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No where is it COMMANDED to keep Sunday. It was a tradition recognized by the apostles, but there was no command to keep any DAY, only Jesus.

Partly correct thanks for your honesty 1stcenturylady. As there is no commandment that says God's 4th Commandment has now been ABOLISHED and there is NO Command to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY day and SIN is breaking any of God's Commandments then it only stands to reason that those who CONTINUE in SIN will not enter into God's KINGDOM.

GODS 4th COMMANDMENT of the 10

EXODUS 20:8-11
8,
Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9,
Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
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But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
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For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPETNANT SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow the WORD of GOD over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Hello listed,

Do you have any scriptures to share? You are correct in saying that Jesus kept the Fathers commands. What you have NOT said however is the Jesus and the Father are ONE (John 10:30)
OK so you think Jesus is the Father. Then Jesus is a fraud because He told us to pray Our Father... addressing Someone besides Him. Who did Jesus pray to? Who did Jesus address on the cross with My God? Dang me, take a rope and hang me, but you're hilarious.
John 13:34 is in reference to LOVE but God's people already had the two great commandments since the OLD TESTAMENT which is was a summary of the 10 Commandments (Deut 6:5 and Lev 19:18).
Nice dodge and bypass actually negating the passage.
What was NEW about Jesus commandment to LOVE one another?

None had ever LOVED another like Jesus loved them (John 13:34). That is WHY Jesus is our EXAMPLE. John 13:35, For I have given you an EXAMPLE, that you should DO as I have DONE to you.

The NEW Commandment is to LOVE as JESUS loved and FOLLOW HIM as our EXAMPLE!
Jesus gave His life for me. Have you done that for another? Nope!
Jesus kept the SABBATH because he was the LORD and CREATOR of it as well as ALL the COMMANDMENTS of GOD through LOVE.
No Jesus kept the sabbath because He is and Jew and under the covenant issued to Israel. Unless Jesus did this He couldn't be our Savior, the Messiah. You over look this fact.
Do you love Jesus?
Yes, so why do you try to trap and mislead me with sophistry?
Jesus says if you LOVE me keep my commandments. Which ever way you want to spin this unless you are born again to LOVE and follow Jesus you will NOT keep his Commandments. This is the NEW COVEANT promise of God's LAW written on the heart in those who BELIEVE (Heb 8:10-12). Everything is fulfilled in LOVE and is why it is written LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE...
You intend me to believe this law written on my heart is the covenant given to Israel by ignoring verse 9 which says: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt.. You referenced it and refuse to believe and accept it. Why? I think you're trying to snooker me out of my salvation for the law which brings only condemnation and death. Abraham didn't have the law given to Israel as Moses said in Deuteronomy 5:3. So the law Abraham kept (Genesis 26) can't be that law. Jesus didn't give the ten commandments as John says in his Gospel 1:17 - For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. This is a comparative statement showing what I said. You simply toss it out in unbelief so you can support your false teaching. In-other-words you clearly don't believe the Gospels either.
ROMANS 13:8-10 [8], Owe no man anything, but to LOVE ANOTHER: FOR HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW. [9], FOR THIS, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT KILL, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, YOU SHALL NOT COVET, AND IF THERE BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is summed up in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
True enough love is the fulfilling of the law. How can you be in violation of the law and in compliance with John 13:34? I find this clearly teaches against doing any ouf your shalt nots in bold above. Luke 6:31 teaches the same thing. Surely you don't want others to murder you, steal from you, lie to and or aboout you, or doing your wife if you have one. Since your issue seems to be that of behavior both of my passages deal with it dismissing your issue. You present them only to try and prove people keep some of the ten commandments, so why not keep the 4th. In short you're trying to hood-wink people into a lie. Verse 6 preceding you quote from Hebrews 8 says we have a better covenant which you refuse in favor of works oriented salvation. Jesus calls For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Jesus calls those people who do this thieves and robbers trying to get in by other means than Him in John 10. No where does the law or any place in the OT grant eternal life.
You CANNOT separate LOVE from OBEDIENCE to God's LAW because LOVE is the FULFILLING (doing) of it and is the reason why Jeusus says; IF you LOVE me KEEP my COMMANDMENTS (John 14:15) and PAUL says LOVE is the FULFILLING of GOD's LAW (Romans 13:8-10), BECAUSE it is ONLY through FAITH that works by LOVE that anyone can follow Jesus (Galatians 5:6).
I can justly separate obedience to the law from obedience to God with John 15:10 and 1 John 3:23 because of John 1:17. The only way you can get around those passages is by deletion or changing the meaning of words.
Jesus did not teach against the LAW and the prophets he came to fulfill them in those who BELIEVE his WORD (Matthew 5:17-19; John 3:15-21).
Jesus changed the law in the Sermon on the Mount with "but I say..." after referencing the law. Besides that you ignore the the last 2 words of Luke 24:44 which explain what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-19.
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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Sin was before the law (Romans 5:13) and the reason the law was given (Galatians 3:19). Sorry you reject these passages and the 4 letter word also found in 1 John 3:4 which disallows for your idea.
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
Then by your own words you won't get in. How very sad. You'll say I tried to keep the law and I'll say Jesus.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Why do you keep trying to threaten people with misapplied references? You don't keep the 4th as written and are in wilful unrepentant sin by your own words. God doesn't give you permission to amend the 4th to enable you to keep the sabbath.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
So is your sabbath keeping because it doesn't line up with Exodus 20:8-11. Your implied accusation has no force.
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
You don't listen very well and refuse to accept the written word of God you've been quoted even from Moses or Jeremiah. What can I say? I'm not about to forsake grace and Jesus for the law to try attaining salvation. I'm not a thief (John 10).
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
Do you by pass this with gender? I thinks so.
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
What a hoot - God winking at sin.
 
