Biblical, Enclosed Flat Earth and Firmament

[patrick jane]

The "arguments" you present in those pictures you keep posting are so easy to refute that it's a wonder why you keep posting them.

You haven't refuted all "arguments" because you can't debunk any of them and you haven't debunked them, and we keep debunking your science and cosmology.

 

[patrick jane]

I tend to ignore what I consider untrue. Exactly what the globers are doing. The difference between me and them is that I lived and breathed on a flying spinning ball for nearly 50 years. I've heard all the Fake "evidence" for a globe and was taught it all through school and college. They should be examining and comparing THEIR proofs to flat earth proof and evidence and remove their preconceived notions. Yet they refuse to do that.

Step off the ball for a week and imagine flat earth and how everything works perfectly, even better and much simpler than the "Beg" Bang Hoax. Take your mind and visualizations OFF the "planet" you love so much for a week and step into flat earth. Consider it a vacation and a short adventure and you know you can always get back on the ball anytime, it will always be there for you.

 

[Aldebaran]

I tend to ignore what I consider untrue. Exactly what the globers are doing. The difference between me and them is that I lived and breathed on a flying spinning ball for nearly 50 years. I've heard all the Fake "evidence" for a globe and was taught it all through school and college. They should be examining and comparing THEIR proofs to flat earth proof and evidence and remove their preconceived notions. Yet they refuse to do that.

Step off the ball for a week and imagine flat earth and how everything works perfectly, even better and much simpler than the "Beg" Bang Hoax. Take your mind and visualizations OFF the "planet" you love so much for a week and step into flat earth. Consider it a vacation and a short adventure and you know you can always get back on the ball anytime, it will always be there for you.

You said all that in the other thread.

 

[Aldebaran]

I tend to ignore what I consider untrue. Exactly what the globers are doing. The difference between me and them is that I lived and breathed on a flying spinning ball for nearly 50 years. I've heard all the Fake "evidence" for a globe and was taught it all through school and college. They should be examining and comparing THEIR proofs to flat earth proof and evidence and remove their preconceived notions. Yet they refuse to do that.

Step off the ball for a week and imagine flat earth and how everything works perfectly, even better and much simpler than the "Beg" Bang Hoax. Take your mind and visualizations OFF the "planet" you love so much for a week and step into flat earth. Consider it a vacation and a short adventure and you know you can always get back on the ball anytime, it will always be there for you.

You said all that in the other thread.

 

[Aldebaran]

You haven't refuted all "arguments" because you can't debunk any of them and you haven't debunked them, and we keep debunking your science and cosmology.

What have you debunked? Are you maintaining that the moon gives off light of its own, and that the sun is just a small disk about 3,000 miles up in the sky, or that the moon stays overhead for 76 hours straight? If you want to know if the moon does that, then watch it for 76 hours and let me know. Posting a video from Youtube of some guy making the claim is meaningless.

 

[patrick jane]

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Once again, my favorite Christian believer who also believes in flat earth EXPOSES new age occultism and thinking in the world today. His name is Will from the youtube channel : "the Truth is stranger than fiction" Better than a movie. He touches on a new Disney movie coming out now.


39 Minutes - Very Interesting

 

[patrick jane]

You said all that in the other thread.

It was worth repeating in this thread. Some words are changed also.

 

[patrick jane]

You said all that in the other thread.

I thought it qualified in this thread as well. I changed some words also.

 

[Aldebaran]

a WRINKLE in TRUTH (L'Engle, Graham & Flat Earth Ecumenism...)

Once again, my favorite Christian believer who also believes in flat earth EXPOSES new age occultism and thinking in the world today. His name is Will from the youtube channel : "the Truth is stranger than fiction" Better than a movie. He touches on a new Disney movie coming out now.


39 Minutes - Very Interesting

There you go posting more videos. Didn't I just get done telling you that posting all these videos doesn't prove anything? I could respond by posting a bunch of NASA videos and Space X videos, but I don't do that. I'm trying to have a discussion with you. I'm not going to play your game of "Here, watch another video".

