The Beast

[Revealing Times]

The seventy weeks were to tell the Jews of the coming of the Messiah and His ministry 69 weeks to his coming as Prince Messiah which was fulfilled at his Baptism. The disciples recognised this and Jesus said the time was fulfilled.

Jesus was the one to confirm THE covenant.

• Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

• Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

However can Antichrist confirm The covenant? He is not Christ but a pseudo Christ.

For starters, you do realize the Hebrew Word Covenant only means an AGREEMENT right? Its not a HOLY COVENANT unless its an AGREEMENT between God and men. This Covenant (AGREEMENT) is the FAKE PEACE, its just like any Agreement we might have now. The SALT is an AGREEMENT between Russia and the USA on Arms. In Old Hebrew it would be a Covenant between Russia and the USA (Agreement). You and others take the word "Covenant" to mean HOLY COVENANT, and that is just not the case. Holy Covenant means and agreement between God and man, Covenant is just an agreement between men.

The 70 Weeks are all about Israel being PUNISHED for a set amount of time, and before this punishment ends Israel will be driven to REPENT.

Dan. 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince (Jesus) of princes; but he shall be broken without hand (By the Holy Spirit).

In Rev. 6 the Second Red Horse TAKES AWAY PEACE from the earth, its not really described as a Horse of war, but as a Horse that takes the PEACE AWAY, it a significant difference, John/Jesus wantes us to know there was a FAKE PEACE that was used to deceive the masses, just like Dan. 8:25 says !!

69 Weeks unto his DEATH !! Stop changing the facts brother, he was CUT OFF after 69 Weeks. Jacobs Troubles is ONE WEEK. It happens after the Rapture, the Jewish Bride and Groom always spend 7 Days (One week or Seven Years) in the Fathers Bridal Suite. Thus the Bride marries the Lamb in Heaven and stays there for Seven Years, then returns with Jesus.

Jesus did not say the 70th Week was fulfilled. He was speaking of himself fulfilling everything prophesied about Him when he said it is finished, the 70th Week was/is not about Jesus until the 7th Vial return.

Those two scriptures have NOTHING to do with the 70 Week prophecy.

 

[David Kent]

Everyone but you and a few like you understands this is the Anti-Christ. Let me explain this in full, I thought everyone knew this so I skipped over it.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks {69 Weeks in total} the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks(This tells us there are THREE SEPARATE Prophecies 7x7, 7x62 AND A 7x1) shall Messiah be cut off (So Jesus is Sacrificed after the 62x7 prophecy), but not for himself (For our Sins): and the people(Romans) of the prince (Anti-Christ arises OUT OF THE FOURTH BEAST) that shall come(2000 YEARS LATER) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he(Anti-Christ....LOOK ABOVE....SEE WHY HE IS THE Anti-Christ !!) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week {Jacobs Troubles is ONE WEEK or 7 Years} and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

So all you have yo do is to STUDY, is right there in front of you brother.

Why do you think there Prophecy had a 7x7, 62x7 ans 1x7? Because its THREE DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME !! The last week is that ONE WEEK. If you can't understand the KJV you need to switch to anther bible, some people just can't get the KJV, or can't understand the way they wrote.

Well i cannot agree with your interpretation, dear Brother. Firstly the Messaih, was cut off after the 6 + 7 weeks (69) As he was anointed at His Baptism, he must have been cut off in the middle of the 70th week. After 69 is 70, so if he was cut off after 69 weeks it must have been in the 70th week, and we read that in the midst of the week so it was He who caused the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, as that was also in the midst of the week. it must have been the Messiah who caused it. No Antichrist. here whatsoever, the people of the prince who was to come were the Romans and they did destroy the temple against his (Titus) orders. All fulfilled to the letter literally..

 

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Well i cannot agree with your interpretation, dear Brother. Firstly the Messaih, was cut off after the 6 + 7 weeks (69) As he was anointed at His Baptism, he must have been cut off in the middle of the 70th week. After 69 is 70, so if he was cut off after 69 weeks it must have been in the 70th week, and we read that in the midst of the week so it was He who caused the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, as that was also in the midst of the week. it must have been the Messiah who caused it. No Antichrist. here whatsoever, the people of the prince who was to come were the Romans and they did destroy the temple against his (Titus) orders. All fulfilled to the letter literally..

No, after 69 weeks means he was cut off or Sacrificed after 483 years x 360 days = 173880 so you trying to add a 1/2 year is just plain wrong, we can not change the scripture to fit what we want it to be. In your way of thinking it could be 2009 because that was AFTER 69 weeks, that's a preposterous way to look at scriptures brother. You have it in your mind that that's what it means an no amount of logic can change your thought process it seems thus you miss the whole meaning of the passage.

Go read my post in this thread today where I explain what the 2300 days mean. Its not 2300 days but in essence it is 1150 days, there is only 7 or 8 posts there so its easy to find............No future US role in peace process ! (reviewing Daniel Peace Deal )

There are people that push 2300 years coming off of a wrong understanding of what the 2300 means, its easy to go off the rails. We have to get it right. The Daniel understanding is about ISRAEL REPENTING before the 70 weeks end. The Prophecy is not specifically about Jesus dying and thus ending Israel's sin, Israels sin has remained and they will remain blinded IN PART until the time of the Gentiles (Church Age) has come full. (Rapture) The prophecy is about just what Gabriel said, Jerusalem and its inhabitants.

The Agreement is between the Anti-Christ and MANY for one week, the LAST WEEK, the 70th Week, Jacobs Trouble. Why do you think all of Revelation is built around a 7 year timeline? Why do you think that 1260 Days, 42 Months, a time, times and a 1/2 time plays such a prominent role in the end times?

MIDDLE OF THE WEEK !! 1260, 42 Months, Time, Times and 1/2 time are all the same !!

The Anti-Christ comes to power via a FAKE/FALSE PEACE, he gains the trust of the Israelis and Arabs, he then reneges on all of his promises and attacks them all at once in the MIDDLE OF THE WEEK............The Beast rules for 42 MONTHS..........Israel FLEES for 1260 Days.

