The Bible explains that the Hebrew were black.

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Song of Solomon 1:5 I am dark but beautiful, O women of Jerusalem--dark as the tents of Kedar, dark as the curtains of Solomon's tents.
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Lamentations 5:10 Our skin was black like an oven...
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Lamentation 4:8 Now their faces are blacker than coal. No one recognizes them in the streets.

Job 30:30 My skin is black on me,

The Roman depicted the Hebrew as black (historical evidence)

Israelites: Captives of the Assyrians
From the palace of Sennacherib, approx. 680 b.c.e. (ref. 2kings 18:13-14).

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Jesus picture in the Roman catacomb, Jesus is black
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Images of the True Israelites

It doesnt matter whether Jesus is black or white or yellow, this is just about history.
 
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Song of Solomon 1:5 I am dark but beautiful, O women of Jerusalem--dark as the tents of Kedar, dark as the curtains of Solomon's tents.
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Lamentations 5:10 Our skin was black like an oven...
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Lamentation 4:8 Now their faces are blacker than coal. No one recognizes them in the streets.

Job 30:30 My skin is black on me,

The Roman depicted the Hebrew as black (historical evidence)

Israelites: Captives of the Assyrians
From the palace of Sennacherib, approx. 680 b.c.e. (ref. 2kings 18:13-14).

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Jesus picture in the Roman catacomb, Jesus is black
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LINK:
Images of the True Israelites

It doesnt matter whether Jesus is black or white or yellow, this is just about history.
Not surprised at all brother. But as you mentioned, the risen Lord is brighter than the sun as we shall all be. Hallelujah!
 
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It doesnt matter whether Jesus is black or white or yellow, this is just about history.
If it actually WERE about history, this silly theory would not be still alive and kicking. History doesn't give it any credence.
 
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I quoted verses from the Bible, isnt that credible ?
But you gave them your own interpretation! I wasn't challenging the Bible account, just the mistaken theory about what those verses were telling us. Besides which, a lot of your post is not actually focused on the Bible but, rather, with artistic representations of some Biblical event as imagined by a human or, in one case, with a photograph.
 
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That's some pretty poor exegesis, friendo.

Song of Solomon 1:5 I am dark but beautiful, O women of Jerusalem--dark as the tents of Kedar, dark as the curtains of Solomon's tents.

Here the author is talking to the "women of Jerusalem." Why would he have to say that his skin was dark if everyone's skin was dark?

If you were to read the next verse, you would find out why:

"6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept."

It looks from here that he's a bit embarrassed about his sunburned skin.

Lamentations 5:10 Our skin was black like an oven...

Now, now, you can't get away with quoting half a verse and leaving out the half that says that their skin was black because of unusual circumstances.

Lamentation 4:8 Now their faces are blacker than coal. No one recognizes them in the streets.

If you would have been so thorough as to read the rest of Lamentations 4, you would have found that their black skin was brought up as an example of how sick they were. In fact, if you had read Lamentations 4, you would have even found this:

"7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:"

Job 30:30 My skin is black on me,

Again, you have ignored the context and removed the half of the verse that goes against your point.

As for the painting, I can't find any sources that refer to it as the earliest depiction of Jesus, and your "treatment" of scripture would lead me to believe that that part was misleading as well.
 
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Here the author is talking to the "women of Jerusalem." Why would he have to say that his skin was dark if everyone's skin was dark?

Exactly. Every example indicates that 'black' was not their natural color.
 
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Exactly. Every example indicates that 'black' was not their natural color.

Exodus 4:6 Then the LORD said, "Put your hand inside your cloak." So Moses put his hand into his cloak, and when he took it out, the skin was leprous --it had become as white as snow.

If Moses skin was white it could not change into white as snow.
 
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Exodus 4:6 Then the LORD said, "Put your hand inside your cloak." So Moses put his hand into his cloak, and when he took it out, the skin was leprous --it had become as white as snow.

If Moses skin was white it could not change into white as snow.

Moses skin wasn't "white as snow", especially his hands which would have been deeply suntanned. My skin is pinkish, but one of my fingertips sometimes turns 'snow white' as I have a blood circulation problem with it.
 
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I remember this young woman (who was very nice) told me how i had a strange dark tan to my skin like the hebrews and i am black..lol i still dont know why she told me that though but thats what she said..then again i do like being in the sun too
 
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Exactly. Every example indicates that 'black' was not their natural color.
Does not sound to me that dark skin was normal:

Song of Solomon 1:5
“I am black but lovely,
O daughters of Jerusalem,
Like the tents of Kedar,
Like the curtains of Solomon.
6 “Do not stare at me because I am swarthy,
For the sun has burned me.
My mother’s sons were angry with me;
They made me caretaker of the vineyards,
But I have not taken care of my own vineyard.​
 
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If it actually WERE about history, this silly theory would not be still alive and kicking. History doesn't give it any credence.
Right. More fantasizing is all it is. We could also say that all Hebrews were Redskins. After all Adam was red (but not a Communist).:smile:
 
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you wouldn't be able to conclude the people of Israel being black from these verses as all the references to blackness have to do with sunburn. it certainly doesn't exclude them as being people of melanin however.

jeremiah 13:23 would simply indicate the Ethiopians as being very dark skinned people. this wouldn't make the Israelites white by contrast though. moses got flack for marrying a Cushite woman. ancient cush being part of Africa.

Jesus was a direct descendant from the Israelite tribes, a jew, and the only people at that time who would have been Caucasian were romans and greeks of which Jesus was neither. the apostle Paul was also a jew and was mistaken for being an Egyptian(acts 21:37-39). Egypt is in Africa.

esau was born hairy and with red skin. if it were true that the original Israelites were Caucasian wouldn't Jacob also have red skin? the red skin here would refer to a melanin skintone that would be lighter than one with dark skin. those bible references to the skin being made dark by the sunlight would very well refer to fairly melanated people who had become darker. I had such a thing happen to me when I lived in texas for 3rd and 4th grade of being a bit darker when I was there. tan skin and dark skin aren't the same thing.

I don't recall Caucasians as having dreadlocks(numbers 6:5, judges 16:13, song of Solomon 5:2, 11, 7:5, Ezekiel 8:3). Caucasians don't naturally grow dreadlocks and I don't recall dreadlocks as being a customary hairstyle in ancient Rome or Greece. Caucasian hair is always straight unless they do something to their hair. left to it's own devices it becomes stringy with split ends. it definitely doesn't dread. I don't even recall arabs as having dreadlocks or it being a common style of hair for them. the only people who have that style of hair are people of African descent.(yes, i'm aware of Europeans who, through artificial means, have dreads.)

then there's the curses of Deuteronomy 28:15-68 which, if you read the contents, fit the plight of black people like a glove. some would point to the jewish Europeans and the holocaust but there are obvious problems with that regarding their practice.

i'd say there's good evidence for the biblical jews being black.
 
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Right. More fantasizing is all it is. We could also say that all Hebrews were Redskins. After all Adam was red (but not a Communist).:smile:

In old times, "ruddy" meant the darker skin tones [minus black].
Also in the old days, Hebrews were called "olive-toned."
Created history cannot enoble a people to which it does not pertain.

How likely is it that a black man wrote the following verse?

Jeremiah 13:23 "Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? [then] may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil."
 
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