Ygrene Imref
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Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
The father is named when it is said he "knew" her, followed by and she conceived---Adam was the father---there is no question. Angels and humans can not reproduce. They are not our kind and God laid that rule down at creation. Angels are all male---no female names are ever given them. They do not marry---Jesus made that clear. If you are thinking that God would have made angels with the ability to reproduce and then gave them no way to do so, that is quite cruel. Nothing states angels were ever given the instruction to be fruitful and multiply. The statement about the sons of God and daughters of men is simply, when you look into the wording--men who followed God, leaders, probably even spiritual leaders, who went after women who did not follow God. If they can't reproduce, why give them reproductive parts? God doesn't do the unnecessary. That they, at times, appear to look like men, in no way means they actually turn into men--they were created higher than us. Christ became lower than the angels when He was born.
Heb_2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
We can not reproduce with creatures that are not our kind. Even though evolutionists insist apes are our kind--no woman can have an apes baby, and they are supposedly closer to our kind than the angels.
Whoops, in order to get the context, let's look at next verses.
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Already, there is the motif of the goat and sheep. This is blatant on purpose. Cain is not the son of Adam. He is the impostor. And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Why would God need to put enmity between the seed of the serpent? Even the linguistic context of the Word of God is straight forward. This actually gave us our answer as to how Genesis 4:1-2 came about!
You can find even more evidence of this when we see how the Word of God lists the genealogy of men in the bible: they are identified by their fathers, just like the God the Hebrews follow are identified through the Patriarchs with whom He made covenants (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob.)
Consider the genealogy of Cain:
Show me one place in Genesis 4:17-31 where Cain's father is mentioned by name.
Consider the genealogy of Adam:
Even in Genesis 5, Adam's Father is named - The Most High God, as a true Son of God is one given by Him - made by Him. Everyone except Adam, Eve and the Word of God have only been sons of MAN.
Consider the genealogy of The Word of God:
Christ's genealogy is listed completely in Matthew 1:1-17 - and every one of His fathers was given by name.
Cain is the goat. His father from the apocrypha (Azazel) is the "scapegoat." It may be time to come to grips with the history and reality of the world in front of us. When the days of Noah happen again, how will you know if you don't believe what is explicitly and implicitly given in a simple canon? You would think this stuff going on now, and the things to come, are new. In fact, it is a cyclic iteration of the same things. Things we think are fantastical are simply matters of fact. As I said before, this is new just to Western Christianity, and religions in general.
Hercules, Achilles, Aeneas, Perseus, Helen of Troy - all of these (wo)men of renown - come from the same real history. And, part of that was the very real history that the human race has been under genetic assault since Adam for the purposes of polluting the bloodline of Christ. By this, the Christ cannot be born as a son of Man - as the prophecy demands. He would be [an] iron [man] mingled with clay. That was just one consequential purpose of the fall - perpetrated by the sons of God who chose to leave their first estate. In fact, in the apocrypha, these angels knew the consequences, but made a pact to go through with the defiling of the humans.
Truth is stranger than fiction, especially in spirituality.
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