This is simple logic man. You guys make it complex by introducing things that are just not factual.

As per the "Sacrifice and Oblation" read the other thread I linked, that is what its about.

The prince to come is the Anti-Christ.

 

[David Kent]

No, after 69 weeks means he was cut off or Sacrificed after 483 years x 360 days = 173880 so you trying to add a 1/2 year is just plain wrong, we can not change the scripture t fit what we want it to be. In your way of thinking it could be 2009 because that was AFTER 69 weeks, that a preposterous way to look at scriptures brother. You have it in your mind that that's what it means an no amount of logic can change your thought process it seems thus you miss the whole meaning of the passage.

Go read my post in this thread today where I explain what the 2300 days mean. Its not 2300 days but in essence it is 1150 days, there is only 7 or 8 posts there so its easy to find............No future US role in peace process ! (reviewing Daniel Peace Deal )

There are people that push 2300 years coming off of a wrong understanding of what the 2300 means, its easy to go off the rails. We have to get it right. The Daniel understanding is about ISRAEL REPENTING before the 70 weeks end. The Prophecy is not specifically about Jesus dying and thus ending Israel's sin, Israels sin has remained and they will remain blinded IN PART until the time of the Gentiles (Church Age) has come full. (Rapture) The prophecy is about just what Gabriel said, Jerusalem and its inhabitants.

The Agreement is between the Anti-Christ and MANY for one week, the LAST WEEK, the 70th Week, Jacobs Trouble. Why do you think all of Revelation is built around a 7 year timeline? Why do you think that 1260 Days, 42 Months, a time, times and a 1/2 time plays such a prominent role in the end times?

MIDDLE OF THE WEEK !! 1260, 42 Months, Time, Times and 1/2 time are all the same !!

The Anti-Christ comes to power via a FAKE/FALSE PEACE, he gains the trust of the Israelis and Arabs, he then reneges on all of his promises and attacks them all at once in the MIDDLE OF THE WEEK............The Beast rules for 42 MONTHS..........Israel FLEES for 1260 Days.

This is simple logic man. You guys make it complex by introducing things that are just not factual.

As per the "Sacrifice and Oblation" read the other thread I linked, that is what its about.

The prince to come is the Anti-Christ.

It is not logic. It is adding to scripture. No mention of Antichrist so that is adding. I gave a timeline, 7 weeks 49 years for the temple to be completed, from the Cyrus published God's decree, then 69 weeks till the anointing of Jesus at his baptism, then 3½ weeks of his ministry till he was cut off. halfway through the seventy weeks. The ECF recognised that, so they were left with 3½ weeks which they didn't know what to do with, however the answer is that the covenant ministry continued to be Jews till the conversion of Cornelius, when it was no longer a fully Jewish covenant but was open to all believers.

That is the logical and literal understanding.

Another thing is that the prince is not the subject of that verse, his people are. The prince does nothing in that prophecy, but to come. You have added a new character to the prophecy who does a number of things which are not in scripture.

The people of the price were to destroy the temple and sanctuary, they did and it is not there now. Or are you blind?

You play fast and loose with scripture to fit your Darbyite ideas.

Look at the scripture carefully.

• Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

1stly. he could not be cut off in 2000. I have heard that nonsense before. He was cut off after 69 weeks, what comes after 69? 70 of course. He was cut off in the 70th week, in the midst of the week, 3½ years after his baptism. In the midst of a prophetic week and also of the literal week.

2ndly.

• 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The next thing you get wrong is that the prince who you say is still in the future, will carry out the events in verse 7, WRONG. As the prince is not the subject, the he must refer back to the last person mentioned, Messiah, the prince.

• Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

What promises could they be but the covenant. Christ confirmed the covenant.

 

[David Kent]

Also

• Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

 

[Revealing Times]

It is not logic.

log·ic
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noun

1. 1.
   reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.

It is adding to scripture. No mention of Antichrist so that is adding.

No, you add to scripture in many instances, I never would do that, you not understanding the passage doesn't mean others are adding, as a matter of fact well over 90 percent of Christendom sees that passage as the Anti-Christ because that is who it is.

I gave a timeline, 7 weeks 49 years for the temple to be completed, from the Cyrus published God's decree, then 69 weeks till the anointing of Jesus at his baptism, then 3½ weeks of his ministry till he was cut off. halfway through the seventy weeks. The ECF recognised that, so they were left with 3½ weeks which they didn't know what to do with, however the answer is that the covenant ministry continued to be Jews till the conversion of Cornelius, when it was no longer a fully Jewish covenant but was open to all believers.

That is the logical and literal understanding.

Its given in THREE TIMELINES and you can't grasp its about three time periods !! Have you ever really pondered why its given as three prophecies? A 49 years Prophecy, a 434 year prophecy and a 7 year prophecy.

So its not 69 Weeks per se, and that is why the Prophecy states its a 7 week AND and 62 week, or in other words BOTH PROPHECIES have to come to pass, then a THIRD PROPHECY has to come to pass.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Nowhere does it say or imply these prophetic events have to be back to back, that is coming from you and others in your ilk, sorry, its just not factual, else it would have just been a 70 Week Event Prophecy. I think the first 69 weeks are back to back, but its still separate prophecies,we had 7x7 which is the first marker, the wall/city of Jerusalem is rebuilt, from Cyrus' order until completion. Then it was 62 weeks or 334 years until Messiah was CUT OFF/Killed/Sacrificed.

The Church Age is thus instituted, God sees Israel as Dead Men's Bones just like Ezekiel Prophesied. He planed all along on reviving those Dead Men's Bones and He did just that in 1948.But the final Week is not about the time period from 1948 until the Rapture, that is still the "Time of the Gentiles" the FINAL WEEK will not start until the Rapture happens and Israel enters into a Peace Plan with the European Anti-Christ, then in the MIDDLE OF THE WEEK, he reneges on all of his bogus promises.

