7th Trumpet Rapture?

[jerry kelso]

Who is the true Israel of God?
Who are the legitimate heirs of God’s promises? It isn’t those who claim to be descendants of Jacob, such as the citizens of the modern State of Israel, or the many people groups who assert they are the ‘lost tribes’, etc.

The true Israelites of God are those individuals who meet the Covenant conditions, who by belief in God and in their moral and ethical behaviour, prove they belong to Him. 1 Peter 2:9-10
It was always possible for foreigners to join Israel, therefore parentage and actual descent is irrelevant:
Leviticus 19:33-34…foreigners are to be treated as native born among you…..
Isaiah 56:1-8….foreigners who give their allegiance to Me will be acceptable in My House of Prayer…..I shall add them to those who are already gathered.

Jesus said: Other sheep I must gather….John 19:16 and the Apostles made it clear that it is only by righteousness and faith that anyone is counted into the House of Israel. Romans 9:6-9, Galatians 3:26-29, Ephesians 2:11-18

So to determine who qualifies as an Israelite person of God, we know:

1/ They cannot be determined by natural descent from Abraham, or more specifically, from Jacob. There are no proofs of ancestry back to Abraham extant today.

2/ They cannot become an Israelite by conversion to Judaism.

3/ Any person can become an Israelite of God by faith in Him, obedience to His Laws and the acceptance of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus. John 3:16-17


Jesus is the ‘root and tree trunk’ of Israel. Paul said that the promises made to Abraham were to one Person and they are all ‘yes’ in Christ. Galatians 3:16, 2 Cor. 1:20
So now all we Christians, in Christ as His friends and working with Him, are now the branches of the ‘olive tree’ of the true Israel. Jews have been cut off, but can be grafted back, as individual Christian believers. Bible prophecy proves that only a remnant will do that. Ezekiel 6:1-14, Zechariah 13:7-9, Romans 9:27

WE Christians are all true born again people from every tribe, race, nation and language. Romans 2:28-29, Revelation 5:9-10, Isaiah 56:1-8

This truth that all righteous Christians are the Israel of God, Galatians 6:16, destroys the false ‘rapture to heaven’ theory. We will never go to live in heaven, but eventually heaven comes down to earth. Revelation 20:4

The prophesies about Judah, the Jewish people, are clear: only a remnant will survive. Isaiah 6:13, Luke 19:27 They have set up their own religion and refuse to acknowledge Jesus. Romans 10:1-4

It will be all the true, righteous Christian people that will inherit the holy Land and they are the people who will display God’s glory and be His witnesses to the nations, in the last few years before Jesus Returns. Ezekiel 39:21-29, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Isaiah 49:8-13, Ephesians 1:11, Romans 9:24-26

Keras,

1. Who determines who the Israel of God? The answer is God and his word.

2. 2 Samuel 7:13-16 plainly proves that mercy will never leave from David and his promise of the house and throne in his name forever.
Ezekiel backs up this in Ezekiel 37:20 where David is the King of Israel. Some say this a type of Christ fo in verse 24 it states David will be the Prince forever over Israel. And the promise to the children and their children children’s children is physical Israel.

3. Judah and Israel will be the two sticks to become one. This is why all true Israelites will saved in the KoH reign on earth Ezekiel 37:14-21. So to say the remnant is all that will be saved in the KoH reign is to say that God didn’t mean “all Israel” Romans 11:26 will be delivered and all their sins will be forgiven v 27.

4. The calling and election is sure for Israel’s covenants are unconditional and eternal. This is why there gifts and callings are without repentance Romans 11:29.

5. Saying there are no proofs of ancestry by natural descent is not really true overall.
Read the genealogy’s of Abraham and David. Christ ministry those Jews knew what tribe they were from.
Peter and James had accounts of Jews of the strangers of the dispora and the twelve tribes.
Revelation 7 has the tribes of Israel listed.
Jews also believe that one role of Elijah’s to restore all things is to make sure everybody knows what tribe they belong to.

6. John 3:16, Galatians 3 and any other scripture that deals with salvation has nothing to do with KoH covenant promises to Israel concerning the KoH and Israel’s restoration of the land and the throne. You can’t show any scripture to prove that.