 

[patrick jane]

What have you debunked? Are you maintaining that the moon gives off light of its own, and that the sun is just a small disk about 3,000 miles up in the sky, or that the moon stays overhead for 76 hours straight? If you want to know if the moon does that, then watch it for 76 hours and let me know. Posting a video from Youtube of some guy making the claim is meaningless.

So you pick a "fact" that neither of us can prove. Because you by yourself cannot determine whether the earth is 93,000,000 miles away from the sun. All of your"experiments" and "examples" you use are meaningless to us. We were all on the ball until researching this.

 

[patrick jane]

There you go posting more videos. Didn't I just get done telling you that posting all these videos doesn't prove anything? I could respond by posting a bunch of NASA videos and Space X videos, but I don't do that. I'm trying to have a discussion with you. I'm not going to play your game of "Here, watch another video".

Neither do your posts. I'm about to report you for trolling. Some folks may like them, do you speak for everybody now?

 

[MoneyGuy]

So you pick a "fact" that neither of us can prove. Because you by yourself cannot determine whether the earth is 93,000,000 miles away from the sun. All of your"experiments" and "examples" you use are meaningless to us. We were all on the ball until researching this.

The distance to the sun is provable by science. You know science? That thing that you're attempting to debunk with your flimsy evidence.

 

[patrick jane]

We know that God created two great lights on the fourth day, the sun and moon and the stars. Where was the sun on days 1,2 and 3? This proves evolution and the "beg" bang wrong, IMO. This also means the moon gives off it's own light as the sun does. It's not all from a reflection of the other great light. I believe firmly that moon landings were a Hoax. If they lie about that then everything is up for grabs. Do you trust the word of God or the science?


Genesis 1:1-19 KJV -
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

 

[patrick jane]

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[Aldebaran]

We know that God created two great lights on the fourth day, the sun and moon and the stars. Where was the sun on days 1,2 and 3? This proves evolution and the "beg" bang wrong, IMO. This also means the moon gives off it's own light as the sun does. It's not all from a reflection of the other great light.

If the moon gives off its own light, then why does the moon go through phases, with only part of the moon lit, which just happens to be the side of the moon facing the sun?
If you think the moon is a light emitting entity, take a look at it through a telescope sometime. Rocks, mountain ranges, craters, valleys, etc. do not emit light.
Don't just ignore what I'm telling you. If you think you can prove what I said to be wrong, then do so.

 

[patrick jane]

If the moon gives off its own light, then why does the moon go through phases, with only part of the moon lit, which just happens to be the side of the moon facing the sun?
If you think the moon is a light emitting entity, take a look at it through a telescope sometime. Rocks, mountain ranges, craters, valleys, etc. do not emit light.
Don't just ignore what I'm telling you. If you think you can prove what I said to be wrong, then do so.

God knows how and why. His ways are past knowing. The moon turns slightly but we only see one side apparently.

Romans 11:33-36 KJV -
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

 

[Aldebaran]

God knows how and why. His ways are past knowing. The moon turns slightly but we only see one side apparently.

Again, if you think the moon is a light emitting entity, take a look at it through a telescope sometime. Rocks, mountain ranges, craters, valleys, etc. do not emit light.
Don't just ignore what I'm telling you. If you think you can prove what I said to be wrong, then do so.

 

[patrick jane]

The distance to the sun is provable by science. You know science? That thing that you're attempting to debunk with your flimsy evidence.

Then the science should be repeatable by you to verify. I'm not looking for more proof of a globe since I knew I lived on one for 50 years. I've heard you can use smart phones to triangulate the sun and moon and calculate their distance. Get a few friends in on it and do the work and then research flat earth proofs and videos.

 

[patrick jane]

Again, if you think the moon is a light emitting entity, take a look at it through a telescope sometime. Rocks, mountain ranges, craters, valleys, etc. do not emit light.
Don't just ignore what I'm telling you. If you think you can prove what I said to be wrong, then do so.

If you can prove that God is wrong and therefore I am, then feel free to prove it.

 

[Aldebaran]

If you can prove that God is wrong and therefore I am, then feel free to prove it.

I didn't say God was wrong. I'm saying if you think the moon is a light emitting entity, take a look at it through a telescope sometime. Rocks, mountain ranges, craters, valleys, etc. do not emit light. Don't just turn a blind eye to it. Look at it!