Daniel 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

In Rev. ch. 6 the Red Horse TAKES PEACE from the earth, inferring he came to power via PEACE.

So the STREET and the WALL she be built even in troubled times says Dan. 9:25, then the 62 weeks prophecy comes to pass. AND the Final WEEK........7 YEARS, still awaits.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (NOT after 62 and 1/2 weeks NOT 2009 either !! ), but not for himself: and the people (Romans FOURTH BEAST) of the prince that shall come (Anti-Christ some 2000 odd years later = SHALL COME) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary (70 AD Event); and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he (SAME Anti-Christ) shall confirm the covenant (AGREEMENT)with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (He stops Israel from Worshiping Jesus since they have already REPENTED), and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (The ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IS SET UP)

Some people just can't understand the Old English of the KJV, so I don't understand why they don't try other versions I understand the KJV fine but I admit it took much practice and study.

The 70 Weeks of Years (HCSB......Holman version)

Daniel 9:20 While I was speaking, praying, confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my petition before Yahweh my God concerning the holy mountain of my God— 21 while I was praying, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the first vision, came to me in my extreme weariness, about the time of the evening offering. 22 He gave me this explanation: “Daniel, I’ve come now to give you understanding. 23 At the beginning of your petitions an answer went out, and I have come to give it, for you are treasured by God. So consider the message and understand the vision:

24 Seventy weeks are decreed
about your people and your holy city— (Not about Jesus PER SE)
to bring the rebellion to an end, ( Israel is still in REBELLION !! )
to put a stop to sin, ( Israels sin REMAINS )
to wipe away iniquity, ( Israels INIQUITY REMAINS )
to bring in everlasting righteousness,
to seal up vision and prophecy,
and to anoint the most holy place.

25 Know and understand this:
From the issuing of the decree
to restore and rebuild Jerusalem
until Messiah the Prince
will be seven weeks and 62 weeks.
It will be rebuilt with a plaza and a moat,
but in difficult times.

26 After those 62 weeks
the Messiah will be cut off ( Not after 62 1/2 weeks !! )
and will have nothing.
The people (Romans) of the coming prince (Anti-Christ)
will destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end will come with a flood,
and until the end there will be war;
desolations are decreed.

27 He will make a firm covenant
with many for one week, (HELLO there is ONE WEEK LEFT !! 42 Months/1260..)
but in the middle of the week (42 Months...1260...time, times and 1/2 time)
he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering.
And the abomination of desolation
will be on a wing of the temple
until the decreed destruction
is poured out on the desolator.”

The Anti-Christ places an IMAGE of himself in a WING of the Temple !!

Another thing is that the prince is not the subject of that verse, his people are. The prince does nothing in that prophecy, but to come. You have added a new character to the prophecy who does a number of things which are not in scripture.

The PRINCE that is to come is spoken of in verse 27. Remember, God is giving a Prophecy about Israel, Jerusalem and its inhabitants unto Daniel so that he may understand Jeremiahs prophetic uttering's.

Thus he tells him about the Wall being Built (7x7) Jesus dying (62x7 plus the 7x7) and about Israel making a PEACE DEAL with the Anti-Christ/Assyrian/Man of Sin/Little Horn in the Final Week of Israels Repentance Decree. I don't think Daniel is ever told there will be a 2000 some odd year Church Age, why would he be told that? The Prophecy is about ISRAEL....Thus the 2000 year SKIP, Israel is as Dead Men's Bones !! For 2000 years.

42 Months.......Middle of the WEEK......1260 Days........Time, times and 1/2 time.

Why do you think everything in Revelation/END TIMES is designed around a HALF A WEEK ? And this prince to come reneges on his deal in the MIDDLE OF THE WEEK.

The people of the price were to destroy the temple and sanctuary, they did and it is not there now. Or are you blind?

That is what I stated, the people (ROMANS) of the PRINCE TO COME (End Time PEACE MAKER, the Anti-Christ that makes a SEVEN YEAR PEACE DEAL). Where does the Anti-Christ arise from? The FOURTH BEAST !! Well of course he does. (ROME). He arises in the LATTER TIME from the Fourth Beast by way of one of the Four Generals.......Greece is where he HAS TO BE BORN. Greece is in the European Union. Nothing else fits. I have a blog on this.

You play fast and loose with scripture to fit your Darbyite ideas.

90 percent of Christendom agree with me on this.

Look at the scripture carefully.

• Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

1stly. he could not be cut off in 2000. I have heard that nonsense before. He was cut off after 69 weeks, what comes after 69? 70 of course. He was cut off in the 70th week, in the midst of the week, 3½ years after his baptism. In the midst of a prophetic week and also of the literal week.

69 WEEKS.............NOT 69 1/2 WEEKS !! There is a week left.

2ndly.

• 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The next thing you get wrong is that the prince who you say is still in the future, will carry out the events in verse 7, WRONG. As the prince is not the subject, the he must refer back to the last person mentioned, Messiah, the prince.

Wrong, the prince that is TO COME is the Anti-Christ in verse 26. Therefore the HE in verse 27 refers to the Anti-Christ also.

• Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

What promises could they be but the covenant. Christ confirmed the covenant.

Wrong, Abraham and God confirmed the Covenant via the PROMISE..........

P. S. this applies to post 85 also. Its the PROMISE. Abraham was counted as Righteous because he BELIEVED GOD !! Via the PROMISE !!

 

[David Kent]

The Anti-Christ places an IMAGE of himself in a WING of the Temple !!

Can you show me a scripture that says that? No of course you can't because it is not there.

That is what I stated, the people (ROMANS) of the PRINCE TO COME (End Time PEACE MAKER, the Anti-Christ that makes a SEVEN YEAR PEACE DEAL). Where does the Anti-Christ arise from? The FOURTH BEAST !! Well of course he does. (ROME). He arises in the LATTER TIME from the Fourth Beast by way of one of the Four Generals.......Greece is where he HAS TO BE BORN. Greece is in the European Union. Nothing else fits. I have a blog on this.