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So just to be clear, is that sin, repent, forgiveness; sin, repent, forgiveness; sin, repent, forgiveness >>>?

No, what I recognize is the fact that until the day we are made just like Him, sin will still be part of us.

Nobody either before or after the point of Salvation, has ever lived a sinless life except Jesus.

Will we stumble? Yes.

Will we sin? Yes.

Even under the "Torah" there was a provision for sins committed out of ignorance.

Peter sinned a total of four times after he was saved. 3x with the sheet laid down. And once he was guilty of hypocrisy.

Paul sinned in that he reviled the High Priest. (cf. Acts 23:5)

And twice, he was told by the Holy Spirit not to go to Jerusalem.

If the Apostles couldn't do it, do not expect us to do it either. But that does not mean we shouldn't try. :)

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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Partly correct thanks for your honesty 1stcenturylady. As there is no commandment that says God's 4th Commandment has now been ABOLISHED and there is NO Command to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY day and SIN is breaking any of God's Commandments then it only stands to reason that those who CONTINUE in SIN will not enter into God's KINGDOM.

GODS 4th COMMANDMENT of the 10

EXODUS 20:8-11
8,
Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPETNANT SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow the WORD of GOD over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

It doesn't specify the 4th commandment in particular, except in Col. 2 and Rom. 14, it says that the whole law was given UNTIL Christ who was manifest to take away our sin. That would include the 4th commandment as well as any other number.

The law showed us our sin.
Christ took the desire to sin out of us and gave us His Spirit to produce the fruit of the Spirit. If you have all the fruit of the Spirit, you cannot sin.
 
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No, what I recognize is the fact that until the day we are made just like Him, sin will still be part of us.

Nobody either before or after the point of Salvation, has ever lived a sinless life except Jesus.

Will we stumble? Yes.

Will we sin? Yes.

Even under the "Torah" there was a provision for sins committed out of ignorance.

Peter sinned a total of four times after he was saved. 3x with the sheet laid down. And once he was guilty of hypocrisy.

Paul sinned in that he reviled the High Priest. (cf. Acts 23:5)

And twice, he was told by the Holy Spirit not to go to Jerusalem.

If the Apostles couldn't do it, do not expect us to do it either. But that does not mean we shouldn't try. :)

God Bless

Till all are one.

1 John 3:4-9 says a Christian does not sin; in fact, we cannot sin.

How is that possible?

I see you quoted 1 John 1:8-10. Verse 9 is how to BECOME a Christian, so verse 8 and 10 are unbelievers. You cannot apply them to us who have already confessed all of our sin, and been filled with His Spirit. Verse 7 describes a Christian, not 8.
 
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Is spanking love? Are demands love? The law isn't given to show love.

Love huh.

