Is there a gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and verse 24?

[DavidPT]

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Interestingly, verse 23 mentions nothing about the unsaved as well. But if we look at verse 25 and 26 though, the unsaved are clearly in mind there.

1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Verse 26 indicates that the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


Obviously then, until Revelation 20:14 is fulfilled first, the fulfillment of 1 Corinthians 15:24 can't precede this. What needs to be detemined now, when is Revelation 20:14 meaning in relation to 1 Corinthians 15:23?

Let's consider Zechariah 14 for a moment.


Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.


This is clearly meaning after the 2nd coming has occurred, and that these left of the nations couldn't possibly be blessed saints who have put on immortality. They have to be mortals then. No mortal person can live forever. This tells us that death has not yet been destroyed at this point, thus 1 Corinthians 15:24 has not yet been fulfilled.

Isaiah 60:12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.


This too is meaning after 1 Corinthians 15:23 has already been fulfilled. This verse also proves death has not yet been destroyed at this point.


So based on the above alone, isn't this enough to prove there has to be a gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and verse 24? What gap might explain it then? How about the thousand years and satan's little season? Which BTW, reminds me of the following.

Isaiah 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

Let's do some comparing here.

that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth(Isaiah 24:21)

Compared with----


Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.-----the LORD shall punish the kings of the earth upon the earth(Isaiah 24:21)


Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit----the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high---And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison(Isaiah 24:21-22)

Obviously, if satan gets cast into the pit, so would his angels, thus these combined explain the 'they' in Isaiah 24:22.

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever----and after many days shall they be visited(Isaiah 24:22)


Per a position such as Amil, they have no logical answer for this part----and after many days shall they be visited(Isaiah 24:22).

So with this now added to what I already submitted before this, how can there not be a gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and verse 24, and this gap not be the thousand years and satan's little season?

 

[BABerean2]

So with this now added to what I already submitted before this, how can there not be a gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and verse 24, and this gap not be the thousand years and satan's little season?

Because you are adding a gap there to make your doctrine work and you are also ignoring the fact that the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order.

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[DavidPT]

Because you are adding a gap there to make your doctrine work and you are also ignoring the fact that the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order.

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Are there no Amils around here capable of critical thinking? All I see you all doing is presenting verses from the NT you feel are trump cards, without considering how other Scriptures have to fit in as well, such as the ones I brought up in the OP.

I like you and all, and I do respect you, but are you really this absent minded? How can you not recall that I have already indicated to you in the past that I know full well the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order? Yet you keep claiming I'm ignoring this fact, thus making me out to be a liar if I already indicated to you on more than one occasion in the past, that I agree the book of Revelation is not in chronological order.

 

[keras]

Because you are adding a gap there to make your doctrine work and you are also ignoring the fact that the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order. .

It is plain to anyone that Revelation does refer back at times to previously stated events.
One obvious one is Revelation 6:12-17, the Sixth Seal, and Revelation 14:17-20, the Winepress of God. They are both describing the same Judgement/ punishment of God.

DavidPT is quite correct that there is a 1000 year gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and 24.
There is only one time that immortality is given to those whose names are in the Book of Life; at the Great White Throne Judgement, when Death is abolished.

 

[DavidPT]

Because you are adding a gap there to make your doctrine work and you are also ignoring the fact that the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order.

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Does chronology only matter to you when it allegedly seems to support your position, and when it doesn't seem to support your position, chronology is now meaningless, unimportant?


Isaiah 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.


Do you or do you not agree, this happens at the end of this age and involves the 2nd coming? If you agree, what is the chronology of the above? Would it not be something like such?

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD when He comes back to the earth bodily, IOW the 2nd coming, He will at that time punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. And in that same day, this same period of time, they shall THEN be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, THEN after many days shall they be visited.

Being shut up in the prison couldn't possibly be meaning the lake of fire. Revelation 20:7 clearly proves that when it says---And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison----this prison referring to the pit and not the lake of fire. What one then needs to explain at this point, why as of the 2nd coming are some being shut up in the prison, rather than being cast into the lake of fire at that time, then after many days shall they be visited?

Since many Amils apparently typically conclude all of the events concerning the 2nd coming are fulfilled in a twinkling of an eye, how does one fit---after many days shall they be visited---with that conclusion? It doesn't, that's how.