7. I have already debunked your idea of the church being the Israel of God and why grammatically and context and you just skated it and gave your idea because you know you can’t debunk what I said.

8. I have debunked your no rapture theory and you skated right by with a weak because we are Israel of God when I have already told you the true context.

9. All you can do is spiritualize scriptures out of context.

10. You can’t debunk the fact that the original covenants was promised to Israel and Judah . This is why you have to build up straw men to try and prove that Israel’s covenants are null and void and now they belong to the church.
With God all things are possible and his promises are sure.

10. The church can call themselves Spiritual Jews and Israel of God and be correct according to salvation Romans 2:9 in a secondary meaning but not according to the land and the throne which wasn’t even the context of that passage. The passage of Romans 2 was about how those under the law would be judged.
So the physical nation of all Jews will be save to rule at head of the nations Isaiah 2:2-4. The eternal covenants of the KoH concerning the land and throne are to physical Israel who will be all be saved not the church. Jerry kelso

 

[keras]

1. Who determines who the Israel of God? The answer is God and his word.

So; it sure isn't you and your theories.

God will keep His promises to the Patriarchs. They were chosen because of their faith in God. Their descendants are also those who have faith. Faith is our guide....2 Corinthians 5:7, Hebrews 4:3, +

I realize that many OT prophesies are specific about natural descent for God's blessings, but to apply that now, is to negate all that Jesus came for. Many verses plainly say that we Christians are the heirs of God's promises and your continued denial of this truth is a serious indictment against you.

 

[jerry kelso]

Jerry,

The 12 tribes were comprised of both Jews and Gentiles from the beginning of covenant history.

Genesis 17:12
And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

Keras has cited additional confirming Scriptures.

God's chosen covenant people have been multiethnic from the beginning.

And they were included in James' letter to "my brethren" of the twelve tribes.

You blew it again.

jgr,

1. Genesis 17:12 is for every man child who was in the household of Abraham and this included slaves that were not of his seed to show that Jew and Gentiles would be saved.
Circumcision was to set them apart and show the flesh was imperfect.
But this has no bearing on the promise of the individual seed of Genesis 12 and was fulfilled in Genesis 22.

2. David had Gentiles in his lineage that showed Jews and Gentiles would be saved.
The point is their was a seed of Ishmael but they were not the same as the seed of Issac. But there was still Jews, and Gentiles.
Abraham was a Gentile but he was the Father of Israel who are not Gentiles so does that mean there was no real set apart nation called Israel that was not gentile?
The Bible recognizes Jew, Gentile and the church.
So just because Abraham was a gentile does it mean his nation was gentile? They were not gentiles for they were set apart.
Just because there was a gentile in David’s lineage does that mean the throne is not in Israel or not Jewish?
There was no law of circumcision for the church. The circumcision of the heart is about salvation.
There is no scripture that says Israel will become the church or that the church will become Israel.
Jews and Gentiles are comprised of the church in this age. There is a remnant Of grace of Jews. The church makes the nation of Israel jealous so they will come back to God to help them fulfill their earthly callings.

3. The bottom line is God has a reason for everything and the church and Israel’s callings are different and at different times. They are distinct in nature of their callings.
I have already shown that the church is not called Israel of God in its proper context.
Nothing you can produce will change the fact that Israel will be the separated mated from the church in the KoH reign at the head of the nation, throne and the land in the KoH reign on earth.
Jerry kelso

 

[jerry kelso]

So; it sure isn't you and your theories.

God will keep His promises to the Patriarchs. They were chosen because of their faith in God. Their descendants are also those who have faith. Faith is our guide....2 Corinthians 5:7, Hebrews 4:3, +

I realize that many OT prophesies are specific about natural descent for God's blessings, but to apply that now, is to negate all that Jesus came for. Many verses plainly say that we Christians are the heirs of God's promises and your continued denial of this truth is a serious indictment against you.

keras,

1. Are you going to tell me 2 Samuel 7:13-16; 1 Chronicles 28:1-8; Isaiah 2/2-4;9:6-7; Ezekiel 37:16:28 etc.

2. Are you going to say that those covenants to Israel alone about the KoH reign on earth are not eternal?

3. What scripture says Israel’s covenants concerning the KoH reign and the land in the kingdom becomes the churches or a shared custody between the two.
Scripture not your opinion and conjecture that stem from loose exegesis. Jerry Kelso

 

[BABerean2]

The 12 tribes are Israel and James ministry was to the Jews under the New Covenant.
Most all the early church was nothing but Jews.
Jews had a remnant Of Grace according to Paul .
Paul preached to the Jews before he went to the Gentiles.