If a person is murdered, and the murderer can't be found, then according to God's "love":

"If one be found slain in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee to possess it, lying in the field, and it be not known who hath slain him: Then thy elders and thy judges shall come forth, and they shall measure unto the cities which are round about him that is slain: And it shall be, that the city which is next unto the slain man, even the elders of that city shall take an heifer, which hath not been wrought with, and which hath not drawn in the yoke; And the elders of that city shall bring down the heifer unto a rough valley, which is neither eared nor sown, and shall strike off the heifer's neck there in the valley:" -Deut. 21:1-4 (KJV)

And in spite of it all, to show from the Old Testament the Decalogue and the Torah was exclusive to the Jews, we have God's own words:

"And Moses and Aaron said unto all the children of Israel, At even, then ye shall know that the Lord hath brought you out from the land of Egypt:" ex. 16:2 (KJV)

And it is again reiterated at the beginning of the Decalogue:

"I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." -Ex. 20:2 (KJV)

I can go on. There are 38 more references from Exodus 20:2 until Joshua 1, where it is recorded in scriptures that "corporate Israel" were the ones God led out of Egypt, out of captivity, and it was "corporate Israel" to whom the Decalogue and Torah applied to.

To ignore that, is to pick and choose what scriptures you want, and throw away the others.

Nothing good can come any further from this thread.

Except that we must go back under the Law.

At the very least, one part of it.

Even though I have confessed, repented, had the blood applied, because I don't keep a ritual Sabbath as some would have to believe, I guess I'm nothing but a sinner.

Might as well face it.

I am excluded from heaven.

I'm outta here.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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1 John 3:4-9 says a Christian does not sin; in fact, we cannot sin.

How is that possible?

I see you quoted 1 John 1:8-10. Verse 9 is how to BECOME a Christian, so verse 8 and 10 are unbelievers. You cannot apply them to us who have already confessed all of our sin, and been filled with His Spirit. Verse 7 describes a Christian, not 8.

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." -1 Jn. 1:8-10 (KJV)

So this "tells us how to become a Christian". Hum...

1 Jn. 3...hum...

Are you sinless?

Since the first time you confessed and repented, you have never sinned?

John was addressing the topic of antinomianism. (Lawlessness)

You really should buy yourself a good bible commentary and read what it says about this chapter.

If you have, then using your own words, you are not a Christian because "He that committeth sin is of the devil;" (cf. 1 Jn. 3:8)

You have been shown Peter sinned.

You have been shown Paul sinned.

We have no recourse than to accept the fact that neither one was saved, because they sinned, and "He that committeth sin is of the devil;".

Might as well tear out everything Paul and Peter wrote.

This is getting ridiculous.

I'm outta here.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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Love huh.

If a person is murdered, and the murderer can't be found, then according to God's "love":

"If one be found slain in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee to possess it, lying in the field, and it be not known who hath slain him: Then thy elders and thy judges shall come forth, and they shall measure unto the cities which are round about him that is slain: And it shall be, that the city which is next unto the slain man, even the elders of that city shall take an heifer, which hath not been wrought with, and which hath not drawn in the yoke; And the elders of that city shall bring down the heifer unto a rough valley, which is neither eared nor sown, and shall strike off the heifer's neck there in the valley:" -Deut. 21:1-4 (KJV)

And in spite of it all, to show from the Old Testament the Decalogue and the Torah was exclusive to the Jews, we have God's own words:

"And Moses and Aaron said unto all the children of Israel, At even, then ye shall know that the Lord hath brought you out from the land of Egypt:" ex. 16:2 (KJV)

And it is again reiterated at the beginning of the Decalogue:

"I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." -Ex. 20:2 (KJV)

I can go on. There are 38 more references from Exodus 20:2 until Joshua 1, where it is recorded in scriptures that "corporate Israel" were the ones God led out of Egypt, out of captivity, and it was "corporate Israel" to whom the Decalogue and Torah applied to.

To ignore that, is to pick and choose what scriptures you want, and throw away the others.

Nothing good can come any further from this thread.

Except that we must go back under the Law.

At the very least, one part of it.

Even though I have confessed, repented, had the blood applied, because I don't keep a ritual Sabbath as some would have to believe, I guess I'm nothing but a sinner.

Might as well face it.

I am excluded from heaven.