 

[BABerean2]

If we could get rid of the following verses then maybe we could make your doctrine work...

2 Timothy 4:1

Matthew 25:31-46

Revelation 11:15, Revelation 11:18

John 5:24, John 5:27-30

2 Thessalonians 1:7-10

Then you still have the problem of Christ, who defeated sin and death at Calvary, officiating funeral services for dead mortals during your millennium.

Nobody has as of yet told us where the souls of these dead mortals goes when they die during the millennium, since Christ is on earth...

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[LastSeven]

Ah. Nothing like a good old "insert gap here" theory to make a doctrine work. If you don't like what the scriptures are telling you. Insert a gap! Problem solved.

 

[DavidPT]

Ah. Nothing like a good old "insert gap here" theory to make a doctrine work. If you don't like what the scriptures are telling you. Insert a gap! Problem solved.

This sounds like a personal opinion rather than someone actually debunking anything. A good place to start debunking would be with Isaiah 24:21-22 and show how that doesn't fit Premil, but fits Amil instead.

 

[DavidPT]

If we could get rid of the following verses then maybe we could make your doctrine work...

2 Timothy 4:1

Matthew 25:31-46

Revelation 11:15, Revelation 11:18

John 5:24, John 5:27-30

2 Thessalonians 1:7-10

Then you still have the problem of Christ, who defeated sin and death at Calvary, officiating funeral services for dead mortals during your millennium.

Nobody has as of yet told us where the souls of these dead mortals goes when they die during the millennium, since Christ is on earth...

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Who says anyone necessarily dies during the millennium?

Is it too much to ask for you to explain to me how Isaiah 24:21-22 works with Amil doctrine? Unlike Amils, I'm not closed minded about things. I'm willing to hear and consider what you have to say on this matter. Isaiah 24:21-22 has to fit somewhere, right? and they shall be shut up in the pit, and after many days they shall be visited----that has to fit somewhere, right?

 

[LastSeven]

This sounds like a personal opinion rather than someone actually debunking anything. A good place to start debunking would be with Isaiah 24:21-22 and show how that doesn't fit Premil, but fits Amil instead.

I guess you're right. It is my personal opinion that we should not insert gaps into scripture, even if it doesn't say what we think it should say without the gap. Just my personal opinion.

If 1 Corinthians 15 didn't make sense or didn't jive with the rest of scripture then I could understand you may want to look for a reason, but it does jive. So why insert a gap?

 

[Truth7t7]

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Interestingly, verse 23 mentions nothing about the unsaved as well. But if we look at verse 25 and 26 though, the unsaved are clearly in mind there.

1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Verse 26 indicates that the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


Obviously then, until Revelation 20:14 is fulfilled first, the fulfillment of 1 Corinthians 15:24 can't precede this. What needs to be detemined now, when is Revelation 20:14 meaning in relation to 1 Corinthians 15:23?

Let's consider Zechariah 14 for a moment.


Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.


This is clearly meaning after the 2nd coming has occurred, and that these left of the nations couldn't possibly be blessed saints who have put on immortality. They have to be mortals then. No mortal person can live forever. This tells us that death has not yet been destroyed at this point, thus 1 Corinthians 15:24 has not yet been fulfilled.

Isaiah 60:12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.


This too is meaning after 1 Corinthians 15:23 has already been fulfilled. This verse also proves death has not yet been destroyed at this point.


So based on the above alone, isn't this enough to prove there has to be a gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and verse 24? What gap might explain it then? How about the thousand years and satan's little season? Which BTW, reminds me of the following.

Isaiah 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

Let's do some comparing here.

that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth(Isaiah 24:21)

Compared with----


Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.-----the LORD shall punish the kings of the earth upon the earth(Isaiah 24:21)


Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit----the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high---And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison(Isaiah 24:21-22)

Obviously, if satan gets cast into the pit, so would his angels, thus these combined explain the 'they' in Isaiah 24:22.

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever----and after many days shall they be visited(Isaiah 24:22)


Per a position such as Amil, they have no logical answer for this part----and after many days shall they be visited(Isaiah 24:22).

So with this now added to what I already submitted before this, how can there not be a gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and verse 24, and this gap not be the thousand years and satan's little season?