Rubbish. You are mixed up. Even the ECF knew he would be a Roman but some thought that somehow he would also be Jewish/ No where does the scripture say Antichrist would make any deal. Neither does it say that he would reign for seven years, again you are deliberately adding to scripture. It is not in the scripture but may be in the Scofield notes, but there is a lot of false teaching in there.. If you take care to read Daniel seven you will see that the

• Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Not the Jews, but the saints of the most High. That is The Church, includes believing Jews and Gentiles. And not for seven years but until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Who wore out the saints of the Most High? Rome, Pagan and Papal but mostly the latter and for a much longer period.

The four horns were the generals of Alexander, they were overthrown by Rome, the fourth and last kingdom. The beast with ten horns. The little horn was the papacy who is now the ruler from Rome.
He overthrew three of the 10 horns, kings, that took over the empire. He has worn out the saints of the Most High, firstly by means of devices such as the inquisition, then in more modern days by feeding them with the false Jesuit teaching of futurism.

90% of Christians may believe in futurism. I doubt that figure as most Christians do not think of prophecy, that is why you can thrust your false teaching on them, an d anyway even if it were true, so what? Before Irving and Darby took over the Jesuit teaching of Bellarmine, Lacunza and other Jesuits, only Rome taught that.

You have been sold a pup and you are trying to get others to follow you.

Many years ago, when I was at school one of our teachers said, "Never be afraid of going against the majority, as the majority are usually wrong." And you sir are wrong.[/QUOTE]

 

[Revealing Times]

Can you show me a scripture that says that? No of course you can't because it is not there.

Yes sir, I have studied this in depth. You must learn to be suspect of all the translations my friend. Especially the Hebrew Old Testament ones, even if they get 98 percent of the words right, the 2 percent can be very worrisome, especially if they get 2-5 words wrong in a single verse or passage. And that is exactly what happened in Dan. 9:27, I have this saved on a blog of mine, when we match it up with Rev. 13 your eyes are gong to be opened, I think...And you will agree, this is exciting, and truthful. Lets look at Dan. 9:27

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

1.) Confirm = gabar 1396 (Hebrew Word) meaning to be strong, to prevail or to act insolently.

2.) Oblation = minchah 4503 (Hebrew) A tribute or an offering.

3.) Overspreading = kanaph 3671 (Hebrew) An edge, a Wing or Quarter (of a building) a pinnacle.

4.) Abominations = shiqquwts 8251 (Hebrew) Meaning, Disgusting, Filthy, Idolatrous or AN IDOL !!

5.) Desolate = shamem 8074 (Hebrew) Meaning to Stun, Grow Numb, to Stupefy, or to Devastate !!

So looking at these original Hebrew word Translations, what is this verse (Dan. 9:27) really telling us ? Does it match up with other end time events ? Lets delve into it !! Basically this is what I get from verse 9:27.

Daniel 9:27 The Anti-Christ will FORCE and Agreement (Covenant means agreement) on Israel and others, probably the Muslims. He does so Insolently, his agenda Prevails, he forces this deal. Then after 3 1/2 years he stops allowing the Oblation or Tribute, (I think unto Jesus Christ, who Israel accepts as their Messiah before the Day of the Lord as it says in Malachi 4:5-6) by Israel unto their God. Then the False Prophet places an IDOL in a Wing or a pinnacle of the TEMPLE and demands all people to worship this IDOL or else they must die. THIS STUNS/SHOCKS OR DEVASTATES Israel, they then heed Jesus' words, they Flee unto the Wilderness where they are protected by God for 1260 Days, because Elijah turned them back to their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10) before the Day of the Lord, hence they act upon his Prophetic advice and FLEE Judea !!

Daniel 9:27 shorter understanding/version........The Anti-Christ will force a Peace Deal on Israel, in the Middle of this deal he will renege on his deal, and order the False Prophet to place an Image of the Beast (IDOL of himself) in the Temple, and demand all mankind to worship this Image. This Stuns Israel, it literally devastates them.

Do further scriptures agree with this account ?

Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

IT MATCHES !!

I will answer the rest later brother, I have to go get some food for the family. God Bless.

 

[David Kent]

Yes sir, I have studied this in depth. You must learn to be suspect of all the translations my friend. Especially the Hebrew Old Testament ones, even if they get 98 percent of the words right, the 2 percent can be very worrisome, especially if they get 2-5 words wrong in a single verse or passage. And that is exactly what happened in Dan. 9:27, I have this saved on a blog of mine, when we match it up with Rev. 13 your eyes are gong to be opened, I think...And you will agree, this is exciting, and truthful. Lets look at Dan. 9:27

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

1.) Confirm = gabar 1396 (Hebrew Word) meaning to be strong, to prevail or to act insolently.
2.) Oblation = minchah 4503 (Hebrew) A tribute or an offering
3.) Overspreading = kanaph 3671 (Hebrew) An edge, a Wing or Quarter (of a building) a pinnacle. 4.) Abominations = shiqquwts 8251 (Hebrew) Meaning, Disgusting, Filthy, Idolatrous or AN IDOL !! 5.) Desolate = shamem 8074 (Hebrew) Meaning to Stun, Grown Numb, to Stupefy, or to Devastate !!

So looking at these original Hebrew word Translations, what is this verse (Dan. 9:27) really telling us ? Does it match up with other end time events ? Lets delve into it !! Basically this is what I get from verse 9:27.