I'm outta here.

God Bless

Till all are one.
People don't seem much to pay attention to anything. In Exodus we have thou shalt not kill and we have God ordering the killing of even innocent babies and killing of a whole family for picking up sticks on the wrong day. My point is people don't understand what they read if they even read it in favor of their ideals.
 
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Love huh.

If a person is murdered, and the murderer can't be found, then according to God's "love":

"If one be found slain in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee to possess it, lying in the field, and it be not known who hath slain him: Then thy elders and thy judges shall come forth, and they shall measure unto the cities which are round about him that is slain: And it shall be, that the city which is next unto the slain man, even the elders of that city shall take an heifer, which hath not been wrought with, and which hath not drawn in the yoke; And the elders of that city shall bring down the heifer unto a rough valley, which is neither eared nor sown, and shall strike off the heifer's neck there in the valley:" -Deut. 21:1-4 (KJV)

And in spite of it all, to show from the Old Testament the Decalogue and the Torah was exclusive to the Jews, we have God's own words:

"And Moses and Aaron said unto all the children of Israel, At even, then ye shall know that the Lord hath brought you out from the land of Egypt:" ex. 16:2 (KJV)

And it is again reiterated at the beginning of the Decalogue:

"I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." -Ex. 20:2 (KJV)

I can go on. There are 38 more references from Exodus 20:2 until Joshua 1, where it is recorded in scriptures that "corporate Israel" were the ones God led out of Egypt, out of captivity, and it was "corporate Israel" to whom the Decalogue and Torah applied to.

To ignore that, is to pick and choose what scriptures you want, and throw away the others.

Nothing good can come any further from this thread.

Except that we must go back under the Law.

At the very least, one part of it.

Even though I have confessed, repented, had the blood applied, because I don't keep a ritual Sabbath as some would have to believe, I guess I'm nothing but a sinner.

Might as well face it.

I am excluded from heaven.

I'm outta here.

God Bless

Till all are one.
I do agree with your total post.
 
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Abraham married his sister, so it wasn't the whole covenant law that Abraham kept as you imply.

No he didn't... :doh:

He told Pharaoh Sarai was his sister in cowardice to preserve his own life supposing he would be killed so Pharaoh could have her.
 
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People don't seem much to pay attention to anything. In Exodus we have thou shalt not kill and we have God ordering the killing of even innocent babies and killing of a whole family for picking up sticks on the wrong day. My point is people don't understand what they read if they even read it in favor of their ideals.
It is not unlawful for God to take life as He is the one that gave it... no different than if you destroy something you made verses something I made. One is a crime, the other is not.
 
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Is spanking love? Are demands love? The law isn't given to show love.
Disciplining your child is completely in love if done with the right spirit.

If you demand your son or daughter not to go off with others you know to be trouble, is that love or just being overbearing?

Think listed...
 
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So why don't you refute his post instead of wasting your time digging me by quoting a partial sentence trying to make me an unbeliever? You do know that is goading and inflaming which is against the rules.
No goading just observation... truth hurts sometimes.
 
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"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." -1 Jn. 1:8-10 (KJV)

So this "tells us how to become a Christian". Hum...

1 Jn. 3...hum...

Are you sinless?

Since the first time you confessed and repented, you have never sinned?

John was addressing the topic of antinomianism. (Lawlessness)

You really should buy yourself a good bible commentary and read what it says about this chapter.

If you have, then using your own words, you are not a Christian because "He that committeth sin is of the devil;" (cf. 1 Jn. 3:8)

You have been shown Peter sinned.

You have been shown Paul sinned.

We have no recourse than to accept the fact that neither one was saved, because they sinned, and "He that committeth sin is of the devil;".

Might as well tear out everything Paul and Peter wrote.

This is getting ridiculous.

I'm outta here.

God Bless

Till all are one.

Paul wrote the same thing in Romans 6:2. We are dead to sin. We are new creatures. We are filled with the Spirit, and thus are no longer in the flesh Romans 8:9.

What happens when you are cleansed of all sin? Are you still a sinner? Or are you sin free? When used surgical instruments full of germs are sterilized, are they still full of germs? And what if they are immediately sealed inside a sterile container, as the Holy Spirit seals us? Are they still free from germs? It is only if they are compromised (we quench the Spirit) that they need to be sterilized again (repent and forgiveness) that they are again germ/sin free.