You use 1 Corinthians 15:23-24 as a proof text, then you run around scripture trying to figure out when the last enemy death is destroyed?

1 Corinthians 15:52-54 clearly teaches at the second advent the "Last Trump" and the resurrection to immortality take place, verse 54 clearly states at this event "Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory"

Dave you disregard the clear teaching of scripture, why?

P.S. There Is No 1000 Year Gap.

 

[BABerean2]

Who says anyone necessarily dies during the millennium?

Is it too much to ask for you to explain to me how Isaiah 24:21-22 works with Amil doctrine? Unlike Amils, I'm not closed minded about things. I'm willing to hear and consider what you have to say on this matter. Isaiah 24:21-22 has to fit somewhere, right? and they shall be shut up in the pit, and after many days they shall be visited----that has to fit somewhere, right?

Right...

Isa 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

Isa 24:22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

Isa 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.


For some reason you left out Isa 24:23.

They are shut up in the pit for many days and then after we have the same signs in the sun and moon found in the Olivet Discourse, which occur at the Second Coming of Christ.


Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.




Based on the verses below they are already in chains reserved for the day of judgment.

2Pe_2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;


Jud_1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.



Since the New Testament is the final revelation, we should use it as our guide to interpreting the Old Testament, instead of vice-versa.

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[DavidPT]

Right...

Isa 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

Isa 24:22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

Isa 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.


For some reason you left out Isa 24:23.

They are shut up in the pit for many days and then after we have the same signs in the sun and moon found in the Olivet Discourse, which occur at the Second Coming of Christ.


Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.




Based on the verses below they are already in chains reserved for the day of judgment.

2Pe_2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;


Jud_1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.



Since the New Testament is the final revelation, we should use it as our guide to interpreting the Old Testament, instead of vice-versa.

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Your interpretation is confusing and seems chronologically out of order. Doesn't verse 21 indicate He shall punish the kings of the earth in that day? Doesn't Revelation 19 indicate that occurs once Christ has returned? Yet you are providing passages having to do with events prior to the 2nd coming.

The way Isaiah 24:21-22 reads to me is like such. There are two punishments. The first punishment is when they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison. The 2nd punishment, the final punishment, is when after many days shall they be visited. If the punishment of the kings of the earth occur once Christ has bodily returned, then so must the punishment
of the high ones that are on high, this has to take place at that time, too. Which results in they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison.

Isaiah 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Notice that this verse starts with a 'Then'. This tells us once this first phase of the punishment has taken place, then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously. He for sure would not be doing that after the tribulation of those days where the sun and moon are dark. During that time His wrath would be being unleashed via the vials in Revelation 16. He has to physically return first before verse 23 above can be fulfilled.

 

[DavidPT]

You use 1 Corinthians 15:23-24 as a proof text, then you run around scripture trying to figure out when the last enemy death is destroyed?

1 Corinthians 15:52-54 clearly teaches at the second advent the "Last Trump" and the resurrection to immortality take place, verse 54 clearly states at this event "Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory"

Dave you disregard the clear teaching of scripture, why?

P.S. There Is No 1000 Year Gap.

You apparently don't have a good grasp on how context works. I have already been through 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 in other posts in other threads. In context, death is only swallowed up in victory for the saved. Not the unsaved as well. There is no victory for anyone that's going to be cast into the lake of fire. That's not a blessed event for them when that time comes.

 

[Truth7t7]

You apparently don't have a good grasp on how context works. I have already been through 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 in other posts in other threads. In context, death is only swallowed up in victory for the saved. Not the unsaved as well. There is no victory for anyone that's going to be cast into the lake of fire. That's not a blessed event for them when that time comes.

Dave your whole goal is to put a 1000 year gap between verse 23-24?

it aint there Dave, Those left of the nations in Zechariah 14 are the righteous.

verses 6-7cleary shows eternal light.

verse 8 eternal river of life, also in Revelation 22:1-5

verse 12 the last day judgment by fire 2 peter 3:10-13

Your back at your three groups again, trying desparately to shape the goats in Matthew 25 into the intermediate group that isnt in the scripture.