Daniel 9:27 The Anti-Christ will FORCE and Agreement (Covenant means agreement) on Israel and others, probably the Muslims. He does so Insolently, his agenda Prevails, he forces this deal. Then after 3 1/2 years he stops allowing the Oblation or Tribute, (I think unto Jesus Christ, who Israel accepts as their Messiah before the Day of the Lord as it says in Malachi 4:5-6) by Israel unto their God, the False Prophet places an IDOL in a Wing or a pinnacle of the TEMPLE and demands all people to worship this IDOL or else they must die. THIS STUNS/SHOCKS OR DEVASTATES Israel, then they heed Jesus' words, they Flee unto the Wilderness where they are protected by God for 1260 Days, because Elijah turned them back to their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10) before the Day of the Lord.
Daniel 9:27 shorter understanding/version........The Anti-Christ will force a Peace Deal on Israel, in the Middle of this deal he will renege on his deal, and order the False Prophet to place an Image of the Beast (IDOL of himself) in the Temple, and demand all mankind to worship this Image. This Stuns Israel, it literally devastates them.

Do further scriptures agree with this account ?

Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

IT MATCHES !!

I will answer the rest later brother, I have to go get some food for the family. God Bless.

I knew you couldn't just bluster.
I agree that the Revelation quotes apply to the papal antichrist and his image, they Madona, 'Mary', but that has nothing to do with Daniel 9. Seventy weeks mean 70 weeks, not 69 plus one which may appear in the distant future. Many teachers in the past tell us that in the phrase "70 weeks are determined" is not wquite correct as the word 'are' is singular and the translators use that phrase as in English you cannot use "seventy weeks is" and that a better translation would be "a period of 70 weeks is." thus showing its unity. The seventy weeks is a unity.

 

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I knew you couldn't just bluster.
I agree that the Revelation quotes apply to the papal antichrist and his image, they Madona, 'Mary', but that has nothing to do with Daniel 9. Seventy weeks mean 70 weeks, not 69 plus one which may appear in the distant future. Many teachers in the past tell us that in the phrase "70 weeks are determined" is not wquite correct as the word 'are' is singular and the translators use that phrase as in English you cannot use "seventy weeks is" and that a better translation would be "a period of 70 weeks is." thus showing its unity. The seventy weeks is a unity.

The RCC nor Islam has anything to do with the Anti-Christ. Another adventure you have headed down the wrong road on.

 

[David Kent]

The RCC nor Islam has anything to do with the Anti-Christ. Another adventure you have headed down the wrong road on.

I agree with all Christians for 100's of years before 1820. You agree with the Jesuits and their children, the Darbyites who teach Jesuit doctrines. It doesn't worry me that I am out of step with those that teach such, as they are mislead.

 

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Rubbish. You are mixed up. Even the ECF knew he would be a Roman but some thought that somehow he would also be Jewish/ No where does the scripture say Antichrist would make any deal. Neither does it say that he would reign for seven years, again you are deliberately adding to scripture. It is not in the scripture but may be in the Scofield notes, but there is a lot of false teaching in there.. If you take care to read Daniel seven you will see that the

• Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Not the Jews, but the saints of the most High. That is The Church, includes believing Jews and Gentiles. And not for seven years but until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Who wore out the saints of the Most High? Rome, Pagan and Papal but mostly the latter and for a much longer period.

Not understanding the Rapture sure places you behind the 8-ball, the Church in in Heaven, the Anti-Christ wears out the Saints, Daniels people, Israel/Jews. Dan. 8:25 says he destroys MANY BY PEACE. The Red Horse (2nd Seal) says he takes PEACE FRO THE EARTH, meaning he came to power via peace. And Dan. 9:27 says in the Middle of the week that he reneges on his AGREEMENTS !! You seemingly just can't grasp these facts.

I did not say he reigns for Seven years, I stated he makes a PEACE AGREEMENT for 7 years, it might be for 50 years, but God knows there is only Seven Years left and in the MIDDLE if the final Seven Years (70th Week) this Little Horn reneges on his AGREEMENTS. So you can call it a Peace, Security, Agreement etc. etc. etc. I don't care, but he makes the DEAL and the scriptures say via PEACE HE DESTROYS MANY !!

Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (Jesus); but he shall be broken without hand.

So he DOES MAKE AN AGREEMENT......Covenant means Agreement, I ca't help it if you thing the Word Covenant means a HOLY AGREEMENT, that on you. And he reneges in the PEACE DEAL or Agreement half way through the final SEVEN YEARS of Israels 70th Week.

This is an END TIME EVENT. How can a person be wrong on every passage? The Church is in Heaven. The REMNANT of the Church is going to be Martyred (Rev. 12:17) and the Jews will be protected in the Wilderness if they heed Christ Jesus' words (1/3 do and 2/3 don't).

 

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The four horns were the generals of Alexander, they were overthrown by Rome, the fourth and last kingdom. The beast with ten horns. The little horn was the papacy who is now the ruler from Rome.
He overthrew three of the 10 horns, kings, that took over the empire. He has worn out the saints of the Most High, firstly by means of devices such as the inquisition, then in more modern days by feeding them with the false Jesuit teaching of futurism.

The Birth Place of the Anti-Christ Revealed

Isaiah says the Anti-Christ is an Assyrian.The Anti-Christ is said to come to power via the fourth beast in the last days per Daniel Chapter Seven. The Anti-Christ is also said to arise out of the Grecian empire in the last days, so how do we reconcile these different understandings ?

This is established fairly easily, Daniel did say the understandings would be bound up until the end. The Anti-Christ in Daniel chapters seven and eight is shown, if read properly, to arise out of two kingdoms at once, but how can this be ?

Daniel chapter seven is fairly straightforward, we understand this to be about the four beast systems, the fourth beast is where the little horn (Anti-Christ) will arise out of, most everyone understands the fourth beast to have been Rome, but in the last days/end times this has to be the European Union.

Now Daniel chapter eight is explained in detail by Gabriel the angel, was the he goat (Alexander the Great) conquering Persia ( the Ram ) and Gabriel interpreted this dream for Daniel.

Daniel 8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

We should note, this is speaking of the end time, it is not speaking of Antiochus who came before Jesus was even born. The word Indignation means: ( Greek Word za'am meaning Gods Fury at Sin) so at the Last End of Indignation means right before Gods Judgment of Sin/Vials or Bowls of Gods Wrath (Revelation).

