Are you bound by the Mosaic Laws or Rabbinic Judaism?

[pat34lee]

The healthy thing does not make sense to me. If it concerned health then poisonous plants would have been included.

People generally know not to eat poisonous plants. Do you
know how many plants are poisonous? I don't, and the names
change from area to area, so it wouldn't help much without
adding pictures of the plants.

 

[pat34lee]

Why do you think so few know YHWH'S WORD concerning health ?
or
Why do so few teach about this, YHWH'S WORD concerning health ?

Because the lump it in with "The OT was made to punish Israel, and we
don't have to worry about any of it because Jesus fulfilled the law. Now
we can drop the parts of the law that we don't want to follow and keep
those that make us feel good."

 

[pat34lee]

Ok, so we've once again established that you can copy-paste serious typos (nun isn't a vowel). ;-)

None of what you benightedly plagiarized changes the fact that there are zero Aramaic languages where the first vowel of ישוע is a-class, and that the contemporary pronunciation of ישוע in Jesus' time is well established as "Yeshua."

For the sake of argument I'll assume all this is true.
What about 200 years before Jesus' time? 1000 years?
When the earliest parts of Torah were written? Back
when Joshua's name was spelled יְהוֹשׁ֣וּעַ

 

[ralliann]

People generally know not to eat poisonous plants. Do you
know how many plants are poisonous? I don't, and the names
change from area to area, so it wouldn't help much without
adding pictures of the plants.

Anyway, things grew out of the ground which were not food for man. That is what scripture appears to point to in that period. Animals were for sacrifice it appears. Clean and unclean animals were concerning alter Kosher.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Because the lump it in with "The OT was made to punish Israel, and we
don't have to worry about any of it because Jesus fulfilled the law. Now
we can drop the parts of the law that we don't want to follow and keep
those that make us feel good."

Actually,
I was thinking of Revelation 18 more. The enemy deceives the whole world (even religious teachers and leaders, politicians in every country, scientists, teachers and doctors and bankers and investors) ....
so what is good for health in reality, is taken from the people,
and what is destructive to health for everyone, is pushed on them.

"MY PEOPLE [even God's People] ----- P-E-R-I-S-H ------ for lack of knowledge (true knowledge, experiential knowledge) about health/ food/ drugs/ air/ pollution/ corruption

 

[pat34lee]

You say that everything is the same in the New Covenant. Here God says that it will not be the same. Thoughts?


Jeremiah 31:32
It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord.

It won't be the same. It is not in effect yet, and can't
go into effect until he returns. Once he takes his place
as king, there will no longer be need for denominations
because we will all see the truth directly from him.

 

[pat34lee]

"MY PEOPLE [even God's People] ----- P-E-R-I-S-H ------ for lack of knowledge (true knowledge, experiential knowledge) about health/ food/ drugs/ air/ pollution/ corruption

Even worse, many know, but choose the destructive and
poisonous because it's easier and cheaper. At least, until
it affects our health. I'm one that did that.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Even worse, many know, but choose the destructive and
poisonous because it's easier and cheaper. At least, until
it affects our health. I'm one that did that.

Yes, I was once for long time under the devil's care in society. I even STUDIED IT ! thinking it would be a good paying employment as a "CHRISTIAN"!!! I knew NOTHING at the time! NOTHING ! (and no one in any chruch had ever warned me as far as I can remember)
So great is the deception of all the world.(yes, even in chruches I attended - all kinds) ....

 

[ralliann]

It won't be the same. It is not in effect yet, and can't
go into effect until he returns. Once he takes his place
as king, there will no longer be need for denominations
because we will all see the truth directly from him.

 

[ralliann]

His priesthood is royal.....Of the order of Melchizedek. King and priest in one office.
The covenant made in his blood is indeed in effect

 

[CherubRam]

It won't be the same. It is not in effect yet, and can't go into effect until he returns. Once he takes his place
as king, there will no longer be need for denominations
because we will all see the truth directly from him.

Are you saying that the New Covenant is not in effect yet?

 

[CherubRam]

Did everyone run away from the question?

Are you saying that the New Covenant is not in effect yet?

 

[pat34lee]

His priesthood is royal.....Of the order of Melchizedek. King and priest in one office.
The covenant made in his blood is indeed in effect

Jeremiah 31:33
Hebrews 8:10
Hebrews 10:16
And so you know every law by heart? What is #49?

 

[pat34lee]

Are you saying that the New Covenant is not in effect yet?

Yes, I'm saying exactly that.
See my previous post just above this one.

 

[CherubRam]

Yes, I'm saying exactly that.
See my previous post just above this one.

Your logic does not add up.

Jeremiah 31:33
Hebrews 8:10
Hebrews 10:16
And so you know every law by heart? What is #49?

Romans 13:9
The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

 

[HARK!]

Your logic does not add up.

Romans 13:9
The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

A summary of the written law is not the detail of all of the law. It's a summary. That command is also not he foremost precept, By the way, that command, in itself, was part of the written law as given to Moshe.

(CLV) Lv 19:18
You shall not avenge nor shall you be resentful against the sons of your people. You will love your associate as yourself: I am Yahweh.

(CLV) Hb 10:28
Anyone -repudiating Moses' LAW is dying without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

 

[HARK!]

Are you saying that sacrifices and the Festivals remain as part of the New Covenant?

(CLV) Lk 16:17
Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of THE LAW to fall.

 

[tampasteve]

As a side note, I have been reading "The Way of Life: Didache: A New Translation and Messianic Jewish Commentary" and it is highly enlightening on what the early church would have taught for Gentiles to follow and be bound to. It is a First Fruits of Zion publication and well worth the $35 price tag. I believe it is full of valuable information on how we should practice MJ today.
The Way of Life, Book

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Yes, I'm saying exactly that.
See my previous post just above this one.

Would you like to see that it has already ? (getting to the root/ meanings/ history/ Scripturally/ if YHWH Permits)(or more simply, Revealed by YHWH to little ones trusting Him).....

 

[gadar perets]

Are you saying that sacrifices and the Festivals remain as part of the New Covenant?

(CLV) Lk 16:17
Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of THE LAW to fall.

Please elaborate on how the sacrifices are to be done today. If they are not to be done today because there is no temple, will believers be offering sin sacrifices when there is a temple? Also, do you believe the sacrifices will continue beyond the Millennium?