2. James wasn’t calling Jews and Gentiles of the church Israel. He was only speaking to Jews.
The 12 tribes were still there and punished til 70 A.D.

3. The problem you have admitting is the KoH message was over before the Dayof Pentecost Matthew 23:37-37; Acts 1:6-7.
So your back door answer of association don’t work.
jerry Kelso

You must be very confused if you think "the twelve tribes" = "the tribe of Judah"(Jews), or living in the region of Judea (Acts 2:14).


Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: (Judaea=G2453)

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (Israel=G2475)



Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.


Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

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Was Paul an Israelite or a Jew, or both?

Php 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

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[jerry kelso]

You must be very confused if you think "the twelve tribes" = "the tribe of Judah"(Jews), or living in the region of Judea (Acts 2:14).


Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: (Judaea=G2453)

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (Israel=G2475)



Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.


Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

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Was Paul an Israelite or a Jew, or both?

Php 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

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baberean2,

1. I said the twelve tribes were Israel not Judah.

2. The truth is that all are interchangeable.

3. Hebrews ties to Abraham Genesis 14:13.

4. Israel is tied to Jacob’s name being changed when he wrestled with the angel Genesis 32:28.

5. When the tribes were divided; 10 tribes to Assyria and Two to Babylon Jews was used of Judah 2 Kings 16:6; 25:25.
After the Babylonian captivity it came to include Israel as well.

6. Romans 11:1 Paul said he was an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin which was in captivity with Judah in Babylon.
Hebrews 11:22; Paul said he was a Hebrew and an Israelite.
Paul said he was a Jew Of Tarsus in Acts 21:39.


7. Romans 2:17-29 the usage of Jew is for all Israel who was under the law of Moses v 17.
Roman’s 2:9 talks about the evil Jew and verse 10 about the good Jew.
The whole context is about all the Jews of the nation of Israel being judged, not gentiles in vs. 17:29.

8. Romans 2:28-29; Galatians 6:16 is only used for the church figuratively because of salvation.

9. Your Judah only Jews theory is wrong.
And once again you have accused me of saying something I didn’t with the 1st point about the 12 tribes. You are wrong again. Jerry kelso

 

[BABerean2]

baberean2,

1. I said the twelve tribes were Israel not Judah.

2. The truth is that all are interchangeable.

3. Hebrews ties to Abraham Genesis 14:13.

4. Israel is tied to Jacob’s name being changed when he wrestled with the angel Genesis 32:28.

5. When the tribes were divided; 10 tribes to Assyria and Two to Babylon Jews was used of Judah 2 Kings 16:6; 25:25.
After the Babylonian captivity it came to include Israel as well.

6. Romans 11:1 Paul said he was an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin which was in captivity with Judah in Babylon.
Hebrews 11:22; Paul said he was a Hebrew and an Israelite.
Paul said he was a Jew Of Tarsus in Acts 21:39.


7. Romans 2:17-29 the usage of Jew is for all Israel who was under the law of Moses v 17.
Roman’s 2:9 talks about the evil Jew and verse 10 about the good Jew.
The whole context is about all the Jews of the nation of Israel being judged, not gentiles in vs. 17:29.

8. Romans 2:28-29; Galatians 6:16 is only used for the church figuratively because of salvation.

9. Your Judah only Jews theory is wrong.
And once again you have accused me of saying something I didn’t with the 1st point about the 12 tribes. You are wrong again. Jerry kelso

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:


(KJV+) ButG1161 Peter,G4074 standing upG2476 withG4862 theG3588 eleven,G1733 lifted upG1869 hisG848 voice,G5456 andG2532 saidG669 unto them,G846 Ye menG435 of Judaea,G2453 andG2532 allG537 ye that dwellG2730 at Jerusalem,G2419 beG2077 thisG5124 knownG1110 unto you,G5213 andG2532 hearkenG1801 to myG3450 words:G4487


