The antichrist translated into hell alive.

[Sammy-San]

Yes it can be called that

Isnt the intermediate hell the outer darkness?

 

[Sammy-San]

Most people tend to mis-identify the Antichrist in that passage. "translate" also seems a bit awkward. "cast" is the better word choice especially in relation to the metaphor of a lake of fire.

Do you think the antichrist is a hybrid or a normal person?

 

[seventysevens]

Which makes it a very strong metaphor especially located in the most metaphorical book of the entire bible.

metaphorically as in satan being cast into the abyss for 1000 years or metaphorically as in Great white throne judgement
metaphorically as in Jesus returning to earth ,metaphorically as in saints raising again to life after death

reference to same place is found in other bible writings

 

[Sammy-San]

metaphorically as in satan being cast into the abyss for 1000 years or metaphorically as in Great white throne judgement
metaphorically as in Jesus returning to earth ,metaphorically as in saints raising again to life after death

reference to same place is found in other bible writings

Why is it called outer darkness?

 

[seventysevens]

Why is it called outer darkness?

why not present the scripture you refer to

the bible itself will tell you ,

 

[Sammy-San]

why not present the scripture you refer to

the bible itself will tell you ,

They don't see each other there? Some Revelation videos I've seen shows the souls in hell being in each others physical presence.

 

[dreadnought]

People are given until their last breath to repent.

And a lot can go on in those last moments of life.

 

[Revealing Times]

People are given until their last breath to repent.

He is really killed, our souls never die, thus what Rev. 19:20 means is he is cast into HELL without ever being allowed to Sleep in the grave like everyone else, save those of us who were Raptured while alive at Jesus' calling us home at the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

The proof of what I say is found in Daniel chapter 7. Two verses are in conflict, and God can't lie, so we have to figure out the discrepancy.

Dan. 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Thus we know he is KILLED and then cast into hell, God can not lie. So what does "Cast alive into hell mean" ? It means he is NEVER ALLOWED TO SLEEP after hes killed, hes cast straight into hell via HIS SPIRIT.

All the rest of the Wicked are judged 1000 years later at the Second Resurrection.

 

[Sammy-San]

He is really killed, our souls never die, thus what Rev. 19:20 means is he is cast into HELL without ever being allowed to Sleep in the grave like everyone else, save those of us who were Raptured while alive at Jesus' calling us home at the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

The proof of what I say is found in Daniel chapter 7. Two verses are in conflict, and God can't lie, so we have to figure out the discrepancy.

Dan. 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Thus we know he is KILLED and then cast into hell, God can not lie. So what does "Cast alive into hell mean" ? It means he is NEVER ALLOWED TO SLEEP after hes killed, hes cast straight into hell via HIS SPIRIT.

All the rest of the Wicked are judged 1000 years later at the Second Resurrection.

He is killed and then resurrected instantly.

 

[Anguspure]

They don't see each other there? Some Revelation videos I've seen shows the souls in hell being in each others physical presence.

That is what happens when we make "Death" that is promised because of Sin = "Eternal Life in the Naughty Place".

 

[Sammy-San]

That is what happens when we make "Death" that is promised because of Sin = "Eternal Life in the Naughty Place".

Buried Alive: The Horrifying Reality Of Hell

Literal fire and brimstone can be in a black place.

 

[ewq1938]

metaphorically as in satan being cast into the abyss for 1000 years/QUOTE]

No metaphorically as far as the "chains" he is bound with.

or metaphorically as in Great white throne judgement

You can't just add the word metaphor and match it with anything...one must be able to identify metaphors like a 7 headed beast being a metaphor for something else.

metaphorically as in Jesus returning to earth

You don't know how to recognize metaphors. The metaphor isn't the second coming but heavenly being riding on "white horses". The horses are metaphors. The sword Christ has in his mouth is a metaphor. Returning from heaven isn't a metaphor.

,metaphorically as in saints raising again to life after death

reference to same place is found in other bible writings[

There won't be a literal lake of fire...it's a metaphor for something.

 

[Anguspure]

Buried Alive: The Horrifying Reality Of Hell

Literal fire and brimstone can be in a black place.

Could be, and perhaps as for Jesus' story about the Rich man and Lazarus there is reason to consider that there will be concsious torment before destruction. But the Bible does promise that the penalty for sin is death forever. Not eternal life as unnatractive as that might be.