What this means is we are dead to willful sin. If you know something to be wrong and you do it anyway, you do it from your will, and are quenching the Spirit. But why do that when it is so much easier to listen to the guiding of the Spirit and maintain a good conscience? So to answer your question if I sin? No, not willful sins. Not since 1977. Do I sin unintentional sins of imperfection. Most definitely, but just as 1 John 1:7 tells us when we walk in the Spirit, those sins are cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. He is our advocate in heaven before the Father, as the Father demands perfection. Only those righteous and holy will be in heaven in His presence. Rev. 22:11

This seems to be a new concept for you, but it is right there in God's word. I pray your eyes will be opened, in Jesus name.

Have you ever been baptized with the Holy Spirit? I don't mean so you can speak in tongues, but to be free from sin? You would know it if you have. It is not something that you have to believe on faith. It is an experience just like in Acts. All desire to sin is GONE.

I have a testimony prepared that tells of that experience in 1977. Just ask if you care to read it by private mail to your inbox.
 
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No he didn't... :doh:

He told Pharaoh Sarai was his sister in cowardice to preserve his own life supposing he would be killed so Pharaoh could have her.

Why do you say "no he didn't"? It wasn't a lie. You didn't know that? :doh:Abraham just didn't say that he MARRIED her. But, yes, out of cowardice.

11 And Abraham said, “Because I thought, surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will kill me on account of my wife. 12 But indeed she is truly my sister. She is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
 
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I am back from worshipping the Son and LGW is sleeping.

I have some thoughts from the book of Galatians chapter 3. The Galatians were Gentiles and some sat at the feet of Paul and Barnabas soaking in the good news of salvation through believing in Jesus. Some time after P & B left someone infiltrated their ranks and started convincing them that they had to keep the Sinai covenant. That would have meant that they were becoming Sabbath observers. Boy, when Paul caught wind of this in his jail confinement he immediately shot off a letter to those apostates and in chapter 2 wrote: 4 Even that question came up only because of some so-called believers there—false ones, really—who were secretly brought in. They sneaked in to spy on us and take away the freedom we have in Christ Jesus. They wanted to enslave us and force us to follow their Jewish regulations. 5 But we refused to give in to them for a single moment. We wanted to preserve the truth of the gospel message for you. then in chapter 3 he addressed them as "Oh you foolish Galatians" and gave them a piece of his mind. Thank the Lord that somehow his letter was preserved for our admonition. In this letter Paul tell them/us a few of the differences between the old covenant and the new one.

I have read the account many times and for some reason never realized, until a short while ago, that the Galatians couldn't have been convicted by the Sinai covenant as the way they knew they were sinners and in need of a Savior. The schoolmaster law didn't exist in their minds. The schoolmaster law could only convict those who were under it and the Israelites were very exclusive. Gentiles were not allowed in their ranks. It had to have been Paul and Barnabas's teachings that changed their hearts. The ministration of death, 10 commandments known to the Israelites, which included Paul, were the ones who learned and were convicted by the schoolmaster law. Starting in verse 10 in the letter to the Galatians chapter 3 Paul was referring not the Gentiles, but to the Jews.

What is my point? My point is that it was not Paul that taught the Galatians to observe the Sinai covenant, so he didn't teach them the Sabbath of that covenant. And it was not the schoolmaster law that convinced them. Paul chastised them for giving up believing by faith and embracing works of the law. So, it is not the schoolmaster law, Torah, that influences Gentiles to become Christians, so the Sinai covenant has absolutely no purpose in serving God. The covenant is good history that Christians can glean much from. It is not the standard to which we owe allegiance.

It surely is not God or Paul teaching us that Christians must go under the law like the foolish Galatians did. So who is it that teaches such a gospel? Well, on this site it is definitely not me.
 
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Why do you say "no he didn't"? It wasn't a lie. You didn't know that? :doh:Abraham just didn't say that he MARRIED her. But, yes, out of cowardice.

11 And Abraham said, “Because I thought, surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will kill me on account of my wife. 12 But indeed she is truly my sister. She is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
Nice try at taking the verses out of context...

Genesis 12:11-13
11 And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon:

12 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they shall say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save thee alive.


13 Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.
 
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