G2453
Ἰουδαῖος
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - Jew (-ess), of Juda.
Total KJV occurrences: 196

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[jerry kelso]

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:


(KJV+) ButG1161 Peter,G4074 standing upG2476 withG4862 theG3588 eleven,G1733 lifted upG1869 hisG848 voice,G5456 andG2532 saidG669 unto them,G846 Ye menG435 of Judaea,G2453 andG2532 allG537 ye that dwellG2730 at Jerusalem,G2419 beG2077 thisG5124 knownG1110 unto you,G5213 andG2532 hearkenG1801 to myG3450 words:G4487


G2453
Ἰουδαῖος
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - Jew (-ess), of Juda.
Total KJV occurrences: 196

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baberean2,

1. Once again you won’t rebut the scriptures I gave that show the word Jew is used for all Israel as well as those from Judah.
You love to give one side and ignore the other side.

2. You don’t want to call Israel Jews but you don’t mind saying gentiles are the Israel of God.
Why is that? Because you don’t believe in proper context.
You bash the biblical context that I gave but you can’t rebut it and most of the time you don’t even try.
Can’t you be fair in exegesis one time? So far it seems not. Jerry Kelso

 

[BABerean2]

baberean2,

1. Once again you won’t rebut the scriptures I gave that show the word Jew is used for all Israel as well as those from Judah.
You love to give one side and ignore the other side.

2. You don’t want to call Israel Jews but you don’t mind saying gentiles are the Israel of God.
Why is that? Because you don’t believe in proper context.
You bash the biblical context that I gave but you can’t rebut it and most of the time you don’t even try.
Can’t you be fair in exegesis one time? So far it seems not. Jerry Kelso

Jerry,

None of the last post was written by me.

It contained scripture and the definition of a Greek word used in the scripture.

The word "Jew" can mean living in the region of Judea.
This is a fact.

Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin, but also lived in Judea at one point in time.
He also described himself as a "Hebrew".


G2453
Ἰουδαῖος
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - Jew (-ess), of Juda.
Total KJV occurrences: 196


That Greek word is used 196 times in the King James version.

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[jerry kelso]

Jerry,

None of the last post was written by me.

It contained scripture and the definition of a Greek word used in the scripture.

The word "Jew" can mean living in the region of Judea.
This is a fact.

Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin, but also lived in Judea at one point in time.
He also described himself as a "Hebrew".


G2453
Ἰουδαῖος
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - Jew (-ess), of Juda.
Total KJV occurrences: 196


That Greek word is used 196 times in the King James version.

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baberean2,

1. 1111; 1113; 11114 were your posts and seem to be in the same vein.

2. I am sure it is keras. Sorry if I got you mixed up.
I already gave the scriptures for everything and the wordJewis usedfor all Israel too. Jerry kelso

 

[BABerean2]

baberean2,

1. 1111; 1113; 11114 were your posts and seem to be in the same vein.

2. I am sure it is keras. Sorry if I got you mixed up.
I already gave the scriptures for everything and the wordJewis usedfor all Israel too. Jerry kelso

The word "American" is often used to describe a citizen of the United States.
However, Canada and Mexico are also part of North America.

In the same way the word "Jew" was used during ancient times to describe someone from the geographical area of Judea.
The word "Jew" was sometimes used to describe those from the tribe of Judah, or Hebrews, or Israelites.

The Apostle Paul was not from the tribe of Judah, but did live for a time in Judea.

Paul described himself as an "Israelite" in Romans 11:1, and as a "Hebrew" in Philipians 3:5.

These days the word "Jew" is often used to describe those who are members of a religion known as Orthodox Judaism, which is based on the opinions of the rabbis. Its source of truth is the Babylonian Talmud.

Sammy Davis, Jr. was a man of African ancestry who converted to Orthodox Judaism, and called himself a "Jew".

Jesus of Nazareth was a true "Jew", being from the tribe of Judah.
The most important genealogy in the Bible is His, found in Matthew 1:1.
This fact is confirmed by Paul in Galatians 3:16.

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[jerry kelso]

The word "American" is often used to describe a citizen of the United States.
However, Canada and Mexico are also part of North America.

In the same way the word "Jew" was used during ancient times to describe someone from the geographical area of Judea.
The word "Jew" was sometimes used to describe those from the tribe of Judah, or Hebrews, or Israelites.

