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This obviously isn't enough to distinguish authentic development or those who practice it would be one faith."the weight of Scriptural warrant, of substantiation in word and in power,
I don't see anything in there that wasn't said to the Jews. This really highlights the universality of the Gospel message. Your attempt to make it something that it's not only robs it of it's Spirit. Plus he made converts. The pagan nations have already been converted btw. It's history of the Catholic Church. There really aren't any idols to smash anymore. I know you think the Catholics are the idolaters of the world but you are deceived.i argued that rather than Paul did not teach that things were be fine if they had set up graven images of the True God to worship, he taught that the living God was not worshiped that way, since He is beyond this. People did not put faith in Christ because of his appearance, but by what He said and did.
Then Paul stood in front of the Areopagus and said, “Athenians, I see how extremely religious you are in every way. 23 For as I went through the city and looked carefully at the objects of your worship, I found among them an altar with the inscription, ‘To an unknown god.’ What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you. 24 The God who made the world and everything in it, he who is Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by human hands, 25 nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mortals life and breath and all things. 26 From one ancestor he made all nations to inhabit the whole earth, and he allotted the times of their existence and the boundaries of the places where they would live, 27 so that they would search for God and perhaps grope for him and find him—though indeed he is not far from each one of us. 28 For ‘In him we live and move and have our being’; as even some of your own poets have said,
‘For we too are his offspring.’
29 Since we are God’s offspring, we ought not to think that the deity is like gold, or silver, or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of mortals. 30 While God has overlooked the times of human ignorance, now he commands all people everywhere to repent, 31 because he has fixed a day on which he will have the world judged in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”
32 When they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some scoffed; but others said, “We will hear you again about this.” 33 At that point Paul left them. 34 But some of them joined him and became believers, including Dionysius the Areopagite and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.
So, you say the only thing Jesus changed were laws governing lifestyle and social norms. Philosophers would call that accidental change. Do you know what it means to satisfy the demands of the Law? What event that would be the cause of? Paul taught that the power of sin is death. The Law increases the power of sin. The purpose of the Law was to show man that sin had dominion over him. This is much more than dietary laws. So, what happens when the Law is finally destroyed? Quite a change you're missing. The word reformed as a descriptive term for the fulfillment of the old covenant is new to me. It seems an odd meaning to attach to the Gospel since the Apostles descriptive word of the same is New.Because the law and laws I refer to are NOT that of typological dietary and ritual laws which is what the NT states were "shadows" "imposed on them." "in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days, (Colossians 2:16) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Hebrews 9:10)
You post scriptures to support your statements as if they are going to mean to me what they mean to you. Words are transitory, it's the concepts we attach to them that are not. You aren't grasping that so a sincere exchange of ideas is impossible.
Not worth responding to because of the bolded.Which simply does not change how the devil basically works, nor the flesh. A look at even history shows the devil seeking to reign via proxy servants by seducing souls with the victim-entitlement mentality employed in Gn. 3, and setting up graven images for souls to bow down and pray to or before. But because your church does it then you must impose a change upon how demons operate.
The bolded is bias that dominates your ability to exchange matters of faith and religious ideas sincerely.No, actually my brain does not contain stone or porcelain or plastic images, but instead these graven (firmly fixed, carved, sculpted) images are set up right in and on your churches, inviting souls to worship before them. Thus your compelled recourse to "but demons have changes tactics."
nd as said and showed, the NT manifests what changed, which was not the moral law, and thus we see the reiterations of OT moral laws. But nothing sanctioning your graven images, ir even setting up, exalting the [FONT=Arial, sans-serif] Mary of Catholicism,[/FONT] as a omnipotent ("by grace") demigoddess.
That isn't a distinction the how is still a tradition a priesthood a temple an oracle, it's fundamentally the same. Do you think Paul would teach them that his God is the true object of their worship if what you say were true? I bolded a statement of yours because you missed the point of Paul's attraction to the worship of this god. An unknown god is by definition a god with no 'graven images'. So He wasn't giving them commands to obey. That isn't a good approach to conversion. He was taking advantage of a likeness to true worship they were already doing. Basically he was using something they all agree on to persuade. Confirmation bias got the best of you.Your sophistry ignores the fact that the distinction is for the Hebrews was not simply that the true God was worshiped, but how, and thus, among other distinctions, there were not to make and set up representative graven images for people and even people to worship before, and which is nowhere abrogated under the New Covenant, in teaching or examples.
are they mutually exclusive? I believe both material and spiritual are united as one. You are the either or thinker not me. The surprise will be on you since you and the world are in agreement about who the enemy is right now.Actually the people of God are taking their homeland of milk and honey away from peoples and nations who thought it was theirs, since the meek shall inherit the earth, and "the god of this world" presumes it is his, and thus do the rebellious, and at the end the devil will "gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea... on the breadth of the earth" against the people of God. (Revelation 20:8,9) But since you reject that prophecy as literal you will be in for a real surprise.
no, the Divine law transcends the natural law, those two are immutable. The moral law is part inherent and part learned and conformed to the laws above it because of our fallen state. The prohomosexual polemists violate the natural law.Which is just what prohomosexual polemicists try to argue, but the fact is the moral laws are transcendent and universal.
You think Jesus is ok with the Church taking up arms and going to war with a pagan nation? Because they're pagan?That only applies to how the church is to treat such as not being a theocracy (contrary to your history), not to the lawfulness of what they do. idolatry, homosexual relations, etc. are still sinful, even though the church is not to execute them. Thus your argument is invalid.
That is your argument for this?
Eloy Craft:
Before Jesus it was a time to conquer and wipe out the idolatrous people and the memory of the creatures they worship. Now we want to bring Christ's Gospel of love to them.
[/QUOTE]Pot meet Kettle.Actually the problem is your unwillingness to be convinced.
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