The Major Discrepancy Between Ezekiel and Johns New Jerusalem.

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"And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine." -Eze. 47:12 (KJV)

"And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. " -Rev. 22:1-2 (KJV)

God Bless

Till all are one.

Dean who is going to be in your comment?

"Till all are one"?
 
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Dean who is going to be "all are one"?

Today, there are a lot of denominations, with different dogma's.

As of now, the only dogma I share with others is a faith in Jesus Christ.

One day, we will all be one in faith and beliefs.

Until then...

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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Today, there are a lot of denominations, with different dogma's.

As of now, the only dogma I share with others is a faith in Jesus Christ.

One day, we will all be one in faith and beliefs.

Until then...

God Bless

Till all are one.
Ok only those who will be written in the Lambs book of Life will be one?

I Agree :)
 
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What hour does Revelation 11 tell you that the two witnesses rise?
the same hour as - earthquake
What does the last verse of Revelation 11 say?
earthquake and great hail

Do you see any hail mentioned in the time of the 6th seal?

No requirement to say 'earthquake' on the 6th seal, since it is describing every mountain and island being moved out of their places (Rev.6:14).

Look in Revelation 8, just a bit ahead of when the seven trumpets start in the story. What happens along with voices? earthquake
The earthquake does not happen right then on the earth. This is only showing how long the next set of plagues will last - as in till the earthquake.

The end of Revelation 11 is following the same pattern. It shows that a new set of plagues is about to begin and it will end with - great hail. John next saw Rev. 16-22.

The great earthquake of Rev.11:13 on the 7th trumpet is the same great earthquake to occur on the 7th vial of Rev.16:18. It's the same event of the 6th seal with the mountains and islands being moved out of their places.

In Rev.16:15, Jesus is warning His Church still on earth that He comes "as a thief". That is on the 6th Vial timing.

On the 7th Vial timing is the battle of Armageddon which He will fight with His angels at His coming.

Those events per the OT prophets occur on the "day of the Lord", which is the final day of this present world, which is the day Jesus comes to gather His Church and slay the wicked.
 
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"book"
What book? It is referring to the book that John ate in chapter 10.
Why? Because there was soon going to be a switch. Chapter 11 ends the part of Revelation called - the mystery of God". John though ate the little open book so he could yet tell the church more. There was going to be more prophecy given to him from this book. The reason we have chapters 16-22 is because John swallowed the book of messages that gets told to us after the mystery of God section is over.
Notice too that it only seems to have one city written about in it.
the holy city====as to the New Jerusalem
This is the holy city written about in this little open book that was eaten by John that a person can lose their access to.
We also find that in this book are plagues that can be added to a person. This means that these plagues written about in the eaten book are not the trumpets plagues. The church will still be here on the earth while those take place.
The warning is as to the plagues -written in -this book. Not plagues written in all of Revelation, speaking specifically of those that are detailed to us that were written in the little open book that John ate. The plagues of the full vials are the ones that can be added to a person.
The book that Jesus is referring to is the book of the Revelation of Jesus The Christ - the book is a book of prophecy given bu Jesus to John and Jesus told John to write these down


1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;


18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

The entire book of prophecy called this book of the Revelation
 
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What hour does Revelation 11 tell you that the two witnesses rise?
the same hour as - earthquake
What does the last verse of Revelation 11 say?
earthquake and great hail

Do you see any hail mentioned in the time of the 6th seal?
Look in Revelation 8, just a bit ahead of when the seven trumpets start in the story. What happens along with voices? earthquake
The earthquake does not happen right then on the earth. This is only showing how long the next set of plagues will last - as in till the earthquake.

The end of Revelation 11 is following the same pattern. It shows that a new set of plagues is about to begin and it will end with - great hail. John next saw Rev. 16-22.
Revelation 11:15 shows the end of this world.

"The 7th Trump Sounded"

"He Shall Reign For Ever And Ever"
 
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This part is showing that the throne area changes. The kings on the earth still have yet to be overthrown. It is an announcement made in heaven. Those in heaven hear it. The 24 elders - which sat - are losing their seats as co-rulers. That is what it is showing. There is a major change -as to angels - the elect angels will not be rulers in the coming days. Jesus Christ will return as exalted alone.
He will be seen alone as sitting on the right hand of power.

Paul told how we are now charged before certain ones -among those listed are - the elect angels.
Paul then does not list them as being over us when the Lord Jesus Christ returns.
They will cast off their crowns and lose their seats.
Angels will no longer sit as rulers. They will not judge the world as being over the kingdoms then. It will only be God and Jesus Christ that are the rulers.

Revelation 11 ends showing that a new set of plagues will soon start. This set will end with great hail.
This is not how the time of the seven trumpets ends. That time ends with an earthquake.
The two witnesses do not rise at an hour of great hail, but at the third woe time. That woe is the earthquake.

5th seal - great tribulation
6th seal - earthquake...sun black...the stars fall
Jesus Christ told that the sun shall be darkened -immediately-after the tribulation.
He also told us that the -stars -fall.
The tribes of the earth shall mourn. /6th seal-they hide in the rocks
God's wrath is only beginning. His wrath is announced to start -after the 7th trumpet sounds.
The vials full are each of them His wrath. None of them can happen until past the time of the 7th trumpet sounds.
.....great tribulation...sun black...stars fall...7th trumpet sounds...God's wrath can begin....vials full get poured out later...Armageddon....Israel returns to her land and dwells safely...Gog attacks...survivors must come to Jerusalem to worship the King - and keep the feast of tabernacles -or they will not get rain

Isaiah 66 ends showing that on the new earth what will be kept is different. The saints will keep the sabbath and the new moon as times to come to worship Him. At this time, they will also have to look at the wicked being in the lake of fire and be abhorred.
At the 7th Trump This World Ends.

Revelation 11:15

"The 7th Trump Sounded"

"He Shall Reign For Ever And Ever"
 
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The book that the warning at the end part of Revelation is about is - the little book that was eaten by John.
It tells how -these sayings - are not to be sealed.
The mystery of God section has a sealed part - the seven thunders.

"the prophecy of this book"

Revelation 10
"...take the little book...must prophesy again..."
Revelation 11:15

At the 7th Trump, this world ends, eternity begins.

"He Shall Reign For Ever And Ever"
 
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The wicked will not be saying peace -during the vials.


Of course they won't, so I agree. What should that be telling us? That the day of the Lord brings about the pouring out of the 7 vials. And apparently after the 7th trumpet has sounded.
 
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Of course they won't, so I agree. What should that be telling us? That the day of the Lord brings about the pouring out of the 7 vials. And apparently after the 7th trumpet has sounded.

That all 7 vials are then poured out is a popular notion with some Churches, but it's not what the Rev.16 events reveal. The vials parallel the seals and trumpets.

Because Jesus is still warning His Church on earth on the 6th Vial, it means the beast kingdom is still in power throughout all those previous vials.

Rev 16:15-17
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.


16 And He gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

KJV

Only... on that 7th Vial being poured out is the event of the "day of the Lord". Some brethren are wrongly being taught the "day of the Lord" is the tribulation period, that I'm also aware, but it is not.

God through His OT prophets showed that "day of the Lord" will occur very quickly upon the earth, suddenly, at an instant. In Isaiah are very graphic descriptions of it, one as if waking up suddenly from a bad dream. Apostle Paul taught this idea also in 1 Thess.5, but men's traditions have taken it over in a lot of Churches, hiding this fact of the "day of the Lord" happening very quickly. That is why our Lord Jesus and His Apostles used the analogy of it happening "as a thief in the night".
 
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