God does not love everyone and the Bible says so (Change My Mind)

[HypnoToad]

The phrase makes no mention of motive only that the work is being done..

Nonsense. You can't just translate the single word and act like that is the translation of the entire phrase.

All you translated was "for the sake of". You left off a portion of the phrase - "my name". You can't drop half the phrase and act like you're giving an accurate translation of the entire phrase.

Like the context shows, He benefits from it just like a parent benefits from correcting his child...but why is the child corrected? Because the parent is glorified in correcting the child? How is the parent glorified in correcting a wayward child's behavior?

You need to explain how something benefiting God does NOT glorify God.

 

[W2L]

He isn’t the Father as in Heavenly Father.

Who is this scripture referring to?

Isaiah 9:6 (NASB)
6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;
And the government will [a]rest on His shoulders;
And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

 

[razzelflabben]

Nonsense. You can't just translate the single word and act like that is the translation of the entire phrase.

huh? I didn't translate a single word, I showed that the phrase in question did not answer the question but context does...you do realize that context is an important tool to reading comprehension don't you? IT's even taught in elementary school when reading comprehension is taught.

All you translated was "for the sake of". You left off a portion of the phrase - "my name". You can't drop half the phrase and act like you're giving an accurate translation of the entire phrase.

no, according to the strong's Lexicon (Thayers') it's all one phrase...I was disappointed that it was, but it was.

You need to explain how something benefiting God does NOT glorify God.

Huh....I told you that the goal, purpose, motive of God was the good of Israel which is what you brought up...

 

[Grip Docility]

He isn’t the Father as in Heavenly Father.

Correction. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are our Heavenly Father. I believe you meant to say, “He isn’t God the Father”.

Trinitarian precision is required at this level of scrutiny.

Do you deny Deuteronomy 6:4?

 

[W2L]

Correction. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are our Heavenly Father. I believe you meant to say, “He isn’t God the Father”.

Trinitarian precision is required at this level of scrutiny.

Do you deny Deuteronomy 6:4?

We also have 2 Corinthians 3:17 saying the Lord is the Spirit.

 

[Hammster]

No!!! To see the Son is to have seen the Father. No one has seen the Father but the ONE He Sent through Divine Union of humanity, through Mary of Israel and God the Holy Spirit.

Nice Trinitarian knowledge Ollie.

Do you deny Deuteronomy 6:4?

Let’s post Isaiah 9:6 for the score board.

You tell me what it says. Ps, Arians Hate this one.

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Father does not exclusively mean male parental unit. For example, see Genesis 4:20.

 

[Hammster]

Who is this scripture referring to?

Isaiah 9:6 (NASB)
6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;
And the government will [a]rest on His shoulders;
And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

The Son.

 

[W2L]

[Staff edit].

I havent thought much about trinity. However that scripture you posted has me thinking.

 

[Grip Docility]

Father does not exclusively mean male parental unit. For example, see Genesis 4:20.

Leave it to a reformer to attempt to redefine a word that is refuting them, FROM Scripture.

 

[W2L]

The Son.

Why will the Son be called "eternal Father" and "Mighty God"? Aren't those titles for God the Father?

 

[Grip Docility]

Leave it to a reformer to attempt to redefine a word that is refuting them, FROM Scripture.

The Son.

WHO am I quoting?

“Haven’t I been with you all this time?”

“To have seen Me is to have seen the Father”

Who passed before Moses and Who was Talking to Moses, On Mount Sin?

Obviously He’s TRI-UNE! To deny Tri is to deny scripture. To deny UNE, is to deny scripture.

He’s not either or. He’s Both!

Distinction is good, but don’t forget how to trace back to Deuteronomy 6:4.

Are you going to “add” to the “WORD’s” words? Are you going to accuse Him of Modalism?!?

Ps,

Now we really are off topic.

 

[Hammster]

Leave it to a reformer to attempt to redefine a word that is refuting them, FROM Scripture.

I didn’t redefine it.

 

[Grip Docility]

Why will the Son be called "eternal Father" and "Mighty God"? Aren't those titles for God the Father?

Say! Why is only ONE “Seen” Here?



Revelation 4:2

And yet, Revelation 21:23

 

[Grip Docility]

I didn’t redefine it.

Did too! You are attempting to redefine a word on the fly to cover your backside.

Thread History can be a pain!

 

[Strong in Him]

He most certainly does.

No; as I said, I believe he respects the choices that people made while they were alive.
If their constant stance was "I don't need God, I'll do it my way/I don't need God to forgive me, I'm a good person and haven't really sinned", when they die, they will continue to exist without God - according to the decision and choices they previously made.

God has revealed himself and gives many opportunities for people to know him - as Paul says in Romans, they are without excuse, Romans 1:20-21.

Otherwise, you're left with a God who says, "I created you and made you in my image, (Genesis 1:26-27), I knew you before you were born and know all about you, (Psalm 139), but I don't love you. I'm also going to throw you into hell for not believing in me - even though I decided I wasn't going to love you."
That is doing what Jesus told us NOT to do; only loving those who will love you back, Matthew 5:46-48. Not that that's possible anyway, because John says that whoever doesn't love is not from God, because God is love, 1 John 4:8.

If God doesn't love, he is not from himself! ??

 

[Hammster]

Did too! You are attempting to redefine a word on the fly to cover your backside.

Thread History can be a pain!

I just pointed out that there is more than one definition for the word. Most words have multiple definitions.

 

[Grip Docility]

I just pointed out that there is more than one definition for the word. Most words have multiple definitions.

Like this?

Genesis 3

Now uthe serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.

He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You1shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” v‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ” wBut the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

I bet they do.

WhoSoEver reads this, take heed!

 

[Strong in Him]

And, by scripture it is clear that God fives chance after chance for a person to “change their mind”.

Before they're there, certainly; not afterwards.

 

[Hammster]

No; as I said, I believe he respects the choices that people made while they were alive.
If their constant stance was "I don't need God, I'll do it my way/I don't need God to forgive me, I'm a good person and haven't really sinned", when they die, they will continue to exist without God - according to the decision and choices they previously made.

God has revealed himself and gives many opportunities for people to know him - as Paul says in Romans, they are without excuse, Romans 1:20-21.

Otherwise, you're left with a God who says, "I created you and made you in my image, (Genesis :26-27), I knew you before you were born and know all about you, (Psalm 139), but I don't love you. I'm also going to throw you into hell for not believing in me - even though I decided I wasn't going to love you."
That is doing what Jesus told us NOT to do; only loving those who will love you back, Matthew 5:46-48. Not that that's possible anyway, because John says that whoever doesn't love is not from God, because God is love, 1 John 4:8.

If God doesn't love, he is not from himself! ??

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. - Matthew 25:41

That is not the language of love that is just respecting a decision. That’s judgment and punishment.

 

[Hammster]

Like this?

Genesis 3

Now uthe serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.

He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You1shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” v‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ” wBut the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

I bet they do.

WhoSoEver reads this, take heed!

I’m not sure what your point is, so I cannot accurately respond.