20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. 21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. 22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. ( The Four Generals that stood up in Alexanders stead were Ptolemy , Seleucus , Cassander and Lysimachus. )

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

This is clearly speaking about the end times/last days when the sins have come full/ bowls of Gods wrath, a fierce king shall arise out of one of the four kingdoms that stood up in Alexander the Greats Stead, speaking dark sentences (understanding Riddles and conundrums) and he comes to power.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: (Satan Possesses him) and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, (he claims to Be God) and by peace shall destroy many{Through a Peace Treaty he deceives many} he shall also stand up against the Prince (Jesus) of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Jesus destroys the Anti-Christ his kings and their armies without hand ( with the Sword of the Spirit/Holy Spirit) by the countenance of his coming, Amen. This guy magnifies himself and says in the temple of God, I am God !!

Now, so many people say this is about Antiochus, so I always feel the need to prove that this is about the end times, when Gods wrath is come full. This is about the little horn/Anti-Christ. And he arises out of their kingdom in the last days, so in essence he arises out of one of the Four Generals kingdoms in the last days, but which one ? Well, since the Anti-Christ arises out of the fourth beast also, then this other Kingdom has to lie within the borders of the European Union. Only Cassander's kingdom of Greece is in the European Union !! The "Assyrian" arising from Greece would be very, very possible since Greece shares a border with Turkey, and many, many Turks live in Greece, so the Assyrian Anti-Christ is born in Greece, and comes to power in Greece, then in the European Union. But what does John say in Revelation about the Beast that arises out of the Sea ? By the way, he was on Patmos, a small Greek Island when he saw this vision.

Rev. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The Main body is described by John as like a leopard !!

Put it all together, the "Assyrian" Anti-Christ is born in Greece, of Turkish parents or grandparents , he comes to power in the European Union.

This is where the Anti-Christ is from.

 

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90% of Christians may believe in futurism. I doubt that figure as most Christians do not think of prophecy, that is why you can thrust your false teaching on them, an d anyway even if it were true, so what? Before Irving and Darby took over the Jesuit teaching of Bellarmine, Lacunza and other Jesuits, only Rome taught that.

You have been sold a pup and you are trying to get others to follow you.

Many years ago, when I was at school one of our teachers said, "Never be afraid of going against the majority, as the majority are usually wrong." And you sir are wrong.

You are wrong on every issue brother. You have been sold a bill of goods and Satan is still making a living at being a liar. All of these issues I discounted 20-30 years ago as falsehoods.

 

[SummaScriptura]

Calm it down guys. There is no orthodox test on what one believes about the end times. The name-calling has to stop. If someone is wrong in their eschatology, when the time comes and they need to correct it, those who love God's Son will. Casting each other to hell or bedeviled because you disagree on a peripheral area of Scripture, (and yes eschatology is peripheral), is wrong-headed.

 

[FredVB]

There are several beasts described in the Revelation in the Bible. The dragon in chapter 12 is mentioned first, and is never referred to as a beast, and is distinct as the dragon, clearly the dragon is shown to be Satan. The unique beasts of the book are then mentioned. The first beast, the great beast, coming from the sea, shown in chapter 13, is described with having seven heads and ten horns just like the dragon was described, but with ten crowns for the horns, rather than seven crowns for the heads as with the dragon. The dragon gives that beast power and authority from him, and all who are not godly in the world then will worship this one, who is shown to be mortally wounded, and yet still lives. This one makes war, persecuting all those who are yet godly believers still in this world. The next beast described, coming from the earth, is a deceiver who is leading those in the world to worship and serve that first one, the great beast, with signs. There is the image of the beast then used, but this is just an image, not one of the beasts described in this book. The beast then described in chapter 17 is with further unique descriptions, without power and authority shown with the first beast, this one, the scarlet beast, full of names of blasphemy, is not the same beast, though also described with seven heads and ten horns, yet not shown to be with crowns. Mystery Babylon is riding on this beast, carrying a fullness of abominations, and drunk with the blood of the persecuted believers.

I believe that scripture shows what many see coming with troubles that we have from our civilization, even with climate change, with humanity in terror from the raging sea, Luke 21:25-26, and that destruction should come to those involved with destructiveness to this earth, Revelation 11:18. Our civilization is in great trouble with what will come, showing its instability, and so much of it can collapse in coming troubles, this I believe is depicted in Revelation 18, for what characterizes that Mystery Babylon is characteristic of not just one city, but with such in the history of many places in civilization, some of which is ongoing. The beast ridden by that Mystery Babylon are the nations, or kingdoms, that unite to raise up what will be left to survive as civilization from everything else that perished, this unity in those end times will give the power and authority with that of Satan to this character who is depicted as that great beast, of Revelation 13. The depicted beast still is also representing the great kingdoms, empires, that were truly dominant in relevant history, which have this last unity reviving what there can still be of civilization, with being fully contrary to Yahweh God, and anything of Jesus, working to eliminate godly believers.

 

[David Kent]

Not understanding the Rapture sure places you behind the 8-ball, the Church in in Heaven, the Anti-Christ wears out the Saints, Daniels people, Israel/Jews. Dan. 8:25 says he destroys MANY BY PEACE. The Red Horse (2nd Seal) says he takes PEACE FRO THE EARTH, meaning he came to power via peace. And Dan. 9:27 says in the Middle of the week that he reneges on his AGREEMENTS !! You seemingly just can't grasp these facts.

The pre tribulation rapture is a modern teaching not known to the church the church before 1820 and you should be aware what Paul said of such things.

• 1 Timothy 5:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

I did not say he reigns for Seven years, I stated he makes a PEACE AGREEMENT for 7 years, it might be for 50 years, but God knows there is only Seven Years left and in the MIDDLE if the final Seven Years (70th Week) this Little Horn reneges on his AGREEMENTS. So you can call it a Peace, Security, Agreement etc. etc. etc. I don't care, but he makes the DEAL and the scriptures say via PEACE HE DESTROYS MANY !!


