Is Yeshua second coming a secret?

[visionary]

What are the signs of His coming? Will we recognise them? Will it surprise us? Will we have warning?

 

[R. Hartono]

As in the days of Noah

 

[pat34lee]

At the end of the great tribulation as told in
Matthew 24 and Revelation. Those Christians
who aren't prepared won't live long enough
to see him. They will have to be resurrected,
and that may not be until after the millennial
reign and the final battle with Satan.

 

[Inkfingers]

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Did not notice this was MJ forum...

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Is Yeshua second coming a secret? Any minute now...

What are the signs of His coming? Like lightning from East to West.... quite visible and obvious.

Will we recognise them? Everyone will know around the world.

Will it surprise us? yes.

Will we have warning? no.

 

[Heber Book List]

Who says it will be his 2nd coming?

 

[Randy777]

What are the signs of His coming? Will we recognise them? Will it surprise us? Will we have warning?

I woud state REV 11 is a sign that can't be mistaken. 1260 days in Jerusalem and killed and raised to life in full view of the whole world. If anyone can believe in those days they will believe those that take joy in the deaths of God two witnesses will be deceived into following the beast. Rev 11 is Gods last warning for at the end of that testimony the beast is in the world making war even against the saints.

 

[Randy777]

What are the signs of His coming? Will we recognise them? Will it surprise us? Will we have warning?

The saints will understand what is taking place and know the season. The rest of the world is deceived into following the beast who is successful in invading many countries as in who can make war with the beast. The end will come suddenly in favor of the saints of the most high by Jesus and the armies of heaven that follow Him.

 

[visionary]

The saints will understand what is taking place and know the season. The rest of the world is deceived into following the beast who is successful in invading many countries as in who can make war with the beast. The end will come suddenly in favor of the saints of the most high by Jesus and the armies of heaven that follow Him.

These saints...??
Revelation 14:12
Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

 

[Randy777]

These saints...??
Revelation 14:12
Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

We are not free to sin. And Love another is the command Jesus gave. If you are loving one another that fulfills the commandments. Like Abraham Gods blessing is based of a promise.

Randy

 

[visionary]

We are not free to sin. And Love another is the command Jesus gave. If you are loving one another that fulfills the commandments. Like Abraham Gods blessing is based of a promise.

Randy

You do know that Yeshua was quoting scripture.. aka OT??
Leviticus 19:18
You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

 

[Randy777]

You do know that Yeshua was quoting scripture.. aka OT??
Leviticus 19:18
You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

Yes

But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35The next day he took out two denariie and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

36“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

 

[visionary]

Yes

But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35The next day he took out two denariie and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

36“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

amen...Lulav has a great pic that shows the order of loving God and your neighbor like a coat hanger for everything else.

 

[CherubRam]

Who says it will be his 2nd coming?

Although he has been here many times, it will be second from his last visit.

 

[Heber Book List]

Although he has been here many times, it will be second from his last visit.

Probably 3rd, actually.

In John's account, Jesus is recorded as telling Mary that she must not hold on to him as he has not yet ascended to his father.

However, on the same day, he enjoyed a meal with his disciples on the road to Emmaus, presumably without anyone touching him.

Then there is the account of Thomas who wanted confirmation that Jesus, who seems to have walked through a wall / door, ate food with them and invited Thomas to touch the wounds in his hands.

If Mary was not allowed to touch him because he had not ascended to his father, what happened to make it OK for, at least, Thomas, if not the two on the road to Emmaus to touch him. Ergo, in that time frame he must have returned to his father, and then to earth. Therefore, his next coming must be at least his 3rd.

Then we have his Ascension.

 

[Randy777]

Probably 3rd, actually.

In John's account, Jesus is recorded as telling Mary that she must not hold on to him as he has not yet ascended to his father.

However, on the same day, he enjoyed a meal with his disciples on the road to Emmaus, presumably without anyone touching him.

Then there is the account of Thomas who wanted confirmation that Jesus, who seems to have walked through a wall / door, ate food with them and invited Thomas to touch the wounds in his hands.

If Mary was not allowed to touch him because he had not ascended to his father, what happened to make it OK for, at least, Thomas, if not the two on the road to Emmaus to touch him. Ergo, in that time frame he must have returned to his father, and then to earth. Therefore, his next coming must be at least his 3rd.

Then we have his Ascension.

acts 1:11
"Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."
Mark 14:62
"I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

 

[visionary]

Probably 3rd, actually.

In John's account, Jesus is recorded as telling Mary that she must not hold on to him as he has not yet ascended to his father.

However, on the same day, he enjoyed a meal with his disciples on the road to Emmaus, presumably without anyone touching him.

Then there is the account of Thomas who wanted confirmation that Jesus, who seems to have walked through a wall / door, ate food with them and invited Thomas to touch the wounds in his hands.

If Mary was not allowed to touch him because he had not ascended to his father, what happened to make it OK for, at least, Thomas, if not the two on the road to Emmaus to touch him. Ergo, in that time frame he must have returned to his father, and then to earth. Therefore, his next coming must be at least his 3rd.

Then we have his Ascension.

I believe that between the time of "don't touch" and "touch" He had ascended to His Father.

 

[Heber Book List]

I believe that between the time of "don't touch" and "touch" He had ascended to His Father.

Which makes his next visit the 3rd one, not the 2nd

 

[AbbaLove]

Although he has been here many times, it will be second from his last visit.

The wise men from the east came to worship the King of the Jews. The Jewish scribes knew that the King of the Jews would be born in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:2-5). However, the Messiah will be cut-off (Daniel 9:26). So when He returns at His Second Coming it will be to reign and rule as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords from Jerusalem.

 

[AbbaLove]

Probably 3rd, actually.

In John's account, Jesus is recorded as telling Mary that she must not hold on to him as he has not yet ascended to his father.

However, on the same day, he enjoyed a meal with his disciples on the road to Emmaus, presumably without anyone touching him.

Then there is the account of Thomas who wanted confirmation that Jesus, who seems to have walked through a wall / door, ate food with them and invited Thomas to touch the wounds in his hands.

If Mary was not allowed to touch him because he had not ascended to his father, what happened to make it OK for, at least, Thomas, if not the two on the road to Emmaus to touch him. Ergo, in that time frame he must have returned to his father, and then to earth. Therefore, his next coming must be at least his 3rd.

Then we have his Ascension.

Yeshua told Mary not to hold on to Him. So Mary not only touched him, but apparently was so overjoyed that she grasped onto Him. When Yeshua says He must first ascend to His Father He is referring to His ascension as recorded in Acts 1:9-11.