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The Obama Legacy Deserves To Be Destroyed

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The Obama Legacy Deserves To Be Destroyed

It’s strange that a president who had such a transformative effect on our national discourse will leave such a negligible policy legacy. But Barack Obama, whose imperial term changed the way Americans interact and in some ways paved the way for the Trump presidency, is now watching his much-celebrated and mythologized two-term legacy be systematically demolished. This, in many ways, tells us that American governance still works.
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Even when implementing laws Congress could pass, Obama and his allies relied on coercing participation through mandates. But when it became inconvenient, they began arbitrarily implementing parts laws. Administrative discretion became administrative abuse.
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As we now see, this kind of governance not only corrodes constitutional order but undermines stability as new presidents busy themselves overturning the executive actions and international agreements enacted by the previous administration. While most Americans aren’t sticklers for process, it seems they are content with destroying legacies built on the rickety foundation of unilateralism for political reasons.
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That’s fine, too. It means that if Trump engages in similar legislative efforts through the executive office, his agenda will also be dismantled one day. That’s as it should be
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Executive orders are a terrible way to do things. In Obama’s defense however, the rampant obstructionism by the GOP left him with little choice unless he wanted to spend 8 years doing nothing.
 
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Executive orders are a terrible way to do things. In Obama’s defense however, the rampant obstructionism by the GOP left him with little choice unless he wanted to spend 8 years doing nothing.
I rather have him do nothing with regards to treaties then to bypass senate responsibility altogether via executive order.
 
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I think we all understand why the Right feel Obama's legacy deserves to be destroyed. We need only look at the guy that was elected as the antidote.
 
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I rather have him do nothing with regards to treaties then to bypass senate responsibility altogether via executive order.
Executive agreements have been part of American foreign policy for decades. As long as they do not require a change of US law, they are just seen as an exercise of the President's executive power.
 
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It is perfectly reasonable to rely on "tradition" since it establishes that there really wasn't anything different about Obama with regards to Executive Orders versus all the other presidents over the last half century.

But there was another difference. ;)
 
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It is perfectly reasonable to rely on "tradition" since it establishes that there really wasn't anything different about Obama with regards to Executive Orders versus all the other presidents over the last half century.

But there was another difference. ;)
Again, so what?
 
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Again, so what?

If someone says "Obama's legacy deserves to be destroyed because he was an Emperor and enacted legislation by fiat through Executive Orders" and they don't say the EXACT SAME THING ABOUT ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS WHO HAVE USED EO'S then it shows that the use of Executive orders was not the reason they disagree with his legacy.
 
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If someone says "Obama's legacy deserves to be destroyed because he was an Emperor and enacted legislation by fiat through Executive Orders" and they don't say the EXACT SAME THING ABOUT ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS WHO HAVE USED EO'S then it shows that the use of Executive orders was not the reason they disagree with his legacy.
The messenger being a hypocrite, does not negate their message.
 
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No, you don't get it. It doesn't matter what they were about. They were atheistic Bible-hating left wing executive orders just because Obama issued them. That's why they need to be destroyed.[/Poe]
Shouldn't they be atheistic bible-hating left wing muslim socialist kenyan executive orders?
 
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Shouldn't they be atheistic bible-hating left wing muslim socialist kenyan executive orders?

Those are highlighted in yellow.
 
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