Dan 18:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (Jesus); but he shall be broken without hand.

How wrong you are. The Greek Empire has long since gone. You mix a pot of prophecies that are nothing to do with each other and add them all together and get a false doctrine. The latter time of the Greek kingdoms was not Antioch, but Egypt. The last of the Greek kings was Cleopatra. Which shows the foolishness of your teaching.

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  Daniel 8:23-25 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
  24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
  25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

And in the latter time of their kingdom, the Greek Kingdom. Who arose at the end of the Greek kingdom to stand up against the Prince of princes?

The answer does not take any of your great powers of imagination to work out. He was an ally of Cleopatra and Antony and he tried to destroy Jesus, Who is he? The bible tells you. The only one who the gospels call THE KING apart from Jesus?
It is not a trick question the answer is simple.

 

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David Kent and I have disagreed on almost every issue we have breached as a subject on here, but we have been cordial. Just disagreeing, or admitting the other person has a different opinion, thus he is wrong if I think my understanding is right, doesn't mean the other person is a nasty person with a nasty attitude. We just agree that we disagree on almost every point.....

 

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There are several beasts described in the Revelation in the Bible. The dragon in chapter 12 is mentioned first, and is never referred to as a beast, and is distinct as the dragon, clearly the dragon is shown to be Satan.

The dragon in chapter 12 is spoken of first as per Revelation but the Beast of Rev. 13 comes first the Dragon is cast out of Heaven after the Beast comes to power. Revelation is not in chronological order. Anyway, the Dragon of Rev. 12 shows him with Seven Heads and 10 Horns, the heads have crowns to show that the Dragon (Satan) gives power to the Kings of the earth thus sets up Kingdoms of this world as he pleases. (See Luke 4 where Jesus was offered all the Kingdoms of the world if he would only bow down and worship Satan, and Satan told him for all of this is given me, and I do as I will with them, then Paul stated that in 2 Corinthians 2 that Satan is the god of this world). So the Dragon is over the World Kingdoms and sets them up as he so chooses, Thus the Crowns on the Seven Heads shows the Dragon/Satan is over all World Kingdoms.

The unique beasts of the book are then mentioned. The first beast, the great beast, coming from the sea, shown in chapter 13, is described with having seven heads and ten horns just like the dragon was described, but with ten crowns for the horns, rather than seven crowns for the heads as with the dragon.The dragon gives that beast power and authority from him, and all who are not godly in the world then will worship this one, who is shown to be mortally wounded, and yet still lives. This one makes war, persecuting all those who are yet godly believers still in this world.

This Beast has 10 Crowns on his 10 Horns because he is over the 10 Kings, not over the Seven Heads. He is one of the Seven Heads. The Beast is of course a figurative Beast. Daniel showed four Beasts and a 5th Beast via the Little Horn that most people just don't seem to comprehend, then when I point out the Little Horn is called a Beast in Dan. 7:11 and cast into hell, some get it. So there were five Beasts in Daniel ch. 7 where Daniel was looking forward until the end of time. In Rev. ch. 13 Jesus is showing John these Beasts by looking from the END TIMES back through time, thus we see all of the Beasts that were over Israel.

Now a Beast via Daniel is a power that Conquers, Enslaves or Rules over Israel. Since we know the Lion is Babylon, the Bear is Persia, the Leopard is Greece, the Fierce Beast is Rome and that the Little Horn/MAN is the Last Beast/Anti-Christ then we need to find the other two Heads of Rev. chapter 13, who could they be? Who matches?

Well, Egypt and Assyria are the obvious and ONLY CHOICES, thus we have the Seven Heads of the Rev. ch. 13 Beasts. (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Greece are the FIVE that have Fallen, then we have the one that WAS at the time John wrote the book of Revelation [ROME] and lastly we have the one that is YET TO COME (Little Horn/Anti-Christ/LAST BEAST).

So the Figurative Beast is Healed when the Anti-Christ Conquers Jerusalem (for 42 Months) because of course it was dead, why was it dead? Because when Israel ceased being a Nation in circa 70-125 AD, Rome could not be a BEAST because there was no Israel to be a FIGURATIVE BEAST OVER !! God allowed them to be dispersed all around the world, God saw them as Dead Men's Bones via Ezekiel's Prophecy. God told Ezekiel he would raise up those Dead Men's Bones in the last days (1948) and thus now that He has there can be the LAST FIGURATIVE BEAST, once the Anti-Christ Conquers Jerusalem. The Mortal Wound (Figuratively speaking) will then be Healed.

The next beast described, coming from the earth, is a deceiver who is leading those in the world to worship and serve that first one, the great beast, with signs. There is the image of the beast then used, but this is just an image, not one of the beasts described in this book.

This is the False Prophet that arises out of the Land, meaning he will be a Jew that deceives, he will appear as a Lamb (two horns) but speak like a dragon (devil). In other words he will be a FALSE RABBI that is Anti-Christ in nature ad pro Humanism (Last Beast is a MAN).

The beast then described in chapter 17 is with further unique descriptions, without power and authority shown with the first beast, this one, the scarlet beast, full of names of blasphemy, is not the same beast, though also described with seven heads and ten horns, yet not shown to be with crowns. Mystery Babylon is riding on this beast, carrying a fullness of abominations, and drunk with the blood of the persecuted believers.

This Beast in Rev. 17 is the exact same Beast of Rev. 13, the only reason the 10 Horns have Crowns is to show that this is speaking of the Power of the MAN/Beast/Anti-Christ/Little Horn, in Rev. 12 the only reason the Seven Heads have Crowns is to show the one being spoken of is the Dragon/Satan, not the MAN/Beast/Anti-Christ.

In Rev. 17 the Harlot is riding the Beast, the Angel shows us what the difference in both are, not WHO is the POWER being spoken of. Thus the Angel explains the MYSTERY.