The Apostle Paul was not from the tribe of Judah, but did live for a time in Judea.

Paul described himself as an "Israelite" in Romans 11:1, and as a "Hebrew" in Philipians 3:5.

These days the word "Jew" is often used to describe those who are members of a religion known as Orthodox Judaism, which is based on the opinions of the rabbis. Its source of truth is the Babylonian Talmud.

Sammy Davis, Jr. was a man of African ancestry who converted to Orthodox Judaism, and called himself a "Jew".

Jesus of Nazareth was a true "Jew", being from the tribe of Judah.
The most important genealogy in the Bible is His, found in Matthew 1:1.
This fact is confirmed by Paul in Galatians 3:16.

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baberean2,

1. Matthew 1:1 is the book of generation of Jesus Christ, the sin of David (the throne); the son of Abraham. Genesis 12:3; Acts 2:30.
Verse 21 is about salvation vs 18:25.

2. Like 1:32-33; He shall be great and shall be called the son of the highest and the Lord God shall give him the throne of his father
David;
And he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luke 1:67-72; 73-79. Salvation through David and Abraham.

3. Read the whole 3rd chapter including v is about salvation only.
There is nothing about the throne or the land. Jerry Kelso

 

[BABerean2]

2. Like 1:32-33; He shall be great and shall be called the son of the highest and the Lord God shall give him the throne of his father
David;
And he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

"forever" is not 1,000 years.

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[Riberra]

"forever" is not 1,000 years.

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But the time of Jesus' reign on the Earth have to start at some point in time...obviously Jesus is not actually PHYSICALLY reigning on the Earth.

 

[seventysevens]

..obviously Jesus is not actually PHYSICALLY reigning on the Earth.

? Suppose you think it means spiritually? Why would Jesus PHYSICALLY come to earth a second time and not reign as scripture says as it CLEARLY says he PHYSICALLY returns to earth

 

[BABerean2]

But the time of Jesus' reign on the Earth have to start at some point in time...obviously Jesus is not actually PHYSICALLY reigning on the Earth.

What does the text say?

Rev 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"


Rev 11:18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth."

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[keras]

2. I am sure it is keras. Sorry if I got you mixed up.
I already gave the scriptures for everything and the wordJewis usedfor all Israel too. Jerry kelso

No, I have given up on you, Jerry.
You are locked into your false beliefs, as Isaiah 29:9-12 says will happen to those who believe manmade theories and doctrines.
Have you ever really though of what you should do if what you believe doesn't happen? If you are still on earth, as the extreme heat, earthquakes, violent storms and tsunamis of the Lord's terrible Day of wrath crashes around you?

The shame of it is that God does promise protection for His people and to bless them greatly as they all live in peace and prosperity in all of the holy Land. THIS IS what is prophesied. Why not believe it?

 

[Riberra]

What does the text say?

The text say that there will be a Day when Jesus will PHYSICALLY REIGN ON The Earth ...

Do you agree than That Day WHEN Jesus will PHYSICALLY REIGN ON THE EARTH is still yet to come ?

 

[BABerean2]

The text say that there will be a Day when Jesus will PHYSICALLY REIGN ON The Earth ...

Do you agree than That Day WHEN Jesus will PHYSICALLY REIGN ON THE EARTH is still yet to come ?

You are agreeing with the woman at the well.
You must have missed the part where Jesus corrected her.

Joh 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.



Paul said Christ returns "in flaming fire".

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.


Peter said the fire comes on "the day of the Lord" "as a thief in the night".
This connects the passage to 1 Thessalonians 5:1-2, and Revelation 16:15-16, which are Second Coming passages.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


Christ will not rule on this rotten, sin-cursed world for 1,000 years when He returns.
This world is going to burn.

Peter was looking for the New Heavens and the New Earth, and I am looking for the same thing.

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[Riberra]

Peter was looking for the New Heavens and the New Earth, and I am looking for the same thing.

Have you ripped the whole Revelation Chapter 20 out of your Bible who clearly talk about the 1,000 years reign of Jesus on the Earth ? ....The NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH of Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 is cited to occur AFTER the Great White Throne Judgment mentioned in Revelation 20.