 

[seventysevens]

There won't be a literal lake of fire...it's a metaphor for something.

Which makes it a very strong metaphor especially located in the most metaphorical book of the entire bible.

You failed to understand what I said , as well as what Jesus says
, You fail to provide scripture to what that metaphor something is

I was simply showing you that in Revelation which you call a metaphorical book , has many many many many literal interpretations IF a person is willing to learn what it means
The manner in which you choose to interpret is incorrect , just as saying---
satan being cast into the abyss for 1000 years or metaphorically as in Great white throne judgement .metaphorically as in Jesus returning to earth ,metaphorically as in saints raising again to life after death--- is incorrect, as those are not metaphors

Matt25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels

Rev20
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.


Real people that are to suffer eternal damnation will go to a real place , not some metaphorical symbolized allegory
They suffer weeping and gnashing of teeth for their regret is intense that they chose to ignore Gods people and scriptures , thinking it was all fables and metaphors , and now that it is too late for them they must face the fact that it was their owning doing that got them where they are

• It is ONLY mens false interpretation that it would not be a real place ,
  
• ALL people have a soul that will never cease to exist , it will either be in the presence of Jesus the God they served -or
  
• in the presence of satan the god they served

 

[seventysevens]

how do you reconcile the two concepts (the unpardonable sin is not accepting Christ when alive, and he is cast into hell alive)?

What ? the unpardonable sin is rejecting Jesus or blasphemy pf God /Holy Spirit/Jesus , Christ is the one who casts the beast/false prophet alive into the lake of fire , then afterward 1000 years later satan is cast into the lake of fire along with all those whose name was not found in the book of life at the great white throne judgment

 

[Revealing Times]

He is killed and then resurrected instantly.

Something like that. Instead of waiting until the 2nd Resurrection of Death he and the False Prophet are cast straight into hell.

 

[Ronald]

Outer darkness is the opposite of being in the presence of the LIGHT. Darkness usually refers to evil, not a physical place, its spiritual darkness.
Hades (Sheol) is not Hell. It is the underworld, which also includes the Abyss/Bottomless Pit. This Abyss is part of the physical earth, where demons are locked up, where Satan will be chained/ imprisoned for 1000 years, then released for awhile, then destroyed in the Lake of Fire, which is Hell.
Hades and death at that time are also thrown into the Lake of Fire and destroyed.
The first heaven and earth will burn in a fervent heat and be destroyed.
So Hades, is where the lost souls go when they die. Its dark, like pitch black caverns deep within the earth. They are held there until the final judgment when they will be resurrected and thrown into a literal burning fire and will be destroyed.
Destroyed means to put an end to. As paper is burned, so will everything else be except those who are saved and given eternal bodies at both the 1st and 2nd resurrection. The Millennial Kingdom will be a time of peace, a Christian world without sin or Satan to tempt us.
At the end of time ( a physical dimension), the end of the first earth and heavens, there will be no more need for a sun or stars, no more night. There will be no more pain and suffering for All former things will have passed away. All former things includes Hades, death and the Lake of Fire, otherwise pain, suffering and torment would still exist.

 

[seventysevens]

There will be no more pain and suffering for All former things will have passed away. All former things includes Hades, death and the Lake of Fire, otherwise pain, suffering and torment would still exist.

For those who have accepted Christ as savoir , there will be no more pain, no more sorrow - for them the former things have passed away as life will be a blissful paradise forever and ever -
However

Rev 20
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

Those who have rejected Christ will suffer torment forever and ever - pain and sorrow will be their eternity as they are continually reminded that they could have been with Christ forever , but they made the choice to reject Christ and are tormented forever knowing it was their own choice that put them where they are

 

[Sammy-San]

For those who have accepted Christ as savoir , there will be no more pain, no more sorrow - for them the former things have passed away as life will be a blissful paradise forever and ever -
However

Rev 20
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

Those who have rejected Christ will suffer torment forever and ever - pain and sorrow will be their eternity as they are continually reminded that they could have been with Christ forever , but they made the choice to reject Christ and are tormented forever knowing it was their own choice that put them where they are

Do you think all false religions have red flags? Like Judaism, Buddhism?

 

[Douggg]

Something like that. Instead of waiting until the 2nd Resurrection of Death he and the False Prophet are cast straight into hell.

RT, where is the person's soul between when he is killed and when he comes back to life?