Rev. 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

There is no Mystery Babylon and never was. The vision showed exactly what John saw. The vision was only verse 3-6. The rest is the Angel explaining who the Beast and the Harlot is.

Rev. 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, (COMMA) Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

So the Angel explains who the Harlot is and who the Seven Headed Beast is IF WE LISTEN. My thread explaining what the Angel explained. BELOW: Babylon, The Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast Explained

So those four names are descriptions, MYSTERY.....Babylon the Great.....Mother of Harlots.....Abominations of the Earth.

The Harlot = All False Religion

The Seven Headed Beast = All False Governance under Satan the god of this world.

I believe that scripture shows what many see coming with troubles that we have from our civilization, even with climate change,

We will agree to disagree here, I think climate chance is a big farce, its meant to allow Gov. control over the masses. Net Nuetrality is also a farce.

with humanity in terror from the raging sea, Luke 21:25-26, and that destruction should come to those involved with destructiveness to this earth, Revelation 11:18. Our civilization is in great trouble with what will come, showing its instability, and so much of it can collapse in coming troubles, this I believe is depicted in Revelation 18, for what characterizes that Mystery Babylon is characteristic of not just one city, but with such in the history of many places in civilization, some of which is ongoing.

All of those things described in Rev. ch 18 are the PLAGUES that the Seals, Trumpets and Vials bring forth. The MYSTERY is explained, the Harlot is ALL FALSE RELIGION, and the Beast with Seven Heads is the Daniel 2 Statue/World Governance under Satan. You are correct, Babylon IS NOT ONE CITY, it is the whole World, its World Governance under Satan.

The beast ridden by that Mystery Babylon are the nations, or kingdoms, that unite to raise up what will be left to survive as civilization from everything else that perished, this unity in those end times will give the power and authority with that of Satan to this character who is depicted as that great beast, of Revelation 13. The depicted beast still is also representing the great kingdoms, empires, that were truly dominant in relevant history, which have this last unity reviving what there can still be of civilization, with being fully contrary to Yahweh God, and anything of Jesus, working to eliminate godly believers.

The 10 European Kings give their power unto the Beast, they then Conquer much of the rest of the world, Israel, the Arabs etc. etc. and they Destroy all Religions, they do away with Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. all Religions, thus the HARLOT IS JUDGED (Rev. 17:16) and the Kings in league with the Beast Destroys the Harlot. The Crowns in Rev. 13 show the Anti-Christ/BEASTS POWER. The Crowns in Rev. 12 show the Dragon is over the World Kingdoms.

The Rev. 17 depiction shows the difference between the Harlot and the Sven Headed Beast.

 

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The pre tribulation rapture is a modern teaching not known to the church the church before 1820 and you should be aware what Paul said of such things.

• 1 Timothy 5:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

You do realize that just because you make an ascertain, then place a scripture behind it, that doesn't mean that makes your ascertain correct right?

Harpazo was used by Paul 2000 years ago. The Latin Vulgate used the word Rapio/Rapiemur when they translated it. The English used the two words Caught Up instead, that ALL THREE means the same thing. So how was the Rapture invented in 1820? Of course it wasn't, it is the HAPAZO, Catching Up, Rapture.

What is the “harpazo?”

The term “rapture” is more commonly used than harpazo and is not found in the Bible. While you will not find that exact word through a word search, the meaning of the words that are written remains the same and conveys the same idea. The term “rapture” comes from the Latin verb rapiemur which means “to seize, snatch, carry away.” This is the same meaning behind the Greek word that is found in the Bible, harpazo. It is found in the following scripture, which is the “harpazo” passage.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-18
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up [G726 harpazo]together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

So while the word rapture is technically not in the Bible, the idea behind that Latin word represents the same idea of being caught up together to meet the Lord in the air as stated in scripture. I have decided to move away from using the term rapture in exchange for sticking with the original Greek word spelled out in English as “shall be caught up.”

So who taught it now brother? Was it Paul 2000 years ago or did it come about in the 1800's?

How wrong you are. The Greek Empire has long since gone. You mix a pot of prophecies that are nothing to do with each other and add them all together and get a false doctrine. The latter time of the Greek kingdoms was not Antioch, but Egypt. The last of the Greek kings was Cleopatra. Which shows the foolishness of your teaching.

You are not listening to the scriptures well my friend. Daniel 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

You aren't denying that Greece is still a country are you? They had their DOMINION/POWER taken away as far as being a world power but they yet remain, as is self evident by the nation Greece being on a map. The Anti-Christ has to ARISE OUT OF BOTH, the Fourth Beast and one of the Four Generals Kingdoms in the LAST DAYS/LATTER TIMES and only Greece fits. Greece is in the European Union. Case Closed. You are trying to mandate that there are no Greece Kingdoms left, its true they are not a SUPER POWER anymore, but they are still a Nation.

• Daniel 8:23-25 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
  24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
  25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

And in the latter time of their kingdom, the Greek Kingdom. Who arose at the end of the Greek kingdom to stand up against the Prince of princes?

The answer does not take any of your great powers of imagination to work out. He was an ally of Cleopatra and Antony and he tried to destroy Jesus, Who is he? The bible tells you. The only one who the gospels call THE KING apart from Jesus?
It is not a trick question the answer is simple.

When the TRANSGRESSORS are come full means when Gods Bowls of Wrath are come full. Jesus is the Prince of princes, so the Anti-Christ/BEAST is the one that comes against him. All of the Cleopatra and Antony inferences has zero to do with the LATTER TIME EVENTS.

Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full (END TIME EVENTS), a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences (Riddles and Conundrums), shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power (He receives his power from the Dragon SEE Rev. 13:4 BELOW): and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. (42 Months SEE Rev. 13:5)

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart (Anti-Christ/BEAST), and by peace shall destroy many (Rev. 6, Red Horse takes Peace from the earth): he shall also stand up against the Prince (Jesus Christ) of princes; but he shall be broken without hand (By the Holy Spirit).

Rev. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.