee not take prescribed birth control medication.
 
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a couple minutes of research found that this section was included when it was discovered that one recipient of funding put kids to work distributing anti-abortion pamphlets which included fake pictures of aborted fetuses. There was another company,i think it was the Center for bio-ethic reform, insisted that any female summer job employee not take prescribed birth control medication.
Thanks for the research!

This still does not answer the question why Chistians are banned from summer jobs. Doesn't Canada apply due process for those who violate the law without punishing an entire religious group?

Not even Saudi Arabia rounds up every Christian when a few violate their anti proselytizing laws.
 
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Its one steep closer to America.
Well in Canada they don't have a Bill of Rights like we do. In the US, Congress can make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion or abridging the freedom of speech.

For the federal government to come out and ban a religious group from what is available to all is still foreign here. Not to mention punishing an entire group of any kind based on the actions of some or a few.

Which is why sometimes fighting for your independence instead of negotiating for it matters. ;)
 
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Why is ones view on abortion even a matter of summer jobs programs?



Truly what does seeking to restrict abortion have to do with summer jobs? How would these students restrict abortion? Voting?

Exactly!

It is also relevant that Canada has zero legal protection for the unborn right up until the moment of birth.........
partial birth abortions..... although they are relatively few each year.... are especially odious to anybody with a conscience.

And as for my opinion on how the LGBT community should be treated......

God's many plans for the Gay community???????

.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11

What about sexually diverse people?

If this world was to ever find out just a small amount of what sexually diverse (gay) people are here to do on this planet, there would never be one single wisecrack or hurtful remark made ever again. Instead there would be great respect! People who speak disrespectful things about people of this orientation ... enact judgment, and do so from a place of unenlightenment, insecurity, ego and socially induced prejudice. Some may use mistranslated scriptures taught to them, not by the Holy Spirit ... but by fear-filled human beings. Many will choose to sustain a Divinely unsupported satanic hate-based rage against these children of God, rather than using Love to bring understanding and healing between both peoples. Christ said, THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT IS THAT WE ARE TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! When people sling condemnation, judgment and bitterness at others, they are not practicing the great commandment. They are allowing their Souls to fall into darkness.

But even though I am not on the same page as some Christians on these topics..... if P. M. Trudeau's legislation was relevant to me.... I would not sign it..... due to the danger that it would begin economic marginalization of so many of my friends.
 
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Why is ones view on abortion even a matter of summer jobs programs?

Trudeau and the Liberal Government of Canada like to pride themselves that they're the light and are building a just and fair society. Their feeling is government needs to set an example and only going to reward those who share what they call Canadian values. Abortion rights he has deemed such a one. The summer jobs program is government money thus you demonstrate you're a reasonable, civilized individual and you'll get the job. I found it rather precious to hear him defend that this policy isn't against Christians who have Charter of Rights protections of equality under the law by his saying there's a lot of Christians that believe in abortion rights so it's not religious discrimination.

Truly what does seeking to restrict abortion have to do with summer jobs? How would these students restrict abortion? Voting?
It's NOTHING to do with summer jobs and these students aren't restricting anything. It's about not wanting to financially benefit anyone who doesn't share their world views.
 
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it doesn't but the 2018 CANADA SUMMER JOBS APPLICATION / AGREEMENT doesn't say anything about ones view of abortion it says:

"These include reproductive rights and the right to be free from discrimination on the basis of sex, religion, race, national or ethnic origin, colour, mental or physical disability or sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression."
Reproductive rights are code words for abortion. The media KNOW this. The Government knows this and have done nothing whatsoever to clarify the issue if it meant something different.
 
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Thanks for the research!

This still does not answer the question why Chistians are banned from summer jobs. Doesn't Canada apply due process for those who violate the law without punishing an entire religious group?

Not even Saudi Arabia rounds up every Christian when a few violate their anti proselytizing laws.
Christians are not banned. Not as a group or otherwise.
One must acknowledge the rights of others under the law in order to receive funding from the government.

I don't see how that is any different than our government telling the Catholic adoption agency that if they want funding from the US government that they must agree to allow same sex couples to adopt children from their agency. If they don't agree to do that they can't be a part of the government program and will loose funding.
 
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