 

[BABerean2]

Your interpretation is confusing and seems chronologically out of order. Doesn't verse 21 indicate He shall punish the kings of the earth in that day? Doesn't Revelation 19 indicate that occurs once Christ has returned? Yet you are providing passages having to do with events prior to the 2nd coming.

Why are you attempting to ignore 2 Peter 2:4 ?

If I tell you that I will punish you on the day I see you, and then tell you that I will see you next Thursday, then there is a perfect chronology.

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[LastSeven]

You apparently don't have a good grasp on how context works. I have already been through 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 in other posts in other threads. In context, death is only swallowed up in victory for the saved. Not the unsaved as well. There is no victory for anyone that's going to be cast into the lake of fire. That's not a blessed event for them when that time comes.

How can you say that when scripture says the opposite?

Acts 24:15
and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

 

[DavidPT]

Why are you attempting to ignore 2 Peter 2:4 ?

If I tell you that I will punish you on the day I see you, and then tell you that I will see you next Thursday, then there is a perfect chronology.

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I think you are still missing my point.

Isaiah 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


If this part----And it shall come to pass in that day that the LORD shall punish the kings of the earth upon the earth--is referring to Revelation 19:17-21, that then gives us the timing of this other part as well----And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high. And the timing is clearly the bodily 2nd coming, unless one wants to dispute Revelation 19:17-21 and claim that Christ isn't actually bodily present anywhere in those verses, IOW this is not the 2nd coming.

It seems unreasonable to me that the part about the kings of the earth getting punished requires the 2nd coming, but that the part about punishing the host of the high ones that are on high, doesn't.

Isaiah 24:22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

This can't be meaning before they are punished, but after they are punished. No one could possibly think being shut up in a prison is not a form of punishment.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high---And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison(the punishment at that time)---and after many days shall they be visited.(the final punishment). Therefore, in that day, it is meaning a long period of time which begins with the 2nd coming and ends with them being visited after many days. That long period of time consisting of a thousand years followed by satan's little season.

 

[iamlamad]

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Interestingly, verse 23 mentions nothing about the unsaved as well. But if we look at verse 25 and 26 though, the unsaved are clearly in mind there.

1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Verse 26 indicates that the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


Obviously then, until Revelation 20:14 is fulfilled first, the fulfillment of 1 Corinthians 15:24 can't precede this. What needs to be detemined now, when is Revelation 20:14 meaning in relation to 1 Corinthians 15:23?

Let's consider Zechariah 14 for a moment.


Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.


This is clearly meaning after the 2nd coming has occurred, and that these left of the nations couldn't possibly be blessed saints who have put on immortality. They have to be mortals then. No mortal person can live forever. This tells us that death has not yet been destroyed at this point, thus 1 Corinthians 15:24 has not yet been fulfilled.

Isaiah 60:12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.


This too is meaning after 1 Corinthians 15:23 has already been fulfilled. This verse also proves death has not yet been destroyed at this point.


So based on the above alone, isn't this enough to prove there has to be a gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and verse 24? What gap might explain it then? How about the thousand years and satan's little season? Which BTW, reminds me of the following.

Isaiah 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

Let's do some comparing here.

that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth(Isaiah 24:21)

Compared with----


Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.-----the LORD shall punish the kings of the earth upon the earth(Isaiah 24:21)


Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit----the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high---And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison(Isaiah 24:21-22)

Obviously, if satan gets cast into the pit, so would his angels, thus these combined explain the 'they' in Isaiah 24:22.

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever----and after many days shall they be visited(Isaiah 24:22)


Per a position such as Amil, they have no logical answer for this part----and after many days shall they be visited(Isaiah 24:22).

So with this now added to what I already submitted before this, how can there not be a gap between 1 Corinthians 15:23 and verse 24, and this gap not be the thousand years and satan's little season?

Of course there is a gap: the "end" does not come at the pretrib rapture! Neither does "the end" come at the 7th vial that ends the 70th week. neither is there an "end" with nothing following at the end of the 1000 year reign.

 

[DavidPT]

Those left of the nations in Zechariah 14 are the righteous.

You want us to believe that the righteous will be under the threat of plagues throughout all eternity if they refuse to keep the feast of tabernacles? What righteous person remaining after Christ has returned could possibly have a desire to make themselves enemies of God by not doing what He has